PDA

View Full Version : Rob English's Trans Am bike


Spaceman Spiff
05-19-2017, 11:14 AM
This thing is incredible: http://www.englishcycles.com/custombikes/robs-transam-race-bike/

Custom in every sens of the word!

http://www.englishcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ta1-1-207x136.jpg

false_Aest
05-19-2017, 11:24 AM
Rob is a cut above in every sense.

At least a half dozen times I've thought about fabbing something "new" only to find that Rob did it first and did it better . . . and I think that's ****ing awesome!

ORMojo
05-19-2017, 11:26 AM
That is insane! And all coming in just under 22 pounds, including bags, lights, pump, etc. Crazy.

http://www.englishcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ta1-1.jpg

ColonelJLloyd
05-19-2017, 11:27 AM
That's pretty slick.

I plan to cheer on a few racers at a spot or two on the route.

Mzilliox
05-19-2017, 11:33 AM
What a mad man, i love it!

54ny77
05-19-2017, 11:47 AM
hot damn that thing is amazing.

an english frame is on the bucket list one day.

zap
05-19-2017, 11:49 AM
Nice.........but not allowed on some paceliners paceline rides.

beeatnik
05-19-2017, 11:53 AM
English is legit.

ColonelJLloyd
05-19-2017, 12:06 PM
English is legit.

Very "modern day Rene Herse". That thing is integrated AF.

beeatnik
05-19-2017, 12:08 PM
Ah, just saw the third bottle cage and frame bag, um, connectors. Nice

kppolich
05-19-2017, 12:19 PM
Love the rear light integration on that bag and honestly, the disc break covers don't look half bad. All in all the front bag setup tied into the aero bars does it for me, but would have liked to see the front light get a mount as well! What do you think he carries in the rear bag? Mounting looks pretty light-duty. Rain Gear? Sweet rig!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4268/34372585170_4b54038a0d_o.png
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4163/34757453815_6270e26633_o.png
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4220/34372585980_f800643a7b_o.png

Tickdoc
05-19-2017, 12:32 PM
Is that bag a Louis Vuitton?

Ultra cool build and crazy lightweight.

crankles
05-19-2017, 12:37 PM
This. He is one clever, creative cat.
Rob is a cut above in every sense.

At least a half dozen times I've thought about fabbing something "new" only to find that Rob did it first and did it better . . . and I think that's ****ing awesome!

fiamme red
05-19-2017, 12:39 PM
What is the weight limit on that bag/rack set-up?

54ny77
05-19-2017, 12:44 PM
nice bottle of rioja, a quarter pound of jamon iberico, a wedge of manchego, and some cantaloupe. maybe a few paper towels.

perfection.

What is the weight limit on that bag/rack set-up?

Jad
05-19-2017, 01:51 PM
Very cool--love the pictures of the built up head tube.

Wolfman
05-19-2017, 02:39 PM
Of course, you all saw the googly eyes stuck to the seat bag. I suppose if you're gonna do that race/ride, you've got to be a bit of a character!

Tony Edwards
05-19-2017, 03:53 PM
That is sheer badass-ery.

adub
05-19-2017, 04:43 PM
I like the carbon beer cooler!

R3awak3n
05-19-2017, 04:52 PM
Rob is just on a whole other level. Just keeps pushing what can be done with steel and he has to be a little cooks which is a great thing.

Also ts pretty amazing that he builds bikes and races them, and now he is racing the trans am?


I am very lucky to have one of his bikes, coolest bike I have ever had, by far.

Flying Pigeon
05-19-2017, 05:19 PM
Also a big Rob English owner and fan.. I think that is awesome and I want one.

I'd take hydro brakes and a big Trans Am "screaming chicken" on mine. :p

Lanternrouge
05-19-2017, 05:40 PM
My only "issue" is how the rider will deal with recharging batteries during the event, especially if not bringing multiple spares.

Black Dog
05-19-2017, 06:09 PM
My only "issue" is how the rider will deal with recharging batteries during the event, especially if not bringing multiple spares.

The batteries should last the whole event. No?

ColonelJLloyd
05-19-2017, 06:28 PM
The batteries should last the whole event. No?

4300 miles. 17-30 days.

That headlight takes 6 hours to charge for 3 hours of high power beam? I guess in an event like this the additional drag of a dynamo hub really adds up. But, the life of that headlight would seem to create logistical issues.

R3awak3n
05-19-2017, 06:40 PM
4300 miles. 17-30 days.

That headlight takes 6 hours to charge for 3 hours of high power beam? I guess in an event like this the additional drag of a dynamo hub really adds up. But, the life of that headlight would seem to create logistical issues.

Well he will have to bring an external bat, a 20 000 mah might not even be enough and its heavy. I don't think the dynamo really would be a bad idea, its heavier and some drag but he won't have to bring external batteries.

guido
05-19-2017, 08:29 PM
That is one delightful solution to those very demanding set of requirements. I think Mike Hall would be smiling.

ORMojo
05-19-2017, 09:13 PM
If you read the comments on Rob's post, he graciously answers the battery charging question too many times over (for all the other readers that didn't read the previous comments and questions!).

"I will be stopping at a motel every night, so will have power for charging."

I too am on my second English bike, and they have not been exceeded by any other.

ColonelJLloyd
05-19-2017, 09:28 PM
Rob's responses regarding the battery life were not present when I read the comments earlier today.

A little research shows those with an eye on winning are using a mix of dynamo and battery powered lighting (2016 winner Wilcox employed a SP dynamo). I'm not clear on charging, but suspect they're using supplemental power supplies that they charge along with the headlight batteries themselves when and where they stop to sleep that isn't a tree at the side of the road.

Lanternrouge
05-19-2017, 11:45 PM
The batteries should last the whole event. No?
I was just thinking about the eTap batteries, though as I've now read, the rider will be stopping frequently enough at a motel to recharge everything.

Spaceman Spiff
05-19-2017, 11:58 PM
Rob's responses regarding the battery life were not present when I read the comments earlier today.

A little research shows those with an eye on winning are using a mix of dynamo and battery powered lighting (2016 winner Wilcox employed a SP dynamo). I'm not clear on charging, but suspect they're using supplemental power supplies that they charge along with the headlight batteries themselves when and where they stop to sleep that isn't a tree at the side of the road.
Here's a great write up/interview about Lael Wilcox's Trans Am ride: http://www.bikepacking.com/plog/lael-wilcox-trans-am/

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Black Dog
05-20-2017, 06:34 AM
4300 miles. 17-30 days.

That headlight takes 6 hours to charge for 3 hours of high power beam? I guess in an event like this the additional drag of a dynamo hub really adds up. But, the life of that headlight would seem to create logistical issues.

Doh! I thought you were referring to the etap. Totally missed the lighting issue. However, don't the trans am riders have mail drops along the route for food etc? However I bet he will just have a small USB charger and plug in wherever he can.

Tickdoc
05-20-2017, 06:42 AM
Doh! I thought you were referring to the etap. Totally missed the lighting issue. However, don't the trans am riders have mail drops along the route for food etc? However I bet he will just have a small USB charger and plug in wherever he can.

Solar charger seems like a viable option. I have one similar to this that hangs on back of backpack to charge devices and that would work fine, with the only real weight being the battery pack it charges. Would be easy to incorporate it into the top of that nifty rear bag.

It generates enough power to charge a phone iPad and even power a laptop after about four hours of sun.

http://solarpanels2go.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/anker-8w-solar-panel-charger-2.jpg

ColonelJLloyd
05-20-2017, 07:39 AM
However, don't the trans am riders have mail drops along the route for food etc?

It's totally unsupported so it seems everyone does things the way they see best.

Catman
05-21-2017, 11:08 AM
Solar charger seems like a viable option. I have one similar to this that hangs on back of backpack to charge devices and that would work fine, with the only real weight being the battery pack it charges. Would be easy to incorporate it into the top of that nifty rear bag.



It generates enough power to charge a phone iPad and even power a laptop after about four hours of sun.



http://solarpanels2go.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/anker-8w-solar-panel-charger-2.jpg



That looks cool. I'd bet you'll start to see this sort of thing built into bags before too long.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

gdw
05-21-2017, 12:04 PM
They're currently too big to be built into bags and be practical. Most experienced racers that plan to ride through the night in events like this and the Tour Divide use dynahub setups that allow them to recharge their auxiliary batteries and electric devices during the day.

Catman
05-21-2017, 01:15 PM
Yes, exactly... but the tech keeping better so a year or two down the road, who knows 🤷🏻*♂️...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

unterhausen
05-21-2017, 04:36 PM
so, he's really looking at it as a fast tour. Nothing wrong with that, I knew someone that did that last year.

ColonelJLloyd
06-05-2017, 11:33 AM
https://trackleaders.com/transam17i.php?name=Rob_English

guido
06-05-2017, 01:04 PM
Rob is hanging with the big boys... Very impressive so far.

unterhausen
06-05-2017, 01:23 PM
looking at pictures of racers, there are a lot of normal hubs. I am curious how they are doing that, lots of spares? I know they carry a big external battery, but that is going to die sooner or later. I don't think a dyno is enough of a drag to be worth worrying about batteries.


Rob is doing really well, I don't think he's staying at a hotel every night.

I see the person I know that rode last year is doing it again. Talk about a glutton for punishment

ColonelJLloyd
06-05-2017, 02:25 PM
I don't think a dyno is enough of a drag to be worth worrying about batteries.

If the results of these tests (http://www.cyclingabout.com/dynamo-hub-drag-lab-testing/) are worth using then it sounds like the 2016 winner could have finished in .973-.985 of ~352 hours of riding (she used a dynamo hub). That's somewhere between 5 and 10 hours of saddle time over 18 days.

moose8
06-05-2017, 04:29 PM
It is so cool that someone can build their own beautiful bike and race it across america. That's an amazing set of skills.

godukes
06-06-2017, 07:06 AM
It is so cool that someone can build their own beautiful bike and race it across america. That's an amazing set of skills.

Second.

jumphigher
06-06-2017, 08:27 AM
That is insane! And all coming in just under 22 pounds, including bags, lights, pump, etc. Crazy.

http://www.englishcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ta1-1.jpg

I agree, amazing weight.

gemship
06-06-2017, 04:22 PM
first time seeing a spoiler for the front brake calipers. Must be some aero benefit, pretty trick.

ptourkin
06-08-2017, 07:55 AM
Rob called it in Montana.
Lots of early drops this year. It's hard to predict how the body is going to respond to that kind of repeated daily effort even before the big mountains.

http://www.englishcycles.com/news/trans-am-update-2/

R3awak3n
06-08-2017, 09:20 AM
It was a smart decision. I am sure Rob will attempt it again, and probably make a new awesome bike for it

old fat man
06-08-2017, 10:07 AM
Bummer. Hope he's not stuck in Darby, MT for too long.

unterhausen
06-08-2017, 04:50 PM
that's too bad, I saw that he had turned around at one point.

I think a lot of the riders would be well-served to ride a 1200k randonnee beforehand to see what that kind of effort is like. One rider posted on FB that he was feeling really fast on his 50 mile training rides, but fell apart in the first 200 miles of TABR. This is the kind of thing that's pretty easy to try out.

Not saying this would have helped Rob, he was hammering.

ptourkin
06-09-2017, 08:28 AM
that's too bad, I saw that he had turned around at one point.

I think a lot of the riders would be well-served to ride a 1200k randonnee beforehand to see what that kind of effort is like. One rider posted on FB that he was feeling really fast on his 50 mile training rides, but fell apart in the first 200 miles of TABR. This is the kind of thing that's pretty easy to try out.

Not saying this would have helped Rob, he was hammering.

Agree about the 1200, especially for the mid to back of the pack. On a 600k you can ride into the second morning pretty loose but getting out there on day 3 etc... of a longer effort, you start to feel the cumulative effect of the struggle.

I was also surprised at some of what I read in the Facebook group this year. It's in the popular consciousness because of the movie and Mike but it seems like some of the ambitious folks who were considering it would have been better served by a shorter touring pace ride (not referring to Rob either.) Kudos for trying.

I was registered for this race in the past but when I computed how many consecutive double+ I'd have to ride, along with some safety concerns... well, it's not something you can just jump into.

crankles
06-09-2017, 10:53 AM
Second.

Third. So much respect for builders who hang it out there.

ripvanrando
06-09-2017, 02:26 PM
I am sorry to see any racer drop out but sometimes it makes sense.

I finished the race last year. Lots of challenges.

I have read about 50 mile training rides and longest ride ever of 200 miles. from racers and thought, "Oh my"

I'll say this. My Charly Miller PBP ride was a walk in the park.

I have the utmost respect for anyone rolling up to the line. For what? What do they gain.

I used batteries. No problems.