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Jcgill
02-26-2017, 04:49 PM
Hello everyone,

Looking into getting some carbon clinchers for my Moots Vamoots CR with Ultegra 6800/Da9000 mixed group.

The moots is currently running an Ultegra 6800 wheelset and it is the nicest wheelset i have owned since i got my first road bike in 2009. (My trek has a bontrager set and my Caad10 has mavic aksiums.)

I live in the Chicagoland area so the wheels would mostly see flats and occasionally rolling hills, no steep climbs or descending.

Looking to spend around 1,000 to 1,500 for new wheels.

So far for consideration are:

Competitive cyclist Mercury M5~900ish
Psimet (local wheels similar to boyd) ~1100 but could upgrade to white industries hubs for a bit more
Reynolds? Strike/assault and other models?
Campy bora50 ~ 1700 and would need a shimano freehub
Are there any other wheels in the price range that i am missing? What do you guys feel would be the bust buy???

Cicli
02-26-2017, 05:03 PM
I saw OldPotatoe had some carbon wheels recently.

Probably the way to go.

macaroon
02-26-2017, 05:07 PM
890 USD with DT240 hubs and bladed spokes. https://www.lightbicycle.com/U-shape-55mm-depth-Hand-built-700C-carbon-25mm-wide-clincher-road-bicycle-wheels-for-tubeless-compatible.html

rePhil
02-26-2017, 05:15 PM
I was carbon curious too. I found a pair of Reynolds Assaults for a decent price on eBay. I was a bit apprehensive buying used, but so far they have been good.They use KT hubs. The hubs are smooth. Nice wheel set without breaking the bank.
In this case it was money well spent.

godukes
02-26-2017, 05:32 PM
ProBike has some good prices on Bora (which you can get in Shimano).

Bora One and done.

oldpotatoe
02-26-2017, 05:44 PM
I saw OldPotatoe had some carbon wheels recently.

Probably the way to go.

No name but 4 new cart bearings, rear hub and BHS new F125 front hub laced to 38 or 50mm carbon clincher rims..20/Radial F and 24 2 cross rear.

$585 plus shipping.

Rims from these guys

http://www.offthefrontracingsystems.com/

SoCalSteve
02-26-2017, 06:12 PM
890 USD with DT240 hubs and bladed spokes. https://www.lightbicycle.com/U-shape-55mm-depth-Hand-built-700C-carbon-25mm-wide-clincher-road-bicycle-wheels-for-tubeless-compatible.html

This would be an amazing deal if they weren't in China! I'd be afraid of damage in shipping, customs and the amount of time it would take to get here.

The Reynolds stuff is all good. Or, find a lightly used set of ENVE's here or on eBay.

Good luck!

rePhil
02-26-2017, 06:34 PM
ProBikes prices look good. Have you ordered from them? How long did it take to get them?


ProBike has some good prices on Bora (which you can get in Shimano).

Bora One and done.

Tony
02-26-2017, 07:03 PM
890 USD with DT240 hubs and bladed spokes. https://www.lightbicycle.com/U-shape-55mm-depth-Hand-built-700C-carbon-25mm-wide-clincher-road-bicycle-wheels-for-tubeless-compatible.html

This goes up price wise, $900 if you choose DT240 hubs.

colker
02-26-2017, 07:10 PM
Carbon and tubulars!

Clean39T
02-26-2017, 07:23 PM
Thinking about this too. Nashbar has 3T Mercurio tubs for ~$750 and their return policy is excellent. They also have DA C50 tubs that get down to ~$1150 depending on the sale du jour..


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steveandbarb1
02-26-2017, 07:30 PM
What's the line on Dura Ace prebuilt wheels, don't see them mentioned much here.

Bentley
02-26-2017, 07:35 PM
What's the line on Dura Ace prebuilt wheels, don't see them mentioned much here.

I have them and love them. I have the 7850's which also work tubeless. You can usually get them for 750ish.

Ray

sjbraun
02-26-2017, 07:38 PM
Boyd Cycling, the 28mm carbon c (http://www.boydcycling.com/carbon-clinchers/)linchers.
I'm REALLY happy with mine.

colker
02-26-2017, 07:56 PM
.

Bora One and done.

Lotta money..

Jcgill
02-26-2017, 07:59 PM
No name but 4 new cart bearings, rear hub and BHS new F125 front hub laced to 38 or 50mm carbon clincher rims..20/Radial F and 24 2 cross rear.

$585 plus shipping.

Rims from these guys

http://www.offthefrontracingsystems.com/

That sounds nice, any ability to upgrade the hubs to dt240 or t11's or anything brand name for a higher price?

That would be exactly what i am looking for.....nice hubs that can be re-used if the rim meets its demise laced to some decent 50mm carbon wheels.

ldamelio
02-26-2017, 08:03 PM
Another vote for Boyd in whatever profile you prefer.

galgal
02-26-2017, 08:04 PM
ProBikes prices look good. Have you ordered from them? How long did it take to get them?

Have ordered 2 wheelsets from Probikekit over the last 6 months. As you say, price was good. Tracked shipping, promised 2 week delivery date and received them within that period. Wheelsets were as ordered with no problems and all included documentation. Small sample obviously but nothing to complain about.

Neves
02-26-2017, 08:11 PM
This would be an amazing deal if they weren't in China! I'd be afraid of damage in shipping, customs and the amount of time it would take to get here.

The Reynolds stuff is all good. Or, find a lightly used set of ENVE's here or on eBay.

Good luck!

Light-Bicycle has a pretty solid reputation. They also just opened/partnered with someone here in the states. I just ordered some rims from Nextie and it went pretty smooth, even though I ordered them during their new years.

kramnnim
02-26-2017, 08:14 PM
Should be able to find lightly used Enve in your price range.

markoprotic
02-26-2017, 08:29 PM
I would get REYNOLDS ASSAULT. I had them for a season. They feel good, Japanese carbon made here in USA per Reynolds. I ran tubes 1/2 season, then I set them tubeless with Bontrager R3 TLR tires 25mm. The ride quality was excellent. I have only good things to say about them, solid wheel. I strongly recommend them.
All the best.

Marko

Duende
02-26-2017, 08:42 PM
Bora one 50 (I have the 35's here in SF). I doubt you'll find as nice a hub with any of the other options. Campy hubs are very hard to beat. Braking is excellent... truly excellent.

Really can't say enough good things about these wheels. I'm blown away.

dgauthier
02-26-2017, 09:16 PM
Carbon and tubulars!

Yes, I thought the conundrum was going to be about putting the words "carbon" and "clincher" together.

Hey, I ride clinchers (tubulars just seem like so much trouble), but with aluminum rims. But if you want the best performance from a four figure carbon wheelset, you really should be thinking about tubulars. Go all the way! Otherwise, what are you spending the money for?

Gummee
02-26-2017, 09:18 PM
I have them and love them. I have the 7850's which also work tubeless. You can usually get them for 750ish.

Ray

...and I have the 9k c24s. Great wheels (as is pretty much anything D/A)

M

R3awak3n
02-26-2017, 09:45 PM
I just bought some reynolds attacks from ebay, haven't ridden them yet but for $450 and they look brand new I could not say no. I read a bunch of reviews and they rated high, also the newish reynolds pads look pretty awesome, bigger so more power and manage heat better.

Seems like reynolds are some of the best for the price. Of course if you want to spend you have campy, enve and zipp.


oh you could also look at boyd, they seem nice for a decent price

shovelhd
02-26-2017, 10:21 PM
I'll put in a plug for psimet. Rob builds great bulletproof wheels and stands behind them. He also sponsors some of the worlds best American bike racers.

Tandem Rider
02-26-2017, 10:30 PM
I've only bought 1 carbon wheel new, ever. All of them (including the new one) are still going strong, I would rather spend a week off work at a training camp that earning enough scratch to buy a new pair of wheels. :eek:

regularguy412
02-26-2017, 11:24 PM
Hello everyone,

Looking into getting some carbon clinchers for my Moots Vamoots CR with Ultegra 6800/Da9000 mixed group.

The moots is currently running an Ultegra 6800 wheelset and it is the nicest wheelset i have owned since i got my first road bike in 2009. (My trek has a bontrager set and my Caad10 has mavic aksiums.)

I live in the Chicagoland area so the wheels would mostly see flats and occasionally rolling hills, no steep climbs or descending.

Looking to spend around 1,000 to 1,500 for new wheels.

So far for consideration are:

Competitive cyclist Mercury M5~900ish
Psimet (local wheels similar to boyd) ~1100 but could upgrade to white industries hubs for a bit more
Reynolds? Strike/assault and other models?
Campy bora50 ~ 1700 and would need a shimano freehub
Are there any other wheels in the price range that i am missing? What do you guys feel would be the bust buy???

I own a set of the Mercury M5's. I also wrote a review on the CC page for those wheels. It's listed under Mike T.

Great wheels for the money. Can't speak to the others brands you mentioned as I've not used them.

Mike in AR:beer:

zap
02-27-2017, 03:02 AM
bora one 50 (i have the 35's here in sf). I doubt you'll find as nice a hub with any of the other options. Campy hubs are very hard to beat. Braking is excellent... Truly excellent.

Really can't say enough good things about these wheels. I'm blown away.

+3

bewheels
02-27-2017, 05:58 AM
Another vote for Boyd.
I have been running two different sets for several months and am very pleased.

Very well thought out wheels. Tubeless if you want to go that route or run tubes without any issue. I would recommend having them set-up as tubeless and then run however you want (you just pull out the preinstalled tubeless value and keep the tape in place).
AL or carbon rims.
Various depths.
His in-house hubs work really well or you can go for the White hubs.

And they are great to deal with.

Tony
02-27-2017, 10:22 AM
Another vote for Boyd.
I have been running two different sets for several months and am very pleased.

Very well thought out wheels. Tubeless if you want to go that route or run tubes without any issue. I would recommend having them set-up as tubeless and then run however you want (you just pull out the preinstalled tubeless value and keep the tape in place).
AL or carbon rims.
Various depths.
His in-house hubs work really well or you can go for the White hubs.

And they are great to deal with.

IMO, I don't think the WI is an upgrade. Several years now running Boyd hubs on a cross bike in all conditions, some of the smoothest hubs I own.

dalava
02-27-2017, 01:55 PM
Hello everyone,

Looking into getting some carbon clinchers for my Moots Vamoots CR with Ultegra 6800/Da9000 mixed group.

The moots is currently running an Ultegra 6800 wheelset and it is the nicest wheelset i have owned since i got my first road bike in 2009. (My trek has a bontrager set and my Caad10 has mavic aksiums.)

I live in the Chicagoland area so the wheels would mostly see flats and occasionally rolling hills, no steep climbs or descending.

Looking to spend around 1,000 to 1,500 for new wheels.

So far for consideration are:

Competitive cyclist Mercury M5~900ish
Psimet (local wheels similar to boyd) ~1100 but could upgrade to white industries hubs for a bit more
Reynolds? Strike/assault and other models?
Campy bora50 ~ 1700 and would need a shimano freehub
Are there any other wheels in the price range that i am missing? What do you guys feel would be the bust buy???

I highly recommend Reynolds Assaults (2016 or newer), very versatile, wide, tubeless, and brakes well (with their blue pads). I think the going price with discount on these wheels are about $1200.

In the upper end of your price range, you can probably find almost or like new Zipp Firecrest 303s or 404s. They are both excellent and all arounder.

You may also check into HED, Knight Composite, and NOX.

I wouldn't bother with the Mercury M5, they are pretty heavy and not that aero from what I understand. No Chinese carbon wheel for me, that's one place I wouldn't try to save a few bucks.

sandyrs
02-27-2017, 02:02 PM
I vote Psimet. I love the wheels I have from them.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=2124325&postcount=12

http://imgur.com/W0wbUbv.jpg