-10 Deg stem options?

[bianchi10]

I'm currently using a -6 deg stem but am looking for more aggressive options without going to the extreme of a -17 degree or even a -12 degree. Both would most likely be too aggressive for me as I'm already slammed.

I'm a bit of a weight weenie, so I'm looking for lighter options. The extralite stem would be fantastic, but is only available in a +/-6 or 12 deg. The only options that Im aware of from my research are a Provibe S7 which is a 10 deg or a Deda Supperleggero -8 deg. As of now I'm leaning toward going with the Deda because it would be a little lower than the -6 deg I'm currently using and is much lighter than the Provide.

Other than those 2 options, are their other stems that are between an 8 and 10 deg that I'm missing?

[cadence90]

Thomson (not so WW) and Easton (some WW) are both available in 10°.

[donevwil]

Fizik Cyrano (R1 and R5) is 7°. I picked up an R1 across the hall and it is very attractive, stiff and light.

http://www.fizik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/114062r_1.png

[OtayBW]

I like the Deda stem at -8°. Why not try that in combination with reducing your stack height a few mm?

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php
http://ttbikefit.com/stemcalc.html

[tuscanyswe]

Double

[tuscanyswe]

Moots have minus 10. I have one in 130mm
I also have a deda superleggero in 130mm in minus 8 degrees.
I actually also just bought the hyperstem in black edition with minus 12 degrees. Its nice and feels ridiculously light in your hands. Is it even safe??!!

You would be hard pressed to tell any real difference between a minus 10 or a 12 or an 8 vs 10 in a blind test imo. Did you have a look at the stem chart to see what the actual difference in your length would be?


https://www.habcycles.com/stemfit.jpg

[bianchi10]

Moots have minus 10. I have one in 130mm
I also have a deda superleggero in 130mm in minus 8 degrees.
I actually also just bought the hyperstem in black edition with minus 12 degrees.

You would be hard pressed to tell any real difference between a minus 10 or a 12 or an 8 vs 10 in a blind test imo. Did you have a look at the stem chart to see what the actual difference in your length would be?


https://www.habcycles.com/stemfit.jpg

That's good info. Maybe not much difference between an 8-10, but I would imagine going from -6 deg to a -12 deg would be pretty extreme?

[bianchi10]

I like the Deda stem at -8°. Why not try that in combination with reducing your stack height a few mm?

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php
http://ttbikefit.com/stemcalc.html


Yeah that's what I was thinking. The shortened stack height will look nicer too.

[chazzwazzer]

Edit: Sorry, missed where you mentioned PRO.

[TronnyJenkins]

I like the look of the 3T Integra.

[kramnnim]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. The shortened stack height will look nicer too.

How can you reduce stack if you're already slammed??

[thegunner]

How can you reduce stack if you're already slammed??

i think he's talking about the actual height of the stem. the superleggera's were a slim 37 mm.

[bianchi10]

How can you reduce stack if you're already slammed??

Yeah, the stack height of the ritchey c260 is 43mm if I remember right. So the height of the stem around the steering tube will be 6mm shorter. The ritchey uses a 3 bolt system where as the deda uses a standard 2 bolt.

[kramnnim]

Ahh, ok. So you'd go down ~3mm.

[bianchi10]

Ahh, ok. So you'd go down ~3mm.

Not if I'm understanding what your saying correctly. The stem would still sit at the same height as my current ritchey. They stem wont go any lower because I dont use any spacers. However, the stack height of the stem is not as tall, so I would have room to put a spacer above the stem or cut the steering tube to be flush with the lower stack of the new stem. As always, the issue with doing that is there isn't any going back once it's cut.

[buldogge]

Depending on how the 3mm lower stem height is in relation to the centerline of the stem, you will, most likely, at a minimum 1.5mm lower and possibly 3mm lower.

FWIW...I wouldn't cut the steerer again...If you don't like the SuperLeggero, you would be better served being able to go back to a common height stem.

BTW...What length do you need? I've got a 110mm SuperLeggero sitting here...rode it maybe twice.

-8deg is a nice stem angle IMHO....and I'm a big Deda fan.

-Mark in St. Louis

[simonov]

I compared a Deda Superleggero -8*, a Pro Vibe 7S -10* and a Ritchey WCS C260 -6 and it seems that the shorter stack of the Deda will lower the centerline of the stem about 3mm (as estimated above). Assuming you don't use any spacers, this ends up putting the bars in pretty much the same position using the Deda Superleggero -8* as with a -10* stem with a taller stack height at the steerer tube. Whichever way you go the reach differences won't likely be noticeable, but the drop probably would be. For what it's worth the Superleggero is a sweet looking stem, too.

[bianchi10]

Depending on how the 3mm lower stem height is in relation to the centerline of the stem, you will, most likely, at a minimum 1.5mm lower and possibly 3mm lower.

FWIW...I wouldn't cut the steerer again...If you don't like the SuperLeggero, you would be better served being able to go back to a common height stem.

BTW...What length do you need? I've got a 110mm SuperLeggero sitting here...rode it maybe twice.

-8deg is a nice stem angle IMHO....and I'm a big Deda fan.

-Mark in St. Louis

Good to know, thank you for the direction. Unfortunately a 110 is going to be too much for me. Thanks for the offer though

[bianchi10]

I compared a Deda Superleggero -8*, a Pro Vibe 7S -10* and a Ritchey WCS C260 -6 and it seems that the shorter stack of the Deda will lower the centerline of the stem about 3mm (as estimated above). Assuming you don't use any spacers, this ends up putting the bars in pretty much the same position using the Deda Superleggero -8* as with a -10* stem with a taller stack height at the steerer tube. Whichever way you go the reach differences won't likely be noticeable, but the drop probably would be. For what it's worth the Superleggero is a sweet looking stem, too.

Thank you for that information. That's great to know before making the change

[bianchi10]

Thanks all for the advice. Based on the information that was given to me, I ended up ordering the Deda Superleggero stem.