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smontanaro
02-26-2017, 08:58 PM
Mercedes has a commercial showing on the Oscars broadcast for their GLC Coupe. It clearly has four doors. Doesn't that make it a sedan?

Vientomas
02-26-2017, 09:04 PM
Mercedes has a commercial showing on the Oscars broadcast for their GLC Coupe. It clearly has four doors. Doesn't that make it a sedan?

Are the Oscars the Academy Awards? :)

eddief
02-26-2017, 09:31 PM
I know I have mentioned how negative this place can be so I won't say anything negative about the looks of this car:

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1104725_2017-mercedes-benz-glc-300-4matic-coupe-first-drive-review

pdmtong
02-26-2017, 09:32 PM
What it makes is Bob Dylan clearly moving into the make a buck who cares twilight

christian
02-26-2017, 11:03 PM
Why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (A7, CLS, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door SUVs with same - X6, GLC - are just ugly embarrassments all around.

flydhest
02-27-2017, 09:11 AM
why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.



Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (a7, cls, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door suvs with same - x6, glc - are just ugly embarrassments all around.



+1

GScot
02-27-2017, 09:23 AM
If it has four doors it is not a coupe. No matter what the marketing department says. I have ridden in the backseat of an A7 and it was roomy and comfortable back there but I've also ridden in the back seat of a Mercedes CLA and at 5'8" I had to lean inward to keep my head off the roof.

ERK55
02-27-2017, 09:59 AM
Why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (A7, CLS, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door SUVs with same - X6, GLC - are just ugly embarrassments all around.

Christian strikes again!
As I guy I knew used to say, "I hate to have to tell the truth, but..."

Ken Robb
02-27-2017, 10:31 AM
M-B, BMW, VW and maybe others have introduced "coupes" with 4 doors. The idea is to have 4 door convenience with the sporty appearance of a coupe. The result, as others have said, is compromised headroom that makes the back seat unusable for many "normal-sized" people.

I suppose a couple with one or two small kids might be able to use the back seat for the kids and enjoy the sporty looks.

tiretrax
02-27-2017, 03:45 PM
Why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (A7, CLS, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door SUVs with same - X6, GLC - are just ugly embarrassments all around.

I think you just got hired by Car and Driver.

Louis
02-27-2017, 03:52 PM
I thought this was a sedan chair. Now I'm all confused.

Note: it has only one door.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KhdQ0-bfC-8/UmLU0qiNEsI/AAAAAAAAEHY/aGW9mEbwrds/s1600/sedan-chair.jpg

rnhood
02-27-2017, 04:03 PM
Why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (A7, CLS, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door SUVs with same - X6, GLC - are just ugly embarrassments all around.

Very true, but fashion sells.

rounder
02-27-2017, 04:03 PM
I thought this was a sedan chair. Now I'm all confused.

Note: it has only one door.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KhdQ0-bfC-8/UmLU0qiNEsI/AAAAAAAAEHY/aGW9mEbwrds/s1600/sedan-chair.jpg

Monoporte??

Mark McM
02-27-2017, 04:27 PM
From the Wikipedia article for Coupe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9):

History

The term dates to the French language verb couper, translating as cut, referring to the fact that the body is separated by a cut-off wheel, or "cut in half".[6] The coupé was developed from the berline by removing the rear-facing front passenger seats and shortening the passenger enclosure by a corresponding amount.[4][7] The resulting shortened berline was called halbberline in Germany and berlingot or berline coupé in France. The term "berline coupé" was later shortened to "coupé".[7] Normally, a coupé had a fixed glass window in the front of the passenger compartment.[8] The coupé was considered to be an ideal vehicle for women to use to go shopping or to make social visits.[9]

The earliest coupé automobiles had the same form as the coupé carriage, with the driver in the open at the front and an enclosure behind him for two passengers on one bench seat.[10][11] By the 1910s the term had evolved to denote an owner-driven car with the driver and one or two passengers in an enclosure with a single bench seat.[12][13] The coupé de ville, or coupé chauffeur, was an exception, retaining the open driver's section at front.[14]

Definitions and descriptions[edit]

The International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defines a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[18]


Current usage

Today coupé has become more of a marketing term for automotive manufacturers, than a fact of the vehicle's design and technical makeup.[32] The term has been ascribed to vehicles with two, three, or four doors, for their perceived luxury or sporting appeal. This is because coupés in general are seen as more streamlined and sportier overall lines than those of comparable four-door sedans.[33] Hence a coupé would be marketed as a sportier vehicle than a two-door sedan.

Although technically a sedan, the Mercedes-Benz CLS is marketed as a sportier "coupé" alternative to the Mercedes-Benz E-Class sedan

witcombusa
02-27-2017, 05:30 PM
Doublespeak...:crap:

OtayBW
02-27-2017, 06:03 PM
Doublespeak...:crap:
That would be a coupe! :banana:

GonaSovereign
02-27-2017, 06:34 PM
Why does a chicken coop have two doors? Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

Four door cars with sloping rear rooflines (A7, CLS, 6-series sedans) are just sedans with crappy rear headroom. Four door SUVs with same - X6, GLC - are just ugly embarrassments all around.

This is the truth. Designed a fastback SUV? You need a time out.

Louis
02-27-2017, 06:45 PM
This is the truth. Designed a fastback SUV? You need a time out.

Does the Aztec count as an SUV, or is it sui generis? ;)

https://www.cstatic-images.com/car-pictures/xl/CAB20POS011A0101.jpg

ceolwulf
02-27-2017, 07:22 PM
Does the Aztec count as an SUV, or is it sui generis? ;)

https://www.cstatic-images.com/car-pictures/xl/CAB20POS011A0101.jpg

Thought that was a BMW X6 at first glance

Louis
02-27-2017, 07:24 PM
Thought that was a BMW X6 at first glance

You're saying that the Aztec was ahead of it's time? ;)

Neither was / is as hideous as the i3

http://www.bmw.com.au/content/dam/bmw/common/all-models/i-series/i3/2013/at-a-glance/i3-slider01-ataglance.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/cq5dam.resized.img.585.low.time1447950998802.jpg

rounder
02-27-2017, 08:32 PM
Does the Aztec count as an SUV, or is it sui generis? ;)

https://www.cstatic-images.com/car-pictures/xl/CAB20POS011A0101.jpg

It looks like it might be a je ne sais quoi. Hard to tell.

choke
02-28-2017, 05:01 PM
Of course it's a coupe....and this is a bicycle.