Walking In Snow - Good Cross Training? And Classic Furniture

[93legendti]

We had about 8" of snow on Sunday. While walking the puppy, the road was slippery and I wanted to stay out of the road anyway, so we walked in the snow banks or on lawns.

I was shocked how hard it was and how sore my quads got after 3 days of doing this.

Either my conditioning isn't as good as I thought, or waking in deepish snow is really hard. Could it be?





As a teaser to "artisan furniture", here are some pieces my Mom owns:

http://nakashimawoodworker.com/furniture/9
http://nakashimawoodworker.com/furniture/6/23
http://nakashimawoodworker.com/furniture/6/28
http://nakashimawoodworker.com/furniture/6/39

[Ti Designs]

Cycling only makes you fit for cycling...

[93legendti]

Cycling only makes you fit for cycling...

You know, I thought about Phil Mahre's quote re cross training (which he refused to do): "Only skiing gets you in shape for skiing."

[gasman]

I think if it helps with your cardio then it's all good. Yes, it won't make you a stronger rider but it will be easier the get on the bike if you have some fitness.

That furniture is amazing. Really works of art IMO of course. I really like his work.

[Peter P.]

ANY cross-training in the off-season is great for maintaining fitness, correcting muscle imbalances from a season dominated by cycling, and preventing burnout.

If I'm not mistaken, framebuilder Richard Sachs would train in the off-season (presumably after 'cross is done) by walking 90 minutes. That opened my eyes as to how useful a variety of disciplines are to keeping you ready for the next cycling season.

If you're gonna walk in snow, I recommend getting some crampons like Kahtoola MICROspikes (http://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/). It's easy to slip and pull a muscle or worse. I use them and they work great, and don't fall off.

[weisan]

http://videocdn.sbs.com.au/u/video/SBS/335/250/725126211561_0714-large.jpg

[bewheels]

Way back when I was racing and training a lot, I happened to live in a place that averaged 120 inches of snow. It also happened that I lived at the bottom of a 900 foot hill.

I would regularly go for a hike up/down/across the hill in mid-thigh deep snow with just regular boots and gaiters. Always breaking new trail. It was a great work out and beat the heck out of only sitting on the trainer inside all the time.

As a related story, I was at a dinner party during that period of time when someone starts talking to me about how she really likes snow shoeing and that I should try it. I made some gentle comment about how I too enjoy being out walking/hiking in the snow but I do it sans snow shoes. Her reaction after a pause was "thats stupid". To which I replied, "perhaps, I am sure there are plenty of things that I do that could be called stupid but I enjoy them anyway". We parted the conversation mutually unimpressed with each other...

[MattTuck]

Way back when I was racing and training a lot, I happened to live in a place that averaged 120 inches of snow. It also happened that I lived at the bottom of a 900 foot hill.

I would regularly go for a hike up/down/across the hill in mid-thigh deep snow with just regular boots and gaiters. Always breaking new trail. It was a great work out and beat the heck out of only sitting on the trainer inside all the time.

As a related story, I was at a dinner party during that period of time when someone starts talking to me about how she really likes snow shoeing and that I should try it. I made some gentle comment about how I too enjoy being out walking/hiking in the snow but I do it sans snow shoes. Her reaction after a pause was "thats stupid". To which I replied, "perhaps, I am sure there are plenty of things that I do that could be called stupid but I enjoy them anyway". We parted the conversation mutually unimpressed with each other...


Is your name Rocky Balboa? and the period to which you refer was when you were training to fight Drago?

http://johnalvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Rocky-Running-Up-a-Hill.jpg

[bewheels]

Is your name Rocky Balboa? and the period to which you refer was when you were training to fight Drago?

http://johnalvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Rocky-Running-Up-a-Hill.jpg

I inadvertently outed myself...

[unterhausen]

when we lived in Utah, one year was really bad for snow and we had over 4 feet in the yard. I was worried about the snow on the roof, so I tried to go around to the back of the house. I got about 1/4 of the way around in 5 minutes, and realized I wasn't going to make it to the back. It took me 15 minutes to get back to the driveway. It can be really good exercise.

[.RJ]

Get some snowshoes! Great winter cross training.

[pbarry]

Snow shoeing and skate skiing will contribute to cycling fitness.

[zap]

I've been known to run up snow covered hills......then toboggan down and repeat. My peers just stand around and watch their children.

It's winter time, it's different and fun and a good cardio workout.

[93legendti]

I've been known to run up snow covered hills......then toboggan down and repeat. My peers just stand around and watch their children.

It's winter time, it's different and fun and a good cardio workout.
Ok, that's funny.

All I know is my quads and glutes are sore, the route takes twice as long as when it is dry and it was 5 degrees this morning with a wind chill of -10, yet, I was warm.


Oh, and Snow Puppy loves it.
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/9C9A8381-C80C-40F5-8D3D-5F7B7792047F_zpsp6bq2hvs.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/9C9A8381-C80C-40F5-8D3D-5F7B7792047F_zpsp6bq2hvs.jpg.html)

[93legendti]

I think if it helps with your cardio then it's all good. Yes, it won't make you a stronger rider but it will be easier the get on the bike if you have some fitness.

That furniture is amazing. Really works of art IMO of course. I really like his work.

Agreed.


Here's some quick picks of my Mom's collection:http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FAC67D7A-929F-4448-A442-2AEAADA7179C_zpsn1diqnvn.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FAC67D7A-929F-4448-A442-2AEAADA7179C_zpsn1diqnvn.jpg.html)

[93legendti]

Forgive the "ornaments", I didn't want to move them:http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FD9BC102-F461-4AD9-82D1-0151AB29C2B7_zpsmn8ahniz.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FD9BC102-F461-4AD9-82D1-0151AB29C2B7_zpsmn8ahniz.jpg.html)
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[93legendti]

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I apologize for the lighting on this last one-wrong time of day...I'll get a better one next time. My Mom isn't home and I didn't feel too comfortable rearranging things without her there. http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/E9263EC0-B2D0-4B40-A7F7-925962F6B39A_zpsimub7xq4.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/E9263EC0-B2D0-4B40-A7F7-925962F6B39A_zpsimub7xq4.jpg.html)

[DarkStar]

Snow shoeing and skate skiing will contribute to cycling fitness.
Yup!

[gasman]

Agreed.


Here's some quick picks of my Mom's collection:http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FAC67D7A-929F-4448-A442-2AEAADA7179C_zpsn1diqnvn.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/FAC67D7A-929F-4448-A442-2AEAADA7179C_zpsn1diqnvn.jpg.html)

That coffee table is so cool !!!! Want.

[Tandem Rider]

Nakashima is one of the makers that inspired my meager woodworking, along with Maloof and Krenov. They were and are all way above my abilities and paycheck but I try hard when I get the chance. My parents actually got me Krenov's 3 book set as a gift back around 1980, I think they were trying to discourage my racing. We all know how that worked out. :D

BTW, 93Legend, your mother has impeccable taste in homes.

[Frankwurst]

[QUOTE=93legendti;2092771]We had about 8" of snow on Sunday. While walking the puppy, the road was slippery and I wanted to stay out of the road anyway, so we walked in the snow banks or on lawns.

I was shocked how hard it was and how sore my quads got after 3 days of doing this.

Either my conditioning isn't as good as I thought, or waking in deepish snow is really hard. Could it be?


The pains of winter extend far beyond the quads for us that have to endure the wrath it brings upon us :beer:

[93legendti]

Nakashima is one of the makers that inspired my meager woodworking, along with Maloof and Krenov. They were and are all way above my abilities and paycheck but I try hard when I get the chance. My parents actually got me Krenov's 3 book set as a gift back around 1980, I think they were trying to discourage my racing. We all know how that worked out. :D

BTW, 93Legend, your mother has impeccable taste in homes.

Thank you. My Father had the eye and did the buying and my Mom arranged it. She is obsessive about neatness and cleanliness...She taught my Dad about Art and he ran with it. He was also a very good photographer.

I don't know Maloof or Krenov. I will look them up.

So your story reminds me of this:

In high school I told my parents I didn't want to go to college and that I wanted to be a guitarist in a rock 'n' roll band. So my Father said to me "OK, work for me this summer and you can earn money to buy a new amp and guitar." I thought that was great. So I spent the summer pulling nails out of 2x4's.

In the spring, my parents asked me what I wanted to do after high school and I said "I want to play guitar in a rock band. I'm not going to college."
So my Dad said "I've got even a better paying job for you this summer you can buy more equipment if you need it." So I thought that would be great.

I spent the summer sweeping underground parking garages- which is like like trying to keep 6 plates spinning on pencils. No matter how much I sweeped in the morning, in the afternoon it would be just as dirty/dusty. I came home covered in black something and when I sneezed black stuff would come out of my nose. It was in my hair, it was in my socks, it was under my shirt.

In the fall, I said to my parents "I think I'll apply to colleges".

[93legendti]

I checked out Maloof. Very nice!

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[e-RICHIE]

Adam - thanks for sharing the images of the Nakashima pieces.
I bought his book (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/soul-of-a-tree-george-nakashima/1101340156) in 1983 and reread chapters regularly.

[AngryScientist]

i know very little about this type of woodwork and furniture, but i must say, it is very nice, and i'm sure something special to have in a home. no swedish ikea assembly required!

i also enjoyed the story of how you wound up in college.

cool stuff 93legend - thanks for sharing with us.

[Tandem Rider]

93legend, I think our parents must have thought alike.

I worked my way through high school buying bike stuff. My dad was a small mechanical contractor. I spent a lot of time cutting, threading, and installing gas pipe by hand. Those pretty, trendy gas lights by the front walk? yeah, cut, thread, install, including the 2 foot deep trench, the 4 foot deep footing, the backfill etc. all by hand. Tearing out old boilers and furnaces, breaking up the cast iron into chunks you could put on a 2wheeler and haul. Hauling cast iron radiators down stairs that I was afraid the stairs couldn't handle the weight. :eek:

College had to be easier.

They did encourage the woodworking though, I had the run of dad's shop by the time I was 12 or so.

[93legendti]

Adam - thanks for sharing the images of the Nakashima pieces.
I bought his book (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/soul-of-a-tree-george-nakashima/1101340156) in 1983 and reread chapters regularly.
I love the title! I am going to buy that book. I should have known you would have liked Nakashima...

The title reminds me of this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Art-Fixing-Shadow-Years-Photography/dp/0821217577

[93legendti]

That coffee table is so cool !!!! Want.

I agree, it's the jewel of the collection. I need to take some better pics when my Mom gets home.

[93legendti]

i know very little about this type of woodwork and furniture, but i must say, it is very nice, and i'm sure something special to have in a home. no swedish ikea assembly required!

i also enjoyed the story of how you wound up in college.

cool stuff 93legend - thanks for sharing with us.

Thank you.

You're welcome!

[93legendti]

93legend, I think our parents must have thought alike.

I worked my way through high school buying bike stuff. My dad was a small mechanical contractor. I spent a lot of time cutting, threading, and installing gas pipe by hand. Those pretty, trendy gas lights by the front walk? yeah, cut, thread, install, including the 2 foot deep trench, the 4 foot deep footing, the backfill etc. all by hand. Tearing out old boilers and furnaces, breaking up the cast iron into chunks you could put on a 2wheeler and haul. Hauling cast iron radiators down stairs that I was afraid the stairs couldn't handle the weight. :eek:

College had to be easier.

They did encourage the woodworking though, I had the run of dad's shop by the time I was 12 or so.
Sure sounds like it. My parents encouraged my artwork. I remember our first trip to Israel- my mother gave me a sketchbook to record our experiences. So we were at Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem. I was almost 8 yrs old and people were throwing money. Of course, my older brother picked up the money and pocketed it, but that's another story.

I have a friend whose father and my Father were Fraternity mates in college. After my father died, his father told me the story of spring break one year and they were going to Florida and my Father, who was very poor, wasn't going. So my friend's father offered to pay for him. Apparently my Father said "no, I took a job at the railroad unloading coal". My friend's dad said "I always knew your Father would be successful."

So my Dad knew all along about lousy manual labor jobs.

[93legendti]

So here's how you "ruin" a child so he/she can never buy IKEA furniture:http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab27/adambaker29/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/288315A3-D2FC-4D6E-813B-F3BA0831D983_zps5inzucwx.jpg (http://s846.photobucket.com/user/adambaker29/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/288315A3-D2FC-4D6E-813B-F3BA0831D983_zps5inzucwx.jpg.html)