HED Tub C2 Spoke Count...

[Cloozoe]

Need to build, want to walk the line between light and overkill; if I were to err, it would be on the side of overkill - I'm not a weight fetishist.

175-180 fighting weight; 190 when I let myself go to seed. Been a long winter; currently seedy.

Typical so-so-to-crappy NJ roads.

Probably some mix of DT spokes.

Thinking 28r/24f? but glad to have any recommendations. Thanks.

[ergott]

24/28 sounds fine.

[R3awak3n]

I agree, that sounds more than fine.

[oldpotatoe]

Need to build, want to walk the line between light and overkill; if I were to err, it would be on the side of overkill - I'm not a weight fetishist.

175-180 fighting weight; 190 when I let myself go to seed. Been a long winter; currently seedy.

Typical so-so-to-crappy NJ roads.

Probably some mix of DT spokes.

Thinking 28r/24f? but glad to have any recommendations. Thanks.

Remember 4 spokes weigh about an ounce. Going from 24 to 28 isn't overkill. 190? 28/32 or 32/32. Lighter? 28/28, 3 cross rear, 2cross front.

[Cloozoe]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate the expert input.

[carpediemracing]

FYI I've ridden the Ardennes/Bastogne clinchers in 18/24 for a while, ranging in weight from 158 (2010) to over 180 (2012). Although I stopped riding outdoors for the most part since 2015, I never had problems with the rims. I think they're overkill for me and my riding style.

The rims are very strong so spoke count for your weight (and mine) is less a factor). If you were 215-225 lbs (I was, once), maybe more an issue, but even at 200-210 lbs I rode whatever the spoke count for Eurus (18/21?) with no problems.

I rode 16/20 Reynolds DV46 wheels as well. Did a race on a 15 spoke front (broke spoke about 30 min into a 90 min race), did a 2+ hour ride on a 19 spoke rear (broke spoke rolling out of parking lot). Of the 4 wheels I had I only broke 2 spokes over the 5 years (tubulars) or 3 years (clinchers) I used them, and I got the clinchers used. Weight was typically 185-190 summer, 200-210 lbs winter, and I trained outside all the time on the clinchers. I think those wheels were about right for my heavier weight.

23c tires in all instances. Wider tire would make any of those wheels bombproof under me.

*edit the Reynolds are still under other riders - the clinchers are under a teammate (similar weight, 170-190), the tubulars I lent to a (bigger) teammate for about 6 years, got them back in 2016.

[Cloozoe]

Thanks, CDR.

For what it's worth, I may just do 32/32 for the simple reason that I started pricing hubs and I can get campy record for well under half the price of the likes of WI, Tune, etc, and they only come in 32 AFAIK. Not sure that $500 give or take is in the offing for a hub set when I could get the campy set for less than $200.

I'm leaning toward living with the extra 3 oz (thanks for the perspective, oldpotatoe) and just bomb along on the resultant bullet-proof wheels...or is that bullet along on the bomb-proof wheels?

Anyway, thanks again for the good input from all.

[ergott]

You get nice skewers with those hubs too. If you don't mind the weight (probably shouldn't) then go for it.

[oldpotatoe]

Thanks, CDR.

For what it's worth, I may just do 32/32 for the simple reason that I started pricing hubs and I can get campy record for well under half the price of the likes of WI, Tune, etc, and they only come in 32 AFAIK. Not sure that $500 give or take is in the offing for a hub set when I could get the campy set for less than $200.

I'm leaning toward living with the extra 3 oz (thanks for the perspective, oldpotatoe) and just bomb along on the resultant bullet-proof wheels...or is that bullet along on the bomb-proof wheels?

Anyway, thanks again for the good input from all.


Record with QRs for less than $200? New? Where please, that's $25-$30 less than wholesale.

[pdmtong]

Thanks, CDR.

For what it's worth, I may just do 32/32 for the simple reason that I started pricing hubs and I can get campy record for well under half the price of the likes of WI, Tune, etc, and they only come in 32 AFAIK. Not sure that $500 give or take is in the offing for a hub set when I could get the campy set for less than $200.

I'm leaning toward living with the extra 3 oz (thanks for the perspective, oldpotatoe) and just bomb along on the resultant bullet-proof wheels...or is that bullet along on the bomb-proof wheels?

Anyway, thanks again for the good input from all.

I am 170#s and had the choice of 28/28 DTS 240/C2 or 24/28.

While I think the 24/28 look better, and could easily ride them at my weight, I considered the usage and chose 28/28 to get the extra front end strength. if you aren't hung up on weight, the extra spokes give you more impact cushion