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bthornt
03-05-2017, 05:02 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ukad-reveals-freeman-received-delivery-of-testosterone-in-2011/
ojingoh
03-05-2017, 06:10 PM
I buy it, why would he lie???
bthornt
03-05-2017, 06:30 PM
To avoid being perceived as a doctor who facilitated doping in cycling?
SlowPokePete
03-05-2017, 06:38 PM
Obviously a coincidence.

SPP
CunegoFan
03-05-2017, 07:15 PM
Who here among us has not had a pharmaceutical company accidentally deliver a big box of PEDs only to have the mistake discovered by an underling who opened a box he was not supposed to open? It happens every day.
Cicli
03-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Who here among us has not had a pharmaceutical company accidentally deliver a big box of PEDs only to have the mistake discovered by an underling who opened a box he was not supposed to open? It happens every day.

Yep, happens all the time at my house. I order viagra, end up with exlax. Always a disapointment.
ultraman6970
03-05-2017, 07:28 PM
How a lab can send viagra to a sports doctor by mistake? thats debatable I think, right? :)
Burnette
03-05-2017, 10:34 PM
The more things, aw heck, ain't nothing changed. The funny part for me is that as soon as one golden calf gets stripped, we promptly raise another one in it's place. Like all this didn't happen before Lance and that it stopped after, who? Floyd? Contador? Evans? Wiggins? Froome?

Just to confirm that old tricks die hard, an AG2R rider, Romain Bardet, was caught and disqualified for holding onto the team car after the crash for a tow back to the group, a'la Vincenzo Nibali:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bardet-i-made-a-mistake/

Speaking of Nibali, what a great video of him getting caught that will live in infamy:
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E4vRtC7IcY
tylercheung
03-05-2017, 11:26 PM
this belies my ignorance but are there more local/amateur races than the TdF and pro-tour that have less of a pressure to taint/dope?
oldpotatoe
03-06-2017, 05:52 AM
How a lab can send viagra to a sports doctor by mistake? thats debatable I think, right? :)

Some racers have actually used Viagra as a PED, they thought..makes for a funny awards ceremony tho..:p
ultraman6970
03-06-2017, 10:47 AM
LOL... it is usefull at the time to pick up a super big trophy, you will have something to hold it from under hehehe

This reminds me and it is a true story. back in LA olympics... 84? 86?? cant remember, one of the brazillian riders for the gran fondo started with aches and pain in the lower abdomen, nobody knew what was wrong with the dude. The doc of my country delegation asked him if he took some hormones or something, well the dude took progesterone and a lot of it because he heard was going to make him go faster :D
tuscanyswe
03-06-2017, 10:52 AM
LOL... it is usefull at the time to pick up a super big trophy, you will have something to hold it from under hehehe

This reminds me and it is a true story. back in LA olympics... 84? 86?? cant remember, one of the brazillian riders for the gran fondo started with aches and pain in the lower abdomen, nobody knew what was wrong with the dude. The doc of my country delegation asked him if he took some hormones or something, well the dude took progesterone and a lot of it because he heard was going to make him go faster :D

That may not be as strange as it sounds.

Progesterone can be converted both to estrogen and testosteron in a man so potentially one could have a positive effect from increased T and or E for a while.

Progesterone is seen as a female hormone because its required and increased during pregnancy. But if I'm not wrong (dont have time to google) a normal man would produce more progesterone than a non pregnant woman on average or at least very close. Believe its produced in the testies.
MattTuck
03-06-2017, 10:54 AM
Can't wait for some B samples to be retested, to find testosterone... will be interesting to hear how they 'accidentally' put the testosterone patches on the riders' nuts.
tuscanyswe
03-06-2017, 10:57 AM
Can't wait for some B samples to be retested, to find testosterone... will be interesting to hear how they 'accidentally' put the testosterone patches on the riders' nuts.

They put T patches on the nuts? :) I would think that would increase the DHT conversion rapidly and not advised.
Cicli
03-06-2017, 10:58 AM
Can't wait for some B samples to be retested, to find testosterone... will be interesting to hear how they 'accidentally' put the testosterone patches on the riders' nuts.

It can happen. :eek:
MattTuck
03-06-2017, 11:02 AM
They put T patches on the nuts? :) I would think that would increase the DHT conversion rapidly and not advised.

My comment was in fun. Isn't that the joke, that Floyd Landis used a testosterone patch on his nuts during his daily massage at the TDF? I have no idea if that is true, I just think it is funny, so I'll continue to spread it.
tuscanyswe
03-06-2017, 11:04 AM
My comment was in fun. Isn't that the joke, that Floyd Landis used a testosterone patch on his nuts during his daily massage at the TDF? I have no idea if that is true, I just think it is funny, so I'll continue to spread it.

Ah it is fun and i was just asking. Carry on .)