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KJMUNC
05-02-2017, 08:47 AM
The Robert Millar Z Bike classified post got me wondering....I know there are a number of folks here who own some pretty amazing pieces of cycling history in the form of legitimate team bikes from former pros. Curious to see what's out there lurking in people's collections.

Post 'em up if you have a team bike (not a replica), and know whose bike it was and any cool provenance of when it was it used. Guessing there will be a few doozies as I know of at least one of Lemond's TdF bikes is somewhere among forumites....

I'll start:

Boonen's 2010 Quick Step Merckx EMX-5 (raced at Tour of Qatar and Oman)
Cipollini's 2005 Liquigas Bianchi FG Lite (also raced at Qatar)

Edit for pics: more pics and history in production bikes section. And I ride them both all the time!

msl819
05-02-2017, 08:56 AM
Pics.... we also need to see pics! I would also be curious to know if those who have them ride them or if they are simply collector's items to you?

sales guy
05-02-2017, 09:08 AM
I'm curious how many kept them period correct or the original way they were built.

Not many people racing in my size so I have none. Well, I have one of my frames from when I raced NORBA back in the day. But that's it.

OH! And to the OP, I wasn't sure if that was Millar's frame. The ad said it was and I figured if someone in that size was interested they might ask and figure more out. It doesn't have the number plate mount but that doesn't mean much since i've seen Greg's bikes in his house and he doesn't have them on most of his bikes.

velomateo
05-02-2017, 10:54 AM
Not in my collection anymore, but certainly missed. This was Sarah Hughes' Saturn Team bike for 1997. Fillet brazed by David Tiemeyer in GT's Colorado pro shop. Mr. Tiemeyer provided me with several build sheets to help determine which riders bike I had. They didn't keep track of serial numbers and had to measure the tubes and match to build sheets.

Great riding bike. It was mostly original when I got it, so I only replaced what was worn out. Sourced the Mavic Cosmics after finding several photos of the team bike running them.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff297/velomateo/Saturn%20GT%20team%20bike/B0457CBB-560D-4A7E-8871-8EBA1A8718E5_zpskn4pjhrz.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/velomateo/media/Saturn%20GT%20team%20bike/B0457CBB-560D-4A7E-8871-8EBA1A8718E5_zpskn4pjhrz.jpg.html)

tiretrax
05-02-2017, 11:18 AM
Great thread.

I stopped by Will Friskhorn's shop in Boulder when I was passing through the town last year, and I showed him the bike. Will verified the frameset as authentic and told me no reproduction bikes were made. It was the size he and a few other used, so he was unable to say whose bike it was or how it was used (race, training, on top of a team car). Trek was still making LeMond frames, but it is titanium and not Trek made. He didn't remember what small shop made it, and the little research I conducted didn't yield any information. I bought it from someone in Utah that bought it from his LBS, which was owned by a former team mechanic that got the bike when the team disbanded at the end of the season.

It is my daily driver, and the wheels and group are not original to the bike. The team vinyl decals and trim tape are starting to peel, so I'm thinking of having the bike repainted and having them painted on.

I'll post a picture later.

tiretrax
05-02-2017, 11:27 AM
...reposted - oops

ultraman6970
05-02-2017, 12:30 PM
I do not know if can be considered a team bike but I had steve hegg's tesch frame for a couple of years. Went to a collector in california Totally should have put a quill stem in there.. damm it!

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/dec/MetroPlex.htm#top

And by this much almost got oscar freire's c50 :D Good the owner said no, but darn... he thought about it for a couple of days hehehe :D

KJMUNC
05-02-2017, 03:10 PM
I do not know if can be considered a team bike but I had steve hegg's tesch frame for a couple of years. Went to a collector in california Totally should have put a quill stem in there.. damm it!

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/dec/MetroPlex.htm#top

And by this much almost got oscar freire's c50 :D Good the owner said no, but darn... he thought about it for a couple of days hehehe :D

Heck yeah that counts! Such a cool example of a period frame. Love the 80's styling of the logos....they need to bring that back!

Pic below from the link....

donevwil
05-02-2017, 03:33 PM
I have an '88 Merckx raced by E. van Gils.

If anyone knows who he is or what team he raced for I'd love to know (bike simply has his name on the TT).

eBAUMANN
05-02-2017, 03:53 PM
Sean Yates Motorola MXL
Adri van der Poel Pinarello MAX (pegoretti build)

Both from the mid-90's

Both for sale - kinda

Andy sti
05-02-2017, 04:18 PM
Had, but recently sold on here, Cezary Zamana's Merckx Motorola frame. Bought from the the Wisconsin Motorola service course. Och and the crew would have stuff for sale all the time.

msl819
05-02-2017, 04:24 PM
The Robert Millar Z Bike classified post got me wondering....I know there are a number of folks here who own some pretty amazing pieces of cycling history in the form of legitimate team bikes from former pros. Curious to see what's out there lurking in people's collections.

Post 'em up if you have a team bike (not a replica), and know whose bike it was and any cool provenance of when it was it used. Guessing there will be a few doozies as I know of at least one of Lemond's TdF bikes is somewhere among forumites....

I'll start:

Boonen's 2010 Quick Step Merckx EMX-5 (raced at Tour of Qatar and Oman)
Cipollini's 2005 Liquigas Bianchi FG Lite (also raced at Qatar)

Edit for pics: more pics and history in production bikes section. And I ride them both all the time!

Awesome... how much smaller are those team bikes than the bikes you normally buy and ride. If Cipollini's bike is the size you would buy for yourself you have a lot more lower back flexibility than I do.

cmbicycles
05-02-2017, 04:30 PM
Had, but recently sold on here, Cezary Zamana's Merckx Motorola frame. Bought from the the Wisconsin Motorola service course. Och and the crew would have stuff for sale all the time.
Wish I had been able to buy that one when you had it listed. Maybe I'll find one of Axel's Motorola bikes floating around someday.

wallymann
05-02-2017, 05:26 PM
ridden by canuck hard-man Mark Walters in the 2003 season. since passed onto another paceliner.

here he is killin' it in the SFGP while riding my bike-to-be:
http://brown-snout.com/cycling/bikes/archive/colnago_c40-hp_navigators/mark_walters/walters0856.jpg

now he's laying down some hurtful temp on my bike-to-be:
http://brown-snout.com/cycling/bikes/archive/colnago_c40-hp_navigators/mark_walters/mw_gpb_s5b_train.jpg

here's the bike when i bought it:
http://brown-snout.com/cycling/bikes/archive/colnago_c40-hp_navigators/mark_walters/c40hp.jpg

here's the bike in its final configuration before moving on:
http://brown-snout.com/cycling/bikes/archive/colnago_c40-hp_navigators/mark_walters/walter_colnago_c40hp-navigators_600-450.jpg

sailorboy
05-02-2017, 05:40 PM
How about Victor Copeland's USPS masters team Ottrott.
Can't verify if any national or world championships were won on this actual frame, but he has the jerseys to prove it.

KJMUNC
05-02-2017, 07:22 PM
Sean Yates Motorola MXL
Adri van der Poel Pinarello MAX (pegoretti build)

Both from the mid-90's

Both for sale - kinda

These don't exist without pics :bike:

I know they do....but I wanna see them!!

msl819
05-02-2017, 08:05 PM
These don't exist without pics :bike:

I know they do....but I wanna see them!!

Preach!

jtakeda
05-02-2017, 08:08 PM
I feel like I always talk about "back when I had this bike" but here it goes again.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7281/9639990390_3919674148_c.jpg

msl819
05-02-2017, 09:05 PM
Who's was it?

KJMUNC
05-02-2017, 09:24 PM
Awesome... how much smaller are those team bikes than the bikes you normally buy and ride. If Cipollini's bike is the size you would buy for yourself you have a lot more lower back flexibility than I do.

I'm 6'3 with disproportionally long arms, so if I can find a pro slightly taller than me I can make it work. The Boonen and Cipo bikes both have TT's of ~58/58.5 so it's really the HT that makes the diff. Cipo' is just under 170, Boonen's is 175. Both had enough room for 10mm under the stem so they didn't run it "slammed". I'm pretty comfy at 185-190, so it's not too big of a stretch.

I've run the Cipo bike on 50mi+ race pace rides and it's not exactly plush, but when it comes to county line sprints it's the snappiest of the stable by far.

msl819
05-02-2017, 11:28 PM
I'm 6'3 with disproportionally long arms, so if I can find a pro slightly taller than me I can make it work. The Boonen and Cipo bikes both have TT's of ~58/58.5 so it's really the HT that makes the diff. Cipo' is just under 170, Boonen's is 175. Both had enough room for 10cm under the stem so they didn't run it "slammed". I'm pretty comfy at 185-190, so it's not too big of a stretch.

I've run the Cipo bike on 50mi+ race pace rides and it's not exactly plush, but when it comes to county line sprints it's the snappiest of the stable by far.

So that makes me wonder why, if they both wanted/needed 10cm of spacers, why not have and ride a bike that the top tube is 10cm higher and the headtube and seatube intersections set accordingly? Does having the lower TT allow the main triangle to be stiffer and beneficial in a race situation?

sales guy
05-02-2017, 11:31 PM
So that makes me wonder why, if they both wanted/needed 10cm of spacers, why not have and ride a bike that the top tube is 10cm higher and the headtube and seatube intersections set accordingly? Does having the lower TT allow the main triangle to be stiffer and beneficial in a race situation?

Yes, it does make it stiffer. But, it also allows them to make the bike bigger with the shorter headtube.

It's easier to make a small bike bigger than a big bike smaller. Something I've told many people over the years.

KJMUNC
05-03-2017, 06:48 AM
So that makes me wonder why, if they both wanted/needed 10cm of spacers, why not have and ride a bike that the top tube is 10cm higher and the headtube and seatube intersections set accordingly?

Fat fingered that while typing.....10mm not 10cm. It's not much, but there was a slight amount of room to bump the stem up.

wallymann
05-03-2017, 07:21 AM
Does having the lower TT allow the main triangle to be stiffer and beneficial in a race situation?

thats the thinking/origin of colnago's "freuler" geometry for big boys:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUP2HiVW4AAuY_S.jpg

which actually originated with freuler when he rode for atala prior. i'm sure it was done by others even before that.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e5/6f/84/e56f84df08e8d60182d8c55376adda8c.jpg

you have to supply your own porn-stache!

jet sanchez
05-03-2017, 07:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/paQ8apv.jpg


I needed a cheap Chorus group and I spotted this Merckx in Belgium for a very reasonable price so I asked a friend who lives over there to snag it for me. I intended to swap the group onto a De Rosa and sell the frame, figuring it wouldn't be too hard to find a buyer for a Merckx Team SC.

There were a few surprises that the seller didn't mention in the ad----the seller told me it was all Chorus but when I got it, the hubs are Record, which is a really nice upgrade. He didn't tell me that it is a former pro bike, ridden by a guy named Arne Degardens, which is kind of cool. I've never heard of him but the frame has his name on it on the non-drive side and the fit seems to be custom, kind of frueler-ish.

jet sanchez
05-03-2017, 08:11 AM
I also own one of Olaf Ludwig's Telekom Merckx rigs from the 1995 season

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/jetsanchEz/olaf1.jpg

I wanted to find a cheap Merckx Leader so I scoured the Belgian classifieds for months before I found it. It was listed for sale on the Belgian equivalent of Craigslist and I had a friend of mine who lives there pick it up. It was only advertised as "Eddy Merckx race bike" but I liked the colour and the size was perfect, it only came out that it was a team bike when my friend picked it up. The seller was on older man who had the bike on a trainer for the last few years, he was a friend of Ludwig's childhood coach or something.

Here is the only photo from the original ad, the Shamals were a separate purchase and I changed a few things for fit, the bike came with a 140mm stem.




http://i.imgur.com/4cFNzrD.jpg

harlond
05-03-2017, 09:55 AM
I have the Serotta Atlanta Concept that Vitaly Verevko rode to 43rd place in the
1995 Tour DuPont as a member of the Ukrainian National Team. Probably built by either Dave Kirk or Kelly Bedford.


http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=12541&page=1&pp=15

matyasdm12
05-03-2017, 10:41 AM
Great post. Keep them coming. I love this thread!

bicimechanic
05-03-2017, 10:44 AM
As I sit here at the computer I am waiting for some parts to finish this. The Lotto Domo Eddy Merckx/Litespeed Blade of Axel Merckx.

KJMUNC
05-03-2017, 11:31 AM
As I sit here at the computer I am waiting for some parts to finish this. The Lotto Domo Eddy Merckx/Litespeed Blade of Axel Merckx.

Jason - did you pick up that Blade from a guy in Los Angeles? I knew of an almost identical bike, owned by an infrequent forumite. Either way, cool stuff!

Do you still have the LA Motorola bikes pictured on your website?

eBAUMANN
05-03-2017, 12:29 PM
These don't exist without pics :bike:

I know they do....but I wanna see them!!

Yates (https://goo.gl/photos/rM7XzAQSaAFrv6oA6)
AvdP (https://goo.gl/photos/AJY1uxBUt2BWVgWp9)

;)

KJMUNC
05-03-2017, 02:06 PM
I also own one of Olaf Ludwig's Telekom Merckx rigs from the 1995 season

[img]http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/jetsanchEz/olaf1.jpg[/img

Oh man, that's a beaut! One of my "holy grail" bikes is a Telekom Pinarello.....preferably a mid-90's Prince in black/pink. I know a guy who owns Rolf Aldag's but he's not selling. Might have to just outlive him. :rolleyes:

Polyglot
05-03-2017, 03:51 PM
I own a few today and have owned a few more in the past which have been sold onwards.

I have a bike built for Damiano Cunego (confirmed by Wilier) for the 2008 year. I don't know whether it was ever used as it is immaculate. It is quite an interesting bike as the paint scheme is completely personalized for him and gives a good description him. There are little vignettes showing his year of birth (1981), his family status at the time (married one child), height (1m69), weight (59 kg), his Giro win, his world championship, his love for ice hockey.

Polyglot
05-03-2017, 04:03 PM
I also have the De Rosa Merak of Roberto Conti from the 2000 season. He was good for 18th place in Tour that year. I ride this bike quite often, I put a shorter stem on and flipped it upwards so that it fits me properly. Conti is about 2 inches taller than me. Everything is original except for the stem, the tires and the cables. I picked this up from De Rosa in Cusano, so no doubts about the provenance, besides which his name is on the chain stay.

KidWok
05-03-2017, 04:05 PM
I can't help but see Porn-Stache from Orange is the New Black.

Tai

thats the thinking/origin of colnago's "freuler" geometry for big boys:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUP2HiVW4AAuY_S.jpg

which actually originated with freuler when he rode for atala prior. i'm sure it was done by others even before that.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e5/6f/84/e56f84df08e8d60182d8c55376adda8c.jpg

you have to supply your own porn-stache!

Polyglot
05-03-2017, 04:17 PM
I also have a De Rosa-built frame that is labeled as a Chorda that was used by the Salvarani team in the late 60's.De Rosa has confirmed that it is a team frame that he built in the second half of the 60's. The son of the Direttore Sportivo of the team has confirmed this identification. I received it in Italy from a former team mechanic. It came to me as a frame with a few components that I have been slowly bring back to fully period correct. The funny thing is that on the seat tube, under the Chord decals, you can see the De Rosa decals... Salvarani was known to allow the riders choose who would build their bike for them (within reason).

KJMUNC
05-03-2017, 07:34 PM
I own a few today and have owned a few more in the past which have been sold onwards.

I have a bike built for Damiano Cunego (confirmed by Wilier) for the 2008 year. I don't know whether it was ever used as it is immaculate. It is quite an interesting bike as the paint scheme is completely personalized for him and gives a good description him. There are little vignettes showing his year of birth (1981), his family status at the time (married one child), height (1m69), weight (59 kg), his Giro win, his world championship, his love for ice hockey.

That Cunego bike is a trip. You've got some nice connections to the factory to get those guys!

msl819
05-03-2017, 07:47 PM
Yates (https://goo.gl/photos/rM7XzAQSaAFrv6oA6)
AvdP (https://goo.gl/photos/AJY1uxBUt2BWVgWp9)

;)

What size is that Yates bike?

bigbill
05-03-2017, 08:19 PM
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=180552

I've got the two GT's. The red one used to be Derek Bouchard-Hall's Team Shaklee bike. It was blue with a threaded carbon fork when I got it and Dave Cheakas made the steel fork and painted it. It rides like a race bike.

I got the Team Bike in 2011, don't know whose bike it was but it's a 58.

Both are Nobilette, at least they're both stamped N on the bb shell. Fillet brazed goodness.

martl
05-04-2017, 03:54 AM
got Thierry Maries Castorama Maxisports TT frame from 1992 in the cellar. I managed to source the tricky parts (corima manta, apoggio lombare) in the last few years, but it still isn't assembled yet.

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f/lr/sa/lrsalt60osh2/medium_IMG_1502_.jpg?0 (http://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/360405)https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/medium/MaxiSports_030.jpg?0 (http://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/118928)

sw3759
05-04-2017, 06:07 AM
still own my 2011 56cm team lotto bike.
the stickered name on the top tube was Frederik Willems,some Belgian dude.had never heard of him and I de stickered the top tube when I got it.
also own a 54cm GT team Saturn that was ridden by Mike Ward of the Wallflowers.i guess if your a cat 2 rock and roll star you can get on a pro team.

link to old thread from 2012 with same subject... https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=109250

savine
05-04-2017, 06:14 AM
i own and ride one of pippo´s merida reacto´s from 2013, only thing i´ve changed is the stem from 130 to 110. i´ve had a couple from rui costa but sold them on as frames. i´ll put photo´s up if i´ve time or check out my savinecycles instagram.

El Chaba
05-04-2017, 06:40 AM
@Polyglot.....great collection....

merckxman
05-04-2017, 07:43 AM
This was a model I saw in shops in Italy. Not saying this one wasn't owned by Cunego but these were generally available.
I own a few today and have owned a few more in the past which have been sold onwards.

I have a bike built for Damiano Cunego (confirmed by Wilier) for the 2008 year. I don't know whether it was ever used as it is immaculate. It is quite an interesting bike as the paint scheme is completely personalized for him and gives a good description him. There are little vignettes showing his year of birth (1981), his family status at the time (married one child), height (1m69), weight (59 kg), his Giro win, his world championship, his love for ice hockey.

KJMUNC
05-04-2017, 08:14 AM
got Thierry Maries Castorama Maxisports TT frame from 1992 in the cellar. I managed to source the tricky parts (corima manta, apoggio lombare) in the last few years, but it still isn't assembled yet.

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f/lr/sa/lrsalt60osh2/medium_IMG_1502_.jpg?0 (http://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/360405)https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/medium/MaxiSports_030.jpg?0 (http://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/118928)

Wow.....that thing is pretty amazing. :eek: You gotta build that thing up!!

Also didn't realize this topic had been covered before, but I guess if you hang around long enough it all comes back again. Keep 'em coming!!

Avvocato
05-04-2017, 05:02 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/7707596bfd384cd8cca79a781af2f93a.jpg

Owned until recently, Bradley Wiggins' 2012 Dogma from the Dauphine



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Avvocato
05-04-2017, 05:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/92e750bb05c68656110ceafe93b2ff54.jpg

Sean Yates' 7-Eleven Eddy Merckx


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Avvocato
05-04-2017, 05:05 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/d43f6621d71e67b90305785ddb1ae041.jpg

Greg LeMond's Team Z titanium (by Tom Kellogg). This one is for sale [emoji3]


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Avvocato
05-04-2017, 05:06 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/8a5081c40f8849ddbe0868449947d321.jpg

In the build


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msl819
05-04-2017, 05:29 PM
^^^ those are awesome!

KJMUNC
05-04-2017, 06:11 PM
:eek:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/7707596bfd384cd8cca79a781af2f93a.jpg

Owned until recently, Bradley Wiggins' 2012 Dogma from the Dauphine



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:eek::eek::eek:

Wow....much respect....THAT is a heckuva collection. Where in the world did you find those?!

Avvocato
05-04-2017, 06:23 PM
:eek:



:eek::eek::eek:



Wow....much respect....THAT is a heckuva collection. Where in the world did you find those?!



Thanks, found all over. I'm moving on from my collection (a lot of jerseys too) and will only be keeping one bike; I haven't posted it here but it's damn cool [emoji3]


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yashcha
05-04-2017, 06:36 PM
Damn. Cant find any pictures of my team Once Tcr frame. It was the superlight black version. Cant believe I sold it.

When the liberty seguros guys came to boston in 2005 I went on their charity ride. When sastre and contador saw my bike they got super excited and came over and took a good look at it. Then the mechanic came over, flipped the bike upside down and told me it was a spanish rider's spare bike for the vuelta. I can't remember the rider's name now. Then he checked the headset and said "problem".

I will dig through my photo archive to find this gem.

sales guy
05-04-2017, 06:44 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/d43f6621d71e67b90305785ddb1ae041.jpg

Greg LeMond's Team Z titanium (by Tom Kellogg). This one is for sale [emoji3]


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I can ask Greg if he'd like it back.

Matthew
05-04-2017, 06:51 PM
Man, I love this thread!! Some incredible rides here. Love sailorboy's Ottrott.

Avvocato
05-04-2017, 06:56 PM
I can ask Greg if he'd like it back.


That'd be cool, I know he has most of his race-winning bikes but to my knowledge this one doesn't have any race pedigree - I bought it off a fellow Paceliner last year (there's some threads here if you go digging), but a change in family circumstances means that I'm drastically thinning the memorabilia herd.

This was one of two made for Greg by Tom Kellogg and despatched to France in Nov '90.


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bicimechanic
05-04-2017, 07:40 PM
Can't remember where it was located. Could have been the same one, I can't imagine there are many floating around!

This frame was mine but I wound up selling it to one of my clients. He is the same one that owns the Motorola bikes on my site. (They were on loan for a open house I had) He has quite the collection! And I really didn't need any more projects!


Jason - did you pick up that Blade from a guy in Los Angeles? I knew of an almost identical bike, owned by an infrequent forumite. Either way, cool stuff!

Do you still have the LA Motorola bikes pictured on your website?

Hindmost
05-04-2017, 07:51 PM
I have had this for several years and ride it a bit.

It is Don Myrah's bike from about 1990. It appears to be assembled out of the parts bin at Campagnolo NA. I have changed a few things but it appears pretty much as-was. Didn't come with appropriate, usable wheels.

Flying Pigeon
05-04-2017, 08:05 PM
Oh man, that's a beaut! One of my "holy grail" bikes is a Telekom Pinarello.....preferably a mid-90's Prince in black/pink. I know a guy who owns Rolf Aldag's but he's not selling. Might have to just outlive him. :rolleyes:

Not exactly what you describe, but here is Andreas Kloden's bike that I had for a while. It was very long and low as a real pro bike should be.

It was so similar to my 2000 Pegoretti that it was a bit redundant and had to go.

sales guy
05-04-2017, 08:31 PM
Not exactly what you describe, but here is Andreas Kloden's bike that I had for a while. It was very long and low as a real pro bike should be.

It was so similar to my 2000 Pegoretti that it was a bit redundant and had to go.


WOW! ADA Wheels. Haven't seen those in ages. He was a funny guy with everything between him and Obermeyer.

sales guy
05-04-2017, 08:34 PM
That'd be cool, I know he has most of his race-winning bikes but to my knowledge this one doesn't have any race pedigree - I bought it off a fellow Paceliner last year (there's some threads here if you go digging), but a change in family circumstances means that I'm drastically thinning the memorabilia herd.

This was one of two made for Greg by Tom Kellogg and despatched to France in Nov '90.


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How much were you considering for it? I will ask him when he gets back-at the Giro. I will send an email over to his son and see if he can get an answer before hand.
I know he has one of these and a all blue one. As well as a bunch of others. He does have quite a few of his race bikes. And some are in original form. Some have been changed a bit. The 89 TT winner got repainted to the Z color scheme. But he still has a great collection of bikes.

KJMUNC
05-04-2017, 09:19 PM
Not exactly what you describe, but here is Andreas Kloden's bike that I had for a while. It was very long and low as a real pro bike should be.

It was so similar to my 2000 Pegoretti that it was a bit redundant and had to go.

Oh man!! I would've been all over this had I known you were selling. Did it stay in Tucson or sell somewhere else? My folks live south of there so I peruse the CL listings every now and again.

wallymann
05-04-2017, 09:32 PM
What size is that Yates bike?

iirc he rode a 59x59, 60x60, or thereabouts

Avvocato
05-04-2017, 09:35 PM
How much were you considering for it? I will ask him when he gets back-at the Giro. I will send an email over to his son and see if he can get an answer before hand.

I know he has one of these and a all blue one. As well as a bunch of others. He does have quite a few of his race bikes. And some are in original form. Some have been changed a bit. The 89 TT winner got repainted to the Z color scheme. But he still has a great collection of bikes.



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cmbicycles
05-04-2017, 09:50 PM
iirc he rode a 59x59, 60x60, or thereabouts
If a 60x60, I know someone looking for a motorola bike in roughly that size... cough, cough, ;) ;)

Polyglot
05-05-2017, 01:47 AM
This was a model I saw in shops in Italy. Not saying this one wasn't owned by Cunego but these were generally available.

Knowing this, I spoke to Wilier about the bike. The measurements correspond to Cunego's bikes. They also said that the head tube on the replica bikes was different and the replicas did not have all the sponsor decals of the real thing. They lastly said in an email to me that it IS a real one built for him. On the phone they did however state that certain frames built for Cunego were never delivered to or used by Cunego. I think that this might be one of them, so perhaps it deserves a little asterisk.

Flying Pigeon
05-05-2017, 02:37 PM
Oh man!! I would've been all over this had I known you were selling. Did it stay in Tucson or sell somewhere else? My folks live south of there so I peruse the CL listings every now and again.

My recollection is that the buyer was in France. Fit-wise it was aggressive.. it measured around 56cm but the TT was over 58cm.

KJMUNC
05-05-2017, 02:56 PM
My recollection is that the buyer was in France. Fit-wise it was aggressive.. it measured around 56cm but the TT was over 58cm.

Sounds like my Cipo bike: 56x58x16. Super long and low.

ceya
04-27-2020, 12:20 PM
I have a team Ciocc Concorde PDM spare bike.

Also a Martelly built Dutch team frameset from 1985

Local star , I have Charlie Issendorf's Atala track 1991 92.

It's been through hell and back but it the best bike I have ever ridden.

rain dogs
04-27-2020, 01:38 PM
Damn. Cant find any pictures of my team Once Tcr frame. It was the superlight black version. Cant believe I sold it.

When the liberty seguros guys came to boston in 2005 I went on their charity ride. When sastre and contador saw my bike they got super excited and came over and took a good look at it. Then the mechanic came over, flipped the bike upside down and told me it was a spanish rider's spare bike for the vuelta. I can't remember the rider's name now. Then he checked the headset and said "problem".

I will dig through my photo archive to find this gem.

Based on that description it would have to be, or likely be, Joseba Beloki's bike. I think he was the only rider to ever have the all black TCR.... with gold Campagnolo bits? Maybe not the gold components if it was a spare bike, but I'm sure it would be Beloki's.

Manolo Saiz set up that bike special for him.

martl
04-27-2020, 02:58 PM
https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/499/499456-0ytwfq4rp4hw-img_20200422_114550-large.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/499456)

Team Castorama 1992 Maxisports ridden to a Giro prologue win by Thierry Marie

martl
04-27-2020, 03:02 PM
WOW! ADA Wheels. Haven't seen those in ages. He was a funny guy with everything between him and Obermeyer.

I met Obermayer a few times, Dierl once, and Cees while co-moderating a bit at WeightWeenies. I know who's story i believe who actually was the brains behind the original Lightweight concept.

KJMUNC
04-27-2020, 03:42 PM
this wins the award for "thread dredge of the year"!

Funny, when I started this I had 2 team bikes....now I have 5 :eek:

Avvocato
04-27-2020, 04:35 PM
this wins the award for "thread dredge of the year"!

Funny, when I started this I had 2 team bikes....now I have 5 :eek:



Haha I got rid of all of mine after I got a very special one https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/d19f2acff4a1d0fd6ddbd190e6c7345a.jpg


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KJMUNC
04-27-2020, 04:42 PM
Haha I got rid of all of mine after I got a very special one https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/d19f2acff4a1d0fd6ddbd190e6c7345a.jpg


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You can't post a picture like that and then not share the rest!

Looks like one of Eddy's?

Avvocato
04-27-2020, 05:13 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/cda86b016a80b37cfe64148e7c4d002a.jpg

Yeah, 77 Team FIAT by Kessels. I got it in a trade with another collector


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KJMUNC
04-27-2020, 05:50 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/cda86b016a80b37cfe64148e7c4d002a.jpg

Yeah, 77 Team FIAT by Kessels. I got it in a trade with another collector


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Ah wow! That's from VSB correct? They have some amazing bikes. Hope you enjoy it!

alexihnen
09-11-2021, 10:57 AM
I have an Murray Serotta from ‘84-‘85. It was ridden by Andy Weaver, who earned a bronze in the TTT (obviously on a different bike) at the ‘84 Olympics. It’s the same bike model/paint that Ron Kiefel rode to victory at Perugia during the ‘85 Giro d’Italia. I lived and rode in Perugia for a year in the early 2000s, so it’s a nice piece of history. The frame was restored by Serotta.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/aa8991a7974650a01a86bffbff827a4b.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/ef4d4d91499070d35c6c16001046e438.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/d7041bb69457a6656b5e1091b23676fb.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/0ae4c11513a59c76b3326cb9bef37f13.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/e872a80e54c80f562b90d8036de48147.jpg

jamesdak
09-11-2021, 12:23 PM
Pretty sweet, for a "Murray"! ;)

jamesdak
09-11-2021, 12:50 PM
I don't know if this really counts as a team bike since I guess during the time they were more of a club.

Here's the story from the original ad, verified by me after purchase by the original owner and a couple of the other guys via facebook.

"Reynolds 853,55 c-c x 56 tt,110 stem,45mm bars, very similar to the Zurich model of same year,paint work by the Trek factory, dura ace 7700 9 speed,7800 crank (not shown),Mavic front hub,shimano 600 rear,dt spokes,AERO tubular Mavic mach 2 cd rims,will need tires as the Continentals(not pictured) have been in storage.will ship bikeflights for $80.,hard case available, slightly more for the West coast.trade for trek ex,fuel,giant reign,trance.following is a quote from the second owner-I am the third owner ; "The lemond was painted in the Merckx orange for a team called the poodle and grouse society and was established exclusively with Greg lemond and a few others at trek. This frame and color scheme was all custom. The official name was the Gentlemen’s Poodle & Grouse Society. It was a exclusive band of former racers and people who knew Greg personally. The connections go something like this.

Tom Schuler was an Olympic cyclist on 1980 team and one of the original members of Team 7-Eleven. He went on to start and manage Team Saturn, Volvo-Cannondale Mountain bike team, etc. He is close friends with Greg Lemond. Lemond supplied Team Saturn their race bikes for most of Saturn's existence. In fact I have a full Titanium Lemond Frame from the 2000 team that I ride in California.


Saturn was run in southeastern Wisconsin by a company called Team Sports Inc. I have close personal friends from Team Sports so I’ve had the good fortune of getting to know many of the good souls of cycling from this time. Tim Swift was a pro on Saturn Cycling and a friend of mine - and whose bike this was (I bought it from him-I don’t think he rode it much in the year he had it). When he left cycling, he lived in the Milwaukee area and along with a few of my other friends started a small “club” of fast friends one of whom is head of marketing at Trek. Over the years, the ‘club’ has morphed and and changed and in part lives on today in the Hollander Benelux Racing (HBR) team of which I am a member and race director www.hollandercycling.com. if you look at the roster you will see a couple ex-pros, like Tommy Matush, Jeff Bradley (other 7-eleven members).

If you google Gentlemen s Poodle Grouse Society you will see the team name in some wisconsin events run by Team Sports inc - many of whom are current team members of HBR. This bike was built and painted by Lemond (Trek) in the late 90’s for the Gentlemen's Poodle & Grouse Society and a handful were made. I have one of them. I have debated giving it up because I don’t need the money but it is just sitting around in my basement. It deserves to be ridden and enjoyed." end of quote.

How I"ve got it set up and have been riding it.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171839523.jpg

Picture one of the guys sent me of one of the bikes, Greg, and the Team. My bike is the one that belonged to the guy 4 over from Greg.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/167470373.jpg

Then another picture of Greg riding with the guys on their bikes. The guy in long blue sleeves is Tim and my bike is the one under him. This picture is in the 1999 Lemond Catalog I have. Turns out the catalogs at the Vintage Trek site don't have all the pages scanned.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/168437148.jpg

Then there's this pickup from last week that the owner said was a team bike. For sure it's not in the catalogs but does appear to be a factory quality paint job. The only other one of these I've found searching is a youtube video of one for sale. My research did find a Paramount Racing Team associated with the Orange County Wheelman in 2006 and Cannondale was listed as a sponsor. I emailed the current OCW president about this but have not heard back.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171936634.jpg

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171931984.jpg

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171931970.jpg

Then there was the mystery "Ribble" bike. Brought it home looking like this. Crazy cool paint but the great frame and number holder is what caught my eye. The Ribble were just cheap decals on top of the paint.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/168443381.jpg

Folks on the Steel is Real page identified it for me as a Martelly bike. I contacted them and Eddy confirmed making it in 1985 in SL and that it would have been a team bike. Wasn't sure for whom nor if that was how it wound up painted or if later.

Had and enjoyed it for several years but it's one I moved on this year as I downsized he collection. Crazy good and fast bike though for as old as it was.

This is how it looked when I sold it and how I was riding it.

https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171216090.jpg


So there's my three "maybe" team bikes. LOL!

m_sasso
09-12-2021, 01:25 AM
Picked this up the other day, appears to be a 2018 Jeremy Powers spare, was sold on eBay by Pro Tested Gear along with Ellen Nobels spares.

Will try to confirm once it arrives.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MSwAAOSwhLNhOO26/s-l1600.jpg

Tandem Rider
09-12-2021, 01:31 AM
I have an Murray Serotta from ‘84-‘85. It was ridden by Andy Weaver, who earned a bronze in the TTT (obviously on a different bike) at the ‘84 Olympics. It’s the same bike model/paint that Ron Kiefel rode to victory at Perugia during the ‘85 Giro d’Italia. I lived and rode in Perugia for a year in the early 2000s, so it’s a nice piece of history. The frame was restored by Serotta.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/aa8991a7974650a01a86bffbff827a4b.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/ef4d4d91499070d35c6c16001046e438.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/d7041bb69457a6656b5e1091b23676fb.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/0ae4c11513a59c76b3326cb9bef37f13.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/e872a80e54c80f562b90d8036de48147.jpg

Pretty sure I was in a few races with this bike, Andy was a really strong dude. Enjoy it!

martl
09-12-2021, 05:54 PM
Guess this qualifies. Thierry Maries TT rig from 1992. He won a few prologues on it as far as I know. Got it as a frame set and have been collecting parts to restore it to original condition.



https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/499/499451-hp8hy7e2bhwa-img_20200421_210041-original.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/499451)
https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/499/499456-0ytwfq4rp4hw-img_20200422_114550-original.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/499456)

robt57
09-12-2021, 07:43 PM
That thing is off the charts!. I don't know which is cooler, the carbon custom bars or the aero fart bucket. ;)


Guess this qualifies. Thierry Maries TT rig from 1992. He won a few prologues on it as far as I know. Got it as a frame set and have been collecting parts to restore it to original condition.



https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/499/499451-hp8hy7e2bhwa-img_20200421_210041-original.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/499451)
https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/499/499456-0ytwfq4rp4hw-img_20200422_114550-original.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/499456)

martl
09-13-2021, 05:55 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/cda86b016a80b37cfe64148e7c4d002a.jpg

Yeah, 77 Team FIAT by Kessels. I got it in a trade with another collector


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Sweet :) I got a team Fiat Kessels Merckx (Replica, Not a team bike as far as I know) mine is the light purple color that also seems to have been used (?)

Do you have more pictures?

Also I would be interested if anyone would have a color code for that silver...

Kentf14
09-15-2021, 12:42 PM
Norm Alvis's Mercks 7-Eleven.
One posed shot and one to show that I actually take it out every now and then. :rolleyes:

JedB
09-15-2021, 03:04 PM
https://pbase.com/jhuddle/image/171216090.jpg


This paint very much reminds me of the Klein paint jobs on their Quantum, Quantum II bikes.

dicki
09-16-2021, 04:29 AM
my ex Mario Cipollini Cannondale, a track / time trial frame from around 2000 with after market forks not sure how far it goes to being a team bike, hopefully it qualifies !


http://community.vintagecannondale.com/attachments/cipo_frame_1-jpg.1626/

http://community.vintagecannondale.com/attachments/cipo_frame_2-jpg.1627/

C40_guy
09-16-2021, 04:50 AM
I bought this Colnago off eBay about ten years years ago. When I purchased the bike it had a straight mtb style threadless fork (no formal crown). I was able to find a Colnago carbon cyclocross fork. The original parts group was Shimano...none of the parts, as pictured, were original to the build.

Built in '95 or '96, with a "Master" label on the rear brake hanger, so I call it a Master CX.

There is no serial number on the bike. As a result, the Colnago factory contact has been unable to identify year or provide further information, and while I've done a lot of searching, I have not been able to find any history for this particular frame.

At one point, I thought Lucas Bramati had ridden it...he rode similar yellow 'cross and mountain bikes, but his were all lugless, and he did not remember this bike.

Colnago has built a handful of steel 'cross bikes for professional racers over the years, starting in the mid '70s. I *assume* therefore, that this bike was built for a pro racer...just would like to know who!

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697951201