English Eagle has landed [Archive]

R3awak3n

01-28-2017, 08:43 AM

Many thoughr I was crazy for selling my Weigle and they maybe right. It never felt right under me and a good bike is one that gets ridden.

Was so close to buying a carbon bike but just could not pull the trigger. I had to replace the weigle with something cool and differenr and thai damn bike was in my head for a few months. I am not a fan of ISPs but I make an exception to a few builders and English is one of them.

Thanks fedex foe just leaving this bike sitring outside in brooklyn for 6 hours. I think the fedex guy made up a name and signed it himself because I dont know that person that supposedely lives in my building ( and would not bring the box in apparently). Fed ex will get a call on monday.

Anywyas here it is. The fit looks good, hoping I can get my saddle back enough because I like a bot of setback but looks ok. The tubbing is amazing, every tube is shapped, aero dt, aero st and the TT is crazy cool. The pencil thin seatstays are fantastic and super fat chain stays to stiffen it all up.

The brazing is very nice too and I love the color. Enve blaxo decals arrived feom kookies and thirdgenbird agreed with me that it will be 2015 chorus theoughout. EE brakes and ritchey cockpit.

So excited about this one. Pics in galery when fully built.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r522/r3awak3n/IMG_4881.jpg

hollowgram5

01-28-2017, 08:51 AM

:hello::hello::hello::hello::banana::banana: :banana::banana:

:beer::beer:

Mzilliox

01-28-2017, 08:54 AM

holy hell yes!

exapkib

01-28-2017, 08:59 AM

Cannot wait to see more photos of this one.

There's just something about his aesthetic that really does it for me. Incredible.

AllanVarcoe

01-28-2017, 09:01 AM

Gotta love FedEx on that one! Ha! BEAUTIFUL bike! Can't wait to hear how it rides!

Tickdoc

01-28-2017, 09:07 AM

Well, you are forgiven now ;-)

Love love love the thin seatstays and the wishbone split.

Is it flat blue with white? Lots of cool color combos available with that one.

Can't wait to see the build and congrats!

thirdgenbird

01-28-2017, 09:36 AM

Wow, better than the original picture. I love everything about it. As suspected, the chorus crank also looks great.

Now you need those bora 35s...

hollowgram5

01-28-2017, 09:40 AM

Wow, better than the original picture. I love everything about it. As suspected, the chorus crank also looks great.

Now you need those bora 35s...
There was a set of 50 tubulars for sale here in the forum the other day.. but I agree. It looks spectacular..

Mzilliox

01-28-2017, 09:45 AM

you need boras?

Hilltopperny

01-28-2017, 09:46 AM

Super nice bike to build up! Can't wait to see it when it's done:beer:

wai2fast

01-28-2017, 10:14 AM

I'm in Brooklyn and would not have thought twice about snatching that box had FedEx left it at my building. :) Can't wait to see the full build!

guido

01-28-2017, 10:40 AM

Beautiful frame and color! Definitely not a rando bike...

denapista

01-28-2017, 10:45 AM

My English should be here in a few months...

That frame looks amazing. Rob is such a cool guy and class act.

jtbadge

01-28-2017, 10:49 AM

Woah. Nice, nice. Chorus is going to look great on this.

Curious what the geo is like. STA looks slack enough.

pdmtong

01-28-2017, 10:58 AM

He does great work no doubt. And is a really nice guy. Congrats!

R3awak3n

01-28-2017, 12:26 PM

thanks guy! Really excited about this one (but I say this about all my bikes haha)

@Tickdock - It is not super flat but also not super shiney. Its kind of a teal, its a real cool color, not gonna lie :)

@thirdgenbird - Would love Boras but just can't spend that cash right now. I am going to build me some nice alloy wheels (hed belgium or eastons or velocity quills if they ever release them), maybe the boras will be in my future

@hollowgram5 - Didn't even see those boras and that is a good thing :hello:

@Mzilliox- send me some boras or those hyperons ahha :banana:

@wai2fast - the box was sitting on my steps for hours on end, brooklyn is pretty safe right now but man, that would have been such a good score for a thief ahha

@denapista - can't wait to see yours. you went with isp? carbon?

@guido - will be a roado ahah, but it clears 28s so at least I got some cushion

@jtbadge - ST angle is 73. My spooky is 73.5 but I run an enve post. This post has a bit of setback but more like 10. I will have to put my saddle back a tiny bit.

I will take some better pictures soon, specially of the tubes and stays because they are really spectacular. Still waiting on my levers from ribble but should be here next week.

Bike is not like Robs crazy weight weenie bikes (which is good because I am not a tiny guy) but it will come out to 16.5 lbs without any crazy part and thats good enough for me

weaponsgrade

01-28-2017, 02:02 PM

That is a good looking bike. A friend just got an email from English saying that his name is finally coming up in the queue.

R3awak3n

01-28-2017, 02:06 PM

That is a good looking bike. A friend just got an email from English saying that his name is finally coming up in the queue.

do you know how long he had to wait?

cadence90

01-28-2017, 02:35 PM

That is a very beautiful frame. Really Great, and Chorus will be perfect on it.

Eagles are landing all over this place lately.

weaponsgrade

01-28-2017, 03:13 PM

do you know how long he had to wait?

I think it's been around 20 months. I think he had his deposit in right before English got into that accident.

R3awak3n

01-28-2017, 04:10 PM

I think it's been around 20 months. I think he had his deposit in right before English got into that accident.

thats not as bad as I thought, that said thats almost 2 years. Good that he is so busy

dcama5

01-28-2017, 05:14 PM

Really nice, congrats. Crazy tiny seat stays on a bike that size but I guess that means there isn't a lot of stress on them.

hollowgram5

01-28-2017, 05:19 PM

Really nice, congrats. Crazy tiny seat stays on a bike that size but I guess that means there isn't a lot of stress on them.
I'd imagine that seat tube is rather stiff, so the seat stays would only be there to support the chainstays/dropouts from bumps in the road and to mount a brake on.. but that's just a guess..

R3awak3n

01-28-2017, 05:23 PM

what hollowgram said. previews owner said bike is very stiff and reading from English site :

Following on from the rear triangle discussion above, if we have a nice stiff set of chainstays triangulated across the rear axle, then the seatstays are just there to provide a ‘prop’ for this structure under vertical loads. This means that the seatstays are only loaded in compression. The failure mode for a tube under a compressive load is buckling – and steel tubing has a very high resistance to buckling. Therefore I can select very small and light tubing for this part of the structure, whilst maintaining the rear triangle stiffness required.

We will see how it rides :). Also the frame looks bigger than it actually is, virtual TT is only 56.7. It looks large because of the head tube which is 196mm

dcama5

01-28-2017, 06:26 PM

It sure looks great and I have seen other frames with seat stays like that. Good luck with it! 56.7 TT... man, that's my size!

weisan

01-29-2017, 05:23 AM

R3 pal, nice replacement to your Weigle, something different like you said. Get it built and on the road quick...

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 07:01 AM

yeah it is quite a different bike.

reason I went for something like this is because I am thinking of selling my other road bike as well and just have 1 road bike.

that said, I am having second thoughts about selling my other roadie and might just keep 2 around :)

weisan

01-29-2017, 07:02 AM

thirdgenbird

01-29-2017, 09:46 AM

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 09:59 AM

I vote sell the other and use the funds to buy some killer carbon wheels for this bike and maybe a second wheelset for the adventure bike. Two bikes with four wheelset a prepped for different conditions would cover you nicely.

Bora, corma, lightweight...

ahha, yeah I like that idea and may happen eventually. I would still want a nice alloy wheelset so I am going to build one and then eventually get some carbon ($$$ is the problem, I won't buy used carbon because of what happened to my enves, I want the warranty)

Lovetoclimb

01-29-2017, 10:01 AM

That is a great looking frame!

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 10:10 AM

That is a great looking frame!

thank you!

brockd15

01-29-2017, 12:30 PM

Very nice, very nice.

And your possibly-displaced Spooky is what size, again?

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 02:20 PM

Very nice, very nice.

And your possibly-displaced Spooky is what size, again?

Ahhaa havocstaff, 57 TT. Lavender purple, enve 2.0 fork :)

bicycletricycle

01-29-2017, 02:37 PM

the huge fork/headtube and tiny seat stays are a crazy combo on one bike.

I like it.

thirdgenbird

01-29-2017, 03:34 PM

ahha, yeah I like that idea and may happen eventually. I would still want a nice alloy wheelset so I am going to build one and then eventually get some carbon ($$$ is the problem, I won't buy used carbon because of what happened to my enves, I want the warranty)

Totally with you. Get an everyday alloy set now and bora 1s if/when you sell the spooky. Maybe go with the 50s to contrast the alloy wheelset

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 04:28 PM

Totally with you. Get an everyday alloy set now and bora 1s if/when you sell the spooky. Maybe go with the 50s to contrast the alloy wheelset

I think that is the move, to go with a more aero wheel. But not sure I would pick the boras. I do think are sweet wheels but I do prefer a more traditional lacing pattern (even though the boras are a much better deal than comparable enves or zipps for example)

thirdgenbird

01-29-2017, 04:35 PM

Fulcrum gives you the same wheel with evenly spaced spokes.

R3awak3n

01-29-2017, 04:45 PM

Fulcrum gives you the same wheel with evenly spaced spokes.

oh yeah forgot about fulcrum, they are a great deal as well. When time comes I will definitely look at them. And throw boyd in the mix too

bitpuddle

01-29-2017, 10:56 PM

This is so good. I'd be really excited to see it rolling in Brooklyn.

adampaiva

01-30-2017, 10:08 PM

humminah humminah

denapista

01-30-2017, 10:44 PM

I'm going with a English rigid 29er for camping adventures and local LA trails. Gonna be such a rad bike..

geordanh

01-31-2017, 01:49 AM

Did you get a facilitator for this? Looks AWESOME. I thought about driving down myself. Just such a sweet bike and the price was right. Did he have it listed on the bay as well?

Love it. Can't wait for full build pics.

R3awak3n

01-31-2017, 06:29 AM

This is so good. I'd be really excited to see it rolling in Brooklyn.

if you do, make sure you say whats up? That said, this bike will mostly life upstate :)

I'm going with a English rigid 29er for camping adventures and local LA trails. Gonna be such a rad bike..

I need to see what Robs MTBs look like. I am sure its gonna be amazing.

Did you get a facilitator for this? Looks AWESOME. I thought about driving down myself. Just such a sweet bike and the price was right. Did he have it listed on the bay as well?

Love it. Can't wait for full build pics.

No facilitator and yes, I first saw it on ebay but it did not sell. It was a pretty fair price on ebay, complete but I ended up just buying the frame/fork/hs since I wanted to build campy. He also did not mind because he wanted the parts for another bike.

I can't wait to build it but I think I am at last a couple weeks out from that.

oldpotatoe

01-31-2017, 06:38 AM

oh yeah forgot about fulcrum, they are a great deal as well. When time comes I will definitely look at them. And throw boyd in the mix too

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=199724

denapista

01-31-2017, 10:35 AM

Rob's rigid bikes are next level... In person they're works of art.

Where was this ISP frame listed?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d9/ac/b6/d9acb6df0394d4b760b23633595869d1.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ab/d5/5b/abd55b7b960080bce07e7e95e00828b1.jpg

R3awak3n

01-31-2017, 08:55 PM

damn, those are indeed amazing, specially the blue one. Can't wait to see what you are getting. I love that he also keeps the skinny stays on the MTB.

this bike was listed on ebay.

I have received my shifters so all parts are in, build shall commence this weekend (well couldn't help but to install the crankset today :)

denapista

02-01-2017, 10:04 AM

I was at his studio a few months ago to get a fitting and talk about my frame. Such a cool guy.

I asked him to bring that baby blue bike out specifically. It's been my dream bike for years, when I saw it at NAHBS. I honestly should have asked him if I could buy it, but I'm sure he keeps all of his builds for nostalgia reasons.

timnem70

02-01-2017, 10:41 AM

Cool as the underside of the pillow

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kam

02-02-2017, 11:45 AM

NICE! build it up, take pics and ride it!!!

anyways wanted an English.

you lucky I bought a very slightly used IF TiFLW :beer:

ColonelJLloyd

02-02-2017, 01:05 PM

Pic to post ratio in this thread is offensive. OP should be ashamed.

R3awak3n

02-02-2017, 01:20 PM

I agree :/

here are some bad pics but pics none the less.

Longer 110mm stem going to be used and blacked out the enve fork with kookies decals

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r522/r3awak3n/50769111489__48949A9B-CCAF-47A1-B7C9-876306731839.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r522/r3awak3n/50769128275__27A6E04B-E811-4BA4-9C0F-846BF524B457.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r522/r3awak3n/50769129997__F096D14A-7577-4C5F-95C5-5DAE720451D3.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r522/r3awak3n/50769132314__DFA65C36-667B-46CC-885B-019A85131B9A.jpg