If You Had Just One Bike to Rule Them All

[kurto]

I'm thinking of going down to just one ride - some kind of all-road, adventure, gravel, whatever. I moved from WI to NE last year, and I haven't ridden my MTB on singletrack much, let alone raced it. My riding is now all pavement and gravel, which is plentiful in these parts, and while I can get it done with 28s, I think something with more clearance would be nice, though I'm on asphalt ~75% of the time. I also never hardly ever ride my fixed gear commuter/beater/POS. Am I nuts for thinking I could live with just one - a "quiver-killer" as the marketing dudes would say.

So my question, as you undoubtedly saw in the title, is if you needed to live with just one, what would it be?

[ceolwulf]

I have been thinking about this lately as I'm planning to move to a much smaller space. For now I have concluded the Cervelo C3 just might be the answer.

[Cicli]

IF Club Racer.

[saab2000]

If I really had to go to one bike, it would be a road bike with clearance for somewhat larger tires and it would have fender eyelets and be built to install and remove them fairly easily.

Hampsten cycles would probably design my bike if I really could only have one.

[soulspinner]

If I really had to go to one bike, it would be a road bike with clearance for somewhat larger tires and it would have fender eyelets and be built to install and remove them fairly easily.

Hampsten cycles would probably design my bike if I really could only have one.

Like this route.

[christian]

160-170mm enduro bike for sure.

[bicycletricycle]

I would go with a 650x42 ride. I have nice steel bicycles with almost every tire and wheel size available, The 650x42 tire is great, the 650x38 is nice as well (weigle prefers it). I imagine they are slower than 28's, probably more to do with aero at higher speeds than rolling resistance. They are really pleasant to cruise around on and they allow you comfortable access to just about any terrain.

As far as frame material and other details go, whatever gets you excited. I prefer elaborate hand crafted lugged steel frames, however, I think that people should buy whatever gets them excited to ride.

I would get Brian Chapman to build me a 650b frame with fenders, double oversize tubes, stainless lugs, small front and rear racks for a small boxy bag and panniers, dynamo lighting, triple, paul racers, noodle bars, c17 saddle, simplex downtube shifters, etc.

[kmac]

one thing to think about is how easy it is to get your bike serviced. assuming that living in a smaller place, you don't have room for tons of tools, etc, you'll need to take your bike to a shop. if it has lots of proprietary parts which require lots of proprietary tools, you could end up in situations where you are without your one-and-only bike for long periods of time.

i split my time between denver and dc, and in denver i just have a mr pink. lots of commodity stuff on it -- nothing that gets anyone excited -- but i can take it to just about any bike shop, and they can work on it (and most likely have any replacement parts on hand). meanwhile in dc, i have much more of a "dream bike" with chris king, praxis, etc -- and it can take a bit longer for servicing. not a lot of lbs' can afford to have a bunch of r45 bearings laying around when the majority of their clientele is commuters on singlespeeds.

i suppose you have to figure out how ok you are with potentially not having your bike available for riding (they never break in bad weather when you DON'T care to ride anyway), in order to have the "best" bike for all the other times...

[yashcha]

I'm thinking of going down to just one ride - some kind of all-road, adventure, gravel, whatever. I moved from WI to NE last year, and I haven't ridden my MTB on singletrack much, let alone raced it. My riding is now all pavement and gravel, which is plentiful in these parts, and while I can get it done with 28s, I think something with more clearance would be nice, though I'm on asphalt ~75% of the time. I also never hardly ever ride my fixed gear commuter/beater/POS. Am I nuts for thinking I could live with just one - a "quiver-killer" as the marketing dudes would say.

So my question, as you undoubtedly saw in the title, is if you needed to live with just one, what would it be?

I am kind of thinking along the same lines. I will be riding in Beijing so my rides will be either a 5 hour group ride in the mountains or a solo 2 hour ride on the gravel path. Will report later on how this one bike thing is working out.

I chose the disc version because I love not spending any extra energy braking on these harrowing 20 minute descents with 30 switchbacks. I splurged and went with hydro using a shimano rs685 system, 46-36 crankset and a 12-27 cassette.

[kurto]

IF Club Racer.

This is actually at the top of my list right now. If I go down the N=1 road, I'll end up with a Club Racer or something very close, I think.

[R3awak3n]

My Elephant NFE. Best bike I ever had and does a lot of things right but at the same time was affordable so I dont have to treat it like its an unobtainable object.

[tuscanyswe]

IF Club Racer.

This is a really really good shout imo and i have had lots of versatile bikes but the club racer feels great as a fast ride road bike while still also looking good with relatively narrow tires compared to many cross bikes who looks wrong with same tires (yeah shallow but it would bug me..) Can still squeeze in a really slim studded tire if you have to. Great bikes!

[Pastashop]

Sam Hillborne:
https://www.adventurecycling.org/adventure-cyclist/online-features/mini-road-test-rivendell-sam-hillborne/?utm_medium=textlink&utm_source=BE&utm_campaign=20170125_ED#.WItkISiTd20.gmail

[weisan]

It's not hard to live with one bike...what is hard is changing the mindset and the attitude.

One must be willing to live with compromises, and within their limitations.

We want the best in everything...best tires, best handlebars, best sunglasses, best pedals, best roads, best trails, best descender, best climber.... the list goes on and on, just look at the threads that get started everyday.

Once you settle inside your head and your heart what you want and what is needed or required to get there, the rest is easy.

[choke]

Easy.....my Strada Bianca.....

http://hampco.ciocctoo.com/cl2.JPG

[JasonF]

It's not hard to live with one bike...what is hard is changing the mindset and the attitude.

One must be willing to live with compromises, and within their limitations.

We want the best in everything...best tires, best handlebars, best sunglasses, best pedals, best roads, best trails, best descender, best climber.... the list goes on and on, just look at the threads that get started everyday.

Once you settle inside your head and your heart what you want and what is needed or required to get there, the rest is easy.

This is the wisest post I've ever read about my ongoing personal struggle to rid myself of the n+1 disease.

FWIW, I have a Kirk incoming soon that combines the favorite parts of my Vamoots (fit, geo, handling) with the ability to accept wide tires. My goal is to get down to just one. Pray for me.

[kingpin75s]

Since you are in Lincoln, I would head over to Monkey Wrench Cycles for inspiration:

http://www.2016.handmadebicycleshow.com/exhibitors/exhibitor-bike/2015/10/12/steve-potts-bicycles-dia/

[gomango]

I bought the dream mtb last year.

A Yeti SB5c.

Super crazy fun.

As for the "dream" all road bike it would have to be a MAP Cycles frameset likely built like his camo rando on Mitch's Flickr.

Mine would be white though.

[booglebug]

A Lynskey Cooper CX with a set of road wheels and set of gravel wheels may fit the bill. Being Ti makes it a year round all weather ride. Love mine.

[geeter]

Recently acquired a Rivendell Hunqapillar. Might do almost everything for me.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/b72bb376f0e2623541a357dd0314df33.jpg
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[chuckroast]

I did it with a cyclocross bike (Serotta Heritage Cross). I have two sets of wheels. One set with sand/mud tires, the other with pavement/rando tires. Both are 35 or 38, I forget. Fenders because it rains frequently and I'm all set.

Currently have the dirt wheels on and riding what passes for singletrack around here. Will probably put the pavement wheels back on next month sometime.

I used to have 4 bikes, got rid of three for a cross country move, don't miss 'em at all.

[Mzilliox]

Right now its this one:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/562/31787968973_e5d788c7a6_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QqZDGz)Bike Route (https://flic.kr/p/QqZDGz) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

[fogrider]

many questions still...what's your budget, what kind material do you like? do you want something off the shelf or custom?

[Mzilliox]

Some days its this one:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/378/31878862455_e6481a3cd9_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qz2vaz)slippery when wet (https://flic.kr/p/Qz2vaz) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

see the problem here?:beer::D

[Iansir]

I tried one bike...Seven Evergreen with a few wheel sets. I very much missed having a go fast road bike. So the result of my downsizing to one bike is n+1, picked up another frame this week :)

[ceolwulf]

I did it with a cyclocross bike (Serotta Heritage Cross). I have two sets of wheels. One set with sand/mud tires, the other with pavement/rando tires. Both are 35 or 38, I forget. Fenders because it rains frequently and I'm all set.

Currently have the dirt wheels on and riding what passes for singletrack around here. Will probably put the pavement wheels back on next month sometime.

I used to have 4 bikes, got rid of three for a cross country move, don't miss 'em at all.

CX bikes are great for this. I had just my Masi CXR for quite a while and it did everything I needed or wanted to do no worries.

[bobswire]

I went to a Monster Cross, good enough for the kind of road riding I do nowadays with 700x28 tires but can throw on the RocknRoad set of wheels to hit the dirt.
But I'm keeping the old GT Kaskar for doing errands or off road tearing around.

http://oi68.tinypic.com/aw29u1.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/4hbbt0.jpg

[pncguy]

This is the wisest post I've ever read about my ongoing personal struggle to rid myself of the n+1 disease.

FWIW, I have a Kirk incoming soon that combines the favorite parts of my Vamoots (fit, geo, handling) with the ability to accept wide tires. My goal is to get down to just one. Pray for me.

And will it be disc or rim? If rim, short or long reach? Or cantis?

[pncguy]

Right now its this one:

What size tires will that accept?

[Kirk007]

Too many compromises required. But if I had to it would be the one below, at least until my Spectrum Super disc frame is built, and even then, N+1 is challenging. And given the cost of amazing used bikes these days, I see little purpose to N-1 unless you are severely space limited or simply philosophically committed to simplicity.

[BPMasterman]

I recently sold all of my bikes and bought a Seven Evergreen SL. It is truly a do-it-all bike. So much fun! Capable of anything. I'll never look back.

https://www.sevencycles.com/discipline/gravel-road.php (https://www.sevencycles.com/discipline/gravel-road.php)

[gngroup]

Hampsten Strada Bianca Ti

[Elefantino]

If I had to keep one and only one of my current bikes for ever and ever it would be the Look 585. Just updated it with a new Zipp stem and it's even better.

[Bob Ross]

it would have fender eyelets and be built to install and remove them fairly easily.

Does such an animal actually exist? I have yet to see a full coverage fender -- emphasis on "full coverage" -- that could be installed/removed without having to remove the brake calipers. Obviously a disc brake bike alleviates that issue...but is that all it takes? Three or four hex bolts and it's on/off? I want to believe!

[sandyrs]

Does such an animal actually exist? I have yet to see a full coverage fender -- emphasis on "full coverage" -- that could be installed/removed without having to remove the brake calipers. Obviously a disc brake bike alleviates that issue...but is that all it takes? Three or four hex bolts and it's on/off? I want to believe!

Sheldon nuts are your friend.

http://problemsolversbike.com/products/sheldon_fender_nuts

[sparky33]

Weisan wisdom (trademark).
It's not hard to live with one bike...what is hard is changing the mindset and the attitude.

One must be willing to live with compromises, and within their limitations.

On a practical level, it may make sense to choose a bike that is best suited to the riding that you care about the most. Let compromises exist everywhere else (e.g. use your skinny tires for graveling too). So while most, including myself, could ride a cx bike all day every day, there could be a better choice if you are a devoted roadie, tourer, etc.

[benb]

It'd probably be something like the Seven Evergreen for me. (In Ti of course) Preferably Hydraulic discs with mechanical shifting I guess. Definitely room for fenders and lots of tire clearance.

I am not really seeing how a bike like that wouldn't be fast enough for me for road rides, although I haven't test ridden one. I've gone on plenty of long road rides with folks who ride those as both their fast road ride bike and a "mixed terrain" bike.

If I had to go with minimal maintenance I'd switch what I said over to something like their "RedSky". I am probably more skeptical of dealing with such a nice bike having Tektro brake calipers then I am of dealing with shimano hydraulics though.

It wouldn't have to be Seven but if it really was going to be my only bike it'd be a bike in one of these too molds, almost definitely Ti, and it'd be custom.

[ltwtsculler91]

It would be an interesting choice for me, but would depend on price and production versus custom

Production bike: Trek Boone - I've been riding mine for 2 months now, and it is absolutely fantastic over all surfaces. Can easily keep up on the fast group ride, yet still comfortable over gravel surfaces. I'd probably end up with the hydro disc version versus the canti's I have now though

Custom: Definitely have a nice chat with Scott at No22 and build something in between their Aurora and Drifter models to make a fast gravel road killer.

[etu]

Why settle for one bike? As Weisan pointed out, it'll be about compromises. I was very much into the "all arounder" for a while, but I eventually came to realize that I like specialized (NOT the BIG S) bikes. Love my serottas with carbon tubulars for fast road rides, just adore my Jeff Jones 29er for no underbiking on trails and fire roads, and oh so enjoy my Alliance on my commutes as it is set up with fenders and front load/porteur style . Fortunately I have room for this, but a "one bike to rule them all"? Meh. A fun idea and maybe a practical reality for some of us, but not for me.

[jr59]

Too many compromises required. But if I had to it would be the one below, at least until my Spectrum Super disc frame is built, and even then, N+1 is challenging. And given the cost of amazing used bikes these days, I see little purpose to N-1 unless you are severely space limited or simply philosophically committed to simplicity.

What a good looking bike. Glad to see you enjoying it.

[guido]

For me it would be either my Elephant NFE if I was in a place with a dirt road bias, or my Soma DC/BlackSheep Ti fork and aero bars rig for a more road/long brevet bias. Each can do more than ok in the others space but the specialization on either end makes them each fit their niche a bit better...

[sandyrs]

Easy. See the link in my signature. This bike with a couple wheelsets covers every scenario in which I regularly ride a bike except really rough New England MTB trails. I like having bikes specific to each discipline but if I had this bike and my FS 29er, realistically I wouldn't need any others, and if I had to choose one I certainly wouldn't keep the MTB.

[fa63]

Here is my N, Motobecane Century Ti:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/4bfc0393da527464e018a944d0bcc855.jpg

Rim brakes, eyelets for rear rack and fenders, and room for 40 mm tires. And threaded BB of course :)

Rides like a charm, won't rust, etc. Fitted with a compact crank in the front / 11-40 cassette in the back (using a combination of a mid-cage RD and Wolftooth Roadlink) to let me have enough gearing for essentially any condition. Have two wheelsets; one for the bigger tires and another for road tires. Cost less than $2k to build.

[booglebug]

Think it also depends on riding solo or with a group. Two sets of wheels for a cross bike may work fine if your riding solo at your own pace but don't think I want to show up on a cross bike on Saturday morning for the fast group ride. I have enough trouble with a lite road bike on those rides!

[Mzilliox]

What size tires will that accept?

35mm tires fit no problem under the mid reach brakes! :hello:

[zap]

So my question, as you undoubtedly saw in the title, is if you needed to live with just one, what would it be?

Right now.......leaning towards a beach bike.

Be kind of cool to hit the road with some A/B group on said beach bike.

[Tim Porter]

If I really had to reduce it all to N, I could definitely make this work:

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/porterphoto1/26994339433_8966ec28b9_c_zpsyytxn2uj.jpg

It takes fenders (though I have not yet installed any). The brakes are not so earth shattering that they make the difference between my other bikes, but they are nice to have. And the overall feel and tire capacity might tip the balance. It would be nearly impossible to give up the three Kirks I've amassed, so this is not cast in stone, thank God.

[Mzilliox]

If I really had to reduce it all to N, I could definitely make this work:

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/porterphoto1/26994339433_8966ec28b9_c_zpsyytxn2uj.jpg

It takes fenders (though I have not yet installed any). The brakes are not so earth shattering that they make the difference between my other bikes, but they are nice to have. And the overall feel and tire capacity might tip the balance. It would be nearly impossible to give up the three Kirks I've amassed, so this is not cast in stone, thank God.

what a hottie!

[weisan]

Right now.......leaning towards a beach bike.

Be kind of cool to hit the road with some A/B group on said beach bike.

It can be done, Zap pal...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/17/02/279F45C200000578-0-image-a-4_1429235370253.jpg

[bluesea]

This is the wisest post I've ever read about my ongoing personal struggle to rid myself of the n+1 disease.

FWIW, I have a Kirk incoming soon that combines the favorite parts of my Vamoots (fit, geo, handling) with the ability to accept wide tires. My goal is to get down to just one. Pray for me.


There's a refreshing simplicity to having one roadbike. Then you only have *a* bike that you ride. Everything you do on a bike is on *that* bike. Without even trying, you know everything about all the parts on that bike. All the plans you make, all the rides you plan is on that bike.

[Bostic]

What do you do when you wake up on a Saturday morning and all you want to do is ride and the one bike has a mechanical that prevents that? Yes the obvious thing is to check the bike on a regular basis to make sure that doesn't happen.

[K u r t]

There's a refreshing simplicity to having one roadbike. Then you only have *a* bike that you ride. Everything you do on a bike is on *that* bike. Without even trying, you know everything about all the parts on that bike. All the plans you make, all the rides you plan is on that bike.

I totally agree-
For me it's also about the tube, tools & cash in the saddle bag or handlebar light that seem wasteful to own duplicates of for multi bikes - and so need to be swapped - but sadly often done so inadequately, if you're an airhead like me?
Just yesterday I flatted my MTB and had everything except the pump that I'd forgotten to move from the other bike. And so I walked.
Very nice to NOT need a full pre-flight inspection before every ride. Just go.

[Stevemikesteve]

What do you do when you wake up on a Saturday morning and all you want to do is ride and the one bike has a mechanical that prevents that? Yes the obvious thing is to check the bike on a regular basis to make sure that doesn't happen.

This. Wittling down to 2 is nice. Commuting there's stints when a mechanical is a problem for a few days if you don't have time (or desire) to fix right away. And for locking, a beater is handy if you're main steed ain't too beater

[Hilltopperny]

If I didn't have extra space and wanted to go down to just one it'd be the duende cross bike and an extra set of wheels. I have ridden it with extra fat tires on wide rims and with 25mm veloflex on nuetron ultras. It is a blast to ride with both setups, but on the road with the neutron ultras it is as efficient as any road bike. The only thing I'd change is I'd make it titanium if that was possible:beer:

[adamhell]

one bike to rule them all

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h184/adamleibow/071325BB-BB37-4C1B-9317-1E6A6E560C20_zpstmftqa0d.jpg

[geeter]

Yes! HUNQ!!!

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[jlwdm]

I never thought about having more than one bike until I joined the Serotta Forum. Now I have three, but I only need one because I am a road rider.

My 2007 Serotta Nove gets ridden all of the time and in 9 1/2 years I have never thought of getting rid of it.

My Serotta CSI - last one made - has trainer duty. Sorry, CSI.

My Spectrum Super ti makes sense to be the one bike, but it sits in Bellevue, WA and has seen 50 miles in six plus years - 2 rides. It is a road bike but designed for fenders and small racks and with a Alpha Q CS25 fork and Paul Racer M brakes can handle large tires. Sometimes I think about bringing this bike to TX, but I hope to get to Seattle and ride more.

Jeff

[benb]

I think about this but really I do need at least 2 with our weather if I want to keep up my riding schedule, I don't have enough hours in the day to always be able to keep 1 bike working if I ride it all the time in our bad weather.

Right now I have 3, which includes 1 MTB. I could easily ditch the MTB. One cheap/utilitarian bike that has some gravel ability, good for commuting, towing a trailer, carrying bags, has fenders. good for bad weather, etc.. and one faster bike for sunny day rides.

[Frankwurst]

My Riv Atlantis. Don't ask why. I don't know. It just get's my Ya Ya's out.:beer:

[etu]

I totally agree-
For me it's also about the tube, tools & cash in the saddle bag or handlebar light that seem wasteful to own duplicates of for multi bikes - and so need to be swapped - but sadly often done so inadequately, if you're an airhead like me?
Just yesterday I flatted my MTB and had everything except the pump that I'd forgotten to move from the other bike. And so I walked.
Very nice to NOT need a full pre-flight inspection before every ride. Just go.

pump, bag with tools and tires/tubes for every bike.
garmin gets moved around but it's hard to forget that.
commuter has dynamo.
simple, in its own way.

[adub]

Trek Domane

[bobswire]

Think it also depends on riding solo or with a group. Two sets of wheels for a cross bike may work fine if your riding solo at your own pace but don't think I want to show up on a cross bike on Saturday morning for the fast group ride. I have enough trouble with a lite road bike on those rides!

I'll be 72 in march and quit riding with those idiots years ago. :D

[kurto]

Just saw this in another thread, and it looks awesome. Made in UK, Reynolds steel, carbon fork, discs, good clearance, fender mounts, reasonable $$.

Fairlight Strael (http://fairlightcycles.com/strael/?v=7516fd43adaa)
http://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/fairlight-strael.jpg?itok=TP17ZcHn

[rccardr]

For me, having just one bike would mean something fairly flexible- works well with tires from 25-32mm, accepts wide gearing range, comfortable all day rider but not too heavy, and a good climber. Two come to mind:

1) This custom Pelizzoli Eroica. Can take a compact/deore/32mm/13-34 setup as in Cino Heroica, but also rides well with the standard '82-ish Campagnolo Super Record group in pic #2.

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/rccardr/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Pel%20with%2032%20GK_zpsabiritzu.jpg (http://s797.photobucket.com/user/rccardr/media/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Pel%20with%2032%20GK_zpsabiritzu.jpg.html)
http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/rccardr/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Jan%202017%20Occoquan%20Pel_zpsa3jqfs9h.jpg (http://s797.photobucket.com/user/rccardr/media/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Jan%202017%20Occoquan%20Pel_zpsa3jqfs9h.jpg.html)

As a side note, I've also run the Pelizzoli with 650B X 38mm Loup Loup Pass tires. It works, but I'm not super happy with the brakes. Yet.

2) My tried and true '88 Cannondale ST. Indestructible powder coat finish, Deore front and rear, takes a 32, 11-34 cassette. Tried it with a triple but like the compact double better-less fiddly. My travel bike, which means it gets ridden in all kinds of terrain and weather. Great century bike, but also good for a day (or a weeklong tour) on gravel. BB's too low for a 650B conversion, however.

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/rccardr/88%20Cannondale%20yellow%20ST%202015/88CannondaleST2015rightside_zps7591834e.jpg (http://s797.photobucket.com/user/rccardr/media/88%20Cannondale%20yellow%20ST%202015/88CannondaleST2015rightside_zps7591834e.jpg.html)

[sparky33]

Just saw this in another thread, and it looks awesome. Made in UK, Reynolds steel, carbon fork, discs, good clearance, fender mounts, reasonable $$.

Fairlight Strael (http://fairlightcycles.com/strael/?v=7516fd43adaa)
Looks like it comes in regular(long/low) and tall versions too!

[Luwabra]

I'd have to consider the poprad. Bmc road,mr pink, IF club race, or the like

[bobswire]

For me, having just one bike would mean something fairly flexible- works well with tires from 25-32mm, accepts wide gearing range, comfortable all day rider but not too heavy, and a good climber. Two come to mind:

1) This custom Pelizzoli Eroica. Can take a compact/deore/32mm/13-34 setup as in Cino Heroica, but also rides well with the standard '82-ish Campagnolo Super Record group in pic #2.

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/rccardr/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Pel%20with%2032%20GK_zpsabiritzu.jpg (http://s797.photobucket.com/user/rccardr/media/Pelizzoli%20Eroica/Pel%20with%2032%20GK_zpsabiritzu.jpg.html)


As a side note, I've also run the Pelizzoli with 650B X 38mm Loup Loup Pass tires. It works, but I'm not super happy with the brakes. Yet.



That's a beautiful thing.

[benb]

Looks like it comes in regular(long/low) and tall versions too!

Yah.. wow, they nailed that. If more manufacturers did that it would really hurt Custom sales and there would be no need for "endurance" vs "race" frames. I'd be super super happy on one of those I think.

[kurto]

Yah.. wow, they nailed that. If more manufacturers did that it would really hurt Custom sales and there would be no need for "endurance" vs "race" frames. I'd be super super happy on one of those I think.

Agreed. I find that very appealing. It seems like many of the stock bikes in this category have taller headtubes and more of that "endurance" geometry, but I want traditional "race" geo, and I don't think I'm alone. On the flipside, I think having the tall option is awesome too, and the bikes look a lot better, IMO, with a taller headtube instead of a stack of spacers.

[sandyrs]

Looks like it comes in regular(long/low) and tall versions too!

Except the 61, which only comes in "regular" :crap:

[vav]

That "IF caffeine racer" (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=199761) in the classifieds surely can rule a lot of other bikes out

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/338/32584779976_191ff5c557_z.jpg

[p nut]

Too many chunky, dirt roads around here to explore. If I had to choose one bike, it would be a Ti or Fe version of Diamondback Haanjo. 27.5x2.2" clearance, disc, "endurance" geo.

[miguel]

my winter bicycles disc rando is pretty great, usually 700x28s but will fit up to 42 without fenders. i havent tried 650x48 yet but soon.

i've preordered an endpoint hunter gatherer (http://rideendpoint.com/collections/frontpage/products/fbm-x-endpoint-hunter-gatherer) and i think that it will work for a lot of things, too.

[tuscanyswe]

wrong thread

[choke]

That's a beautiful thing.Having seen it in person, I agree wholeheartedly....it's gorgeous.