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[soulspinner]

His stems too short:rolleyes:

[oldpotatoe]

oldpotatoe, I was just looking at the Harris site, and came across this tidbit in Sheldon Brown's Threaded Bicycle Bottom Bracket Crib Sheet (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-bottombrackets.html).


http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r654/traghetter/FSIT_zpsalexotx7.jpg (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/traghetter/media/FSIT_zpsalexotx7.jpg.html)


What gives? What do you know that Sheldon did not? Or, what did Sheldon know that you do not? When you and Sheldon argued about it in front of Eddy, who did Eddy deem the winner?

Given your passionate and constant lauding of the FSIT, I just don't want the youngerpotatoes here to stumble across this and then get confused....

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697930671&stc=1&d=1479793859

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Sheldon, may you rest in peace old friend, a great resource of bike stuff and all around true gentleman, was simply wrong. Italy, the very womb and birthplace of all things 'bicycle', does no wrong in the BB area. Remember, even the legendary Eddy Merckx, demanded that his BBs were the 'far superior Italian threading', even those frames made in the hinterland of Ooltewah, Tennessee..so...

Even the monkeys from the dark side, sram, see the value of making BBs in the, you guessed it, the 'far superior Italian threading'

sram lunch time ride..BB IS 'far superior Italian threading'...

carry on..must be cold outside.:)

[unterhausen]

I never had any trouble at all with my Italian BB's, but I have always figured that left hand fixed cup threads were superior. Even though I never really fully believed the precession theory of bb cup loosening. In fact, I have had the fixed cup loosen on an English bb, but never on an Italian BB.

When I was a young engineer, I ran a test where the test article failed because a left hand threaded nut on an axle unthreaded. That was a lot of money down the drain

[bicycletricycle]

If properly installed the drive side won't come unthreaded.

Actually, if properly installed they are both fine.

[Hindmost]

Key words:

presession, Brandt

[ntb1001]

oldpotatoe, I was just looking at the Harris site, and came across this tidbit in Sheldon Brown's Threaded Bicycle Bottom Bracket Crib Sheet (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-bottombrackets.html).


http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r654/traghetter/FSIT_zpsalexotx7.jpg (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/traghetter/media/FSIT_zpsalexotx7.jpg.html)


What gives? What do you know that Sheldon did not? Or, what did Sheldon know that you do not? When you and Sheldon argued about it in front of Eddy, who did Eddy deem the winner?

Given your passionate and constant lauding of the FSIT, I just don't want the youngerpotatoes here to stumble across this and then get confused....

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697930671&stc=1&d=1479793859

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9O5nEMCQAEx_13.jpg
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I always found this to be true as well. I always loved anything Italian..(even my wife is Italian[emoji4])....but I have had the Italian threaded BB unscrew and loosen from time to time. Easily resolved with a bit of loctite when tightened. Never have those problems though with the English threaded BB's.


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[Tickdoc]

I'm quite surprised to see Sheldon outpacing both the oldspud and The Cannibal by this much. His aero position on (in?) that tandem must really be helping a lot.

Plus, his choice of components looks like the famous "far superior holy trifecta" or, as oldpotatoe often says, in response to Keith Bontrager's famous dictum, "No SRAM, no disc brakes, and no nancy wheels...pick three!"

But this part of the clash is a false flat...let's see what happens when the road begins to tip up. :D



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@ntb1001: la vecchiapatata would say, "No Loctite! Prep BB shell + grease + teflon tape + tighten, hard, + ride!"

You guys are whack. Fsit > EBB > bb30

[bigbill]

Had a UT cup back out a few threads one time. Fixed it with grease, Teflon tape, and star torque (torque until you see stars). Four road bikes, two of each. The cross bike is English but it has a PW stainless so I really don't think about it.

[oldpotatoe]

I'm quite surprised to see Sheldon outpacing both the oldspud and The Cannibal by this much. His aero position on (in?) that tandem must really be helping a lot.

Plus, his choice of components looks like the famous "far superior holy trifecta" or, as oldpotatoe often says, in response to Keith Bontrager's famous dictum, "No SRAM, no disc brakes, and no nancy wheels...pick three!"

But this part of the clash is a false flat...let's see what happens when the road begins to tip up. :D




@ntb1001: la vecchiapatata would say, "No Loctite! Prep BB shell + grease + teflon tape + tighten, hard, + ride!"

Or "No Loctite! Preparare scatola del movimento centrale + nastro grasso + teflon + stringere, duro, + Ride!":)

[numbskull]

Quel di' allo mio movimento centrale Phillipo Legno!

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[oldpotatoe]

Cacchiarola, what are you two numbskulls rambling on about? :confused:

@ oldpatata:
"Niente Loctite! Preparare bene la scatola movimento + grasso + nastro Teflon + stringere, ma bene, il movimento centrale + via, vai!"

@ numbskull:
If you have a "Phillippo Legno" bb, it is most definitely NOT an authentic, genuine Italian "Filippo Legno" bb (exactly the same as a USA Phil Wood bb, but with the tricolore engraved on the spindle), but rather some Chinese knock-off 假底托架.

:D

Tee hee....google translate, with a small 't'.

[parco]

Como?

[Steve in SLO]

I'm going with Sheldon on this one.

[drewellison]

I like FSIT bottom brackets because I can remember which side is right hand threaded - both are!

Now if I can just remember on pedals ...

[chiasticon]

where's the "who cares what the BB is, as long as it's threaded" option?

[CampyorBust]

This is but one of a few subjects which allows me to lie. Little white fibbers of course.

A clue to my vote...

Mi scusi ho scorreggiato

It sounds so beautifull doesn't it? If you only knew what it meant oooo the suspense. Italiani non possono fare niente male! Well almost. Ciao.:D

[numbskull]

Mi scusi ho scorreggiato


Chi gli ha annusarato, ne ha trattato ?

[CampyorBust]

Chi gli ha annusarato, ne ha trattato ?

:confused: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/iluvMCRandGD2393/Hype/tumblr_ll5lpgcQSo1qg6i3zo1_500.jpg

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[oldpotatoe]

I'm going with Sheldon on this one.

Perfect!! This is right up there when, a long time ago, on rec.bikes.tech, I posted a 'I have helium filled CO2 type cartridges..makes for a lighter wheel!!

It was a joke and 10 years later, I still got calls and emails asking to buy them.

It is far superior, because, it's Italiano..eh?

filettatura italiana di gran lunga superiore

[summilux]

"We are the sons of the sons of Michelangelo and Leonardo. Whose sons are you?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ISEw_yf8-o

Good Morning, Babylon 1987

[bikingshearer]

....but I have had the Italian threaded BB unscrew and loosen from time to time. Easily resolved with a bit of loctite when tightened. Never have those problems though with the English threaded BB's.

Word.

And notice how the words "French" and "Swiss" simply do not come up in this discussion.