Last Ride before the big V

[Mzilliox]

Got out today for a 35 miler, and it will be my last ride for a while. Vasectomy will keep me off the bike for a little while.:mad:

Bit of a Halloween theme, thats Sleepy Hollow loop. Other streets off the loop include Ichabod Lane and more.
https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5628/30065105804_36ef6fa9ad_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwvb)Halloween ride (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwvb) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

A nice climb
https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5333/30065105214_eeed994f6f_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwk1)view from Pine Ridge (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwk1) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr
https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5675/30065106764_2951029b3e_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwMJ)Blueberryies are red (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwMJ) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5590/30065106144_36d6bb05ba_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwB3)end of the road (https://flic.kr/p/MNKwB3) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

Heres to that next ride:beer:

[Schmed]

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[Mzilliox]

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haha, so ive heard, and have prepared accordingly:help:

[jghall]

Looks like a good Halloween'ish type/setting of a ride.

Never liked the phrase good luck for surgery, but good luck.

Nice rig. Loving the color of the Waterford.

A redneck "V" joke I heard a while back. "After having their 11th child, an Arkansas couple decided that was enough, as they couldn’t afford a larger bed. So her husband went to his veterinarian and told him that his cousin didn’t want to have anymore children.

His doctor told him there was a procedure called a vasectomy that could fix the problem but it was expensive. A less costly alternative, said the doctor, was to go home, get a cherry bomb, light it and put it in a beer can, then hold it can up to his ear and count to 10.

The Arkansas man said to the doctor, “I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I don’t see how putting a cherry bomb in a beer can next to my ear and counting to 10 is gonna help me.”

“Trust me” said the doctor.

So the man went home, lit a cherry bomb and put it in a beer can. He held it up to his ear and began to count:

“1… 2… 3… 4… 5…”

At which point he paused, placed the can between his legs and resumed counting on the other hand."

[Black Dog]

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BAD ADVICE!!! This is better: :D

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[tiretrax]

I watched the Godfather series twice over the weekend following my procedure. I wondered if I could have just had a fall on a bike two sizes too big, like when I was 10 and my dad bought me my first road bike - "you'll grow into it". Of course, as a father, I understand that philosophy.

Motrin is your friend.

[Tickdoc]

Sorry dude. Been there, done that. Best of luck and its not as bad as you may have it built up to be :)

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[sfhbike]

Did you exhaust other options? Copper IUD (for my wife) works very well for us.

[Schmed]

BAD ADVICE!!! This is better: :D

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There's a Corn Nuts joke in here somewhere.... :p

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[josephr]

Valium via IV makes me want to go back for a second time around...

a funny story -- there were four of us helping a buddy tile his new kitchen (5 guys total) and one guy was talking about his up-coming snip-snip....Tyson started talking about how he could never let anyone near his junk...he couldn't understand why we couldn't sympathize with his trepidation...until he realized the other three of us had undergone that knife!

Take your time....you'll be back on the bike soon enough!

[Bob Ross]

Vasectomy will keep me off the bike for a little while.:mad:

However long your doctor suggested you refrain from physical exertion, I suggest you accept his recommendation. Ask me how I know.

[Dead Man]

I'm also getting the Snip. Waiting till CX season is over..

And at 6 kids, I have no need for "other alternatives." I want this **** permanent and absolute.

Update us on how it goes.... uh.. you know.. in a general non graphic kind of way, OP

[oldguy00]

Guess everyone is different, mine was easy, and I went out for a couple of hill climb workouts (thus more standing, less sitting) about 3 days after. Never had any swelling, nothing. Guess I got lucky!

[oldguy00]

I'm also getting the Snip. Waiting till CX season is over..

And at 6 kids, I have no need for "other alternatives." I want this **** permanent and absolute.

Update us on how it goes.... uh.. you know.. in a general non graphic kind of way, OP

6 kids?!?! Jebeezuz, how do you afford entry fees??? ;)

[azrider]

Vasectomy will keep me off the bike for a little while.:mad:

I'm also getting the Snip. Waiting till CX season is over..

Update us on how it goes.... uh.. you know.. in a general non graphic kind of way, OP

Tis the season ??

I'm going under the knife myself in coming months :eek::eek::eek:

[Dead Man]

6 kids?!?! Jebeezuz, how do you afford entry fees??? ;)

You ain't kiddin. And the older they get (older ones coming into teens now), the more expensive it gets. Braces, eyeglasses, sports, clothes... **** me.

[Ken Robb]

I'm also getting the Snip. Waiting till CX season is over..

And at 6 kids, I have no need for "other alternatives." I want this **** permanent and absolute.

Update us on how it goes.... uh.. you know.. in a general non graphic kind of way, OP

I know one couple who were surprised to find themselves pregnant a couple of years after a vasectomy. Apparently the tubes have been known to regrow in very rare cases. OTOH maybe my pal was just being naive/forgiving? :)

[sales guy]

I had a vasectomy 3 years ago this december and I am still in pain. Don't do it! Seriously, I am killing myself everyday seeing people riding and I work in the bike industry!!! So everyday I can't ride. Just walking for 5 minutes and the pain flares up.

It is like someone kicks me there all day long. And then I get a zapping pain like someone tasers me.
Seriously, ****ing horrible.

And I had mine at the Cleveland Clinic! The #2 hospital in the country. The head of Urology said they don't know whats wrong or how to fix it. PVPS is so tough to figure out. They don't know why it happens or truly how to fix it. A reversal is 50% effective. the other "cures", have lower rates of cure and sometimes even makes it worse.
My sex life is gone. It's tough to get it up and keep it up. Sensation is pretty much gone. Seriously. It ****ed my life up. I've spent $45,000 trying to diagnose it. And to get a reversal, it's $15,000. And insurance does not cover that surgery!

check out this forum postvasectomypain.org

the number the doctor will tell you- 1 in 1000 has a problem. It's not real. It was a number that was cited in the urology textbook. the number, the citing, it was citing the textbook! So the textbook was citing itself.

seriously, if you value anything, don't do it. 99% of the men out there won't tell you all the problems. Men don't talk about pain and sure won't talk about there balls. My wife can't stand me. she doesn't believe i am in pain. we haven't had sex in over 2 years. i haven't ridden in 3! I can't run or walk or even sleep. I am lucky if I get 2 hrs a night.

If you want to know anything, just ask.

[azrider]

I had a vasectomy 3 years ago this december and I am still in pain. Don't do it! Seriously, I am killing myself everyday seeing people riding and I work in the bike industry!!! So everyday I can't ride. Just walking for 5 minutes and the pain flares up.

It is like someone kicks me there all day long. And then I get a zapping pain like someone tasers me.
Seriously, ****ing horrible.

And I had mine at the Cleveland Clinic! The #2 hospital in the country. The head of Urology said they don't know whats wrong or how to fix it. PVPS is so tough to figure out. They don't know why it happens or truly how to fix it. A reversal is 50% effective. the other "cures", have lower rates of cure and sometimes even makes it worse.
My sex life is gone. It's tough to get it up and keep it up. Sensation is pretty much gone. Seriously. It ****ed my life up. I've spent $45,000 trying to diagnose it. And to get a reversal, it's $15,000. And insurance does not cover that surgery!

check out this forum postvasectomypain.org

the number the doctor will tell you- 1 in 1000 has a problem. It's not real. It was a number that was cited in the urology textbook. the number, the citing, it was citing the textbook! So the textbook was citing itself.

seriously, if you value anything, don't do it. 99% of the men out there won't tell you all the problems. Men don't talk about pain and sure won't talk about there balls. My wife can't stand me. she doesn't believe i am in pain. we haven't had sex in over 2 years. i haven't ridden in 3! I can't run or walk or even sleep. I am lucky if I get 2 hrs a night.

If you want to know anything, just ask.

w.....t....f.......

[Cicli]

I had a vasectomy 3 years ago this december and I am still in pain. Don't do it! Seriously, I am killing myself everyday seeing people riding and I work in the bike industry!!! So everyday I can't ride. Just walking for 5 minutes and the pain flares up.

It is like someone kicks me there all day long. And then I get a zapping pain like someone tasers me.
Seriously, ****ing horrible.

And I had mine at the Cleveland Clinic! The #2 hospital in the country. The head of Urology said they don't know whats wrong or how to fix it. PVPS is so tough to figure out. They don't know why it happens or truly how to fix it. A reversal is 50% effective. the other "cures", have lower rates of cure and sometimes even makes it worse.
My sex life is gone. It's tough to get it up and keep it up. Sensation is pretty much gone. Seriously. It ****ed my life up. I've spent $45,000 trying to diagnose it. And to get a reversal, it's $15,000. And insurance does not cover that surgery!

check out this forum postvasectomypain.org

the number the doctor will tell you- 1 in 1000 has a problem. It's not real. It was a number that was cited in the urology textbook. the number, the citing, it was citing the textbook! So the textbook was citing itself.

seriously, if you value anything, don't do it. 99% of the men out there won't tell you all the problems. Men don't talk about pain and sure won't talk about there balls. My wife can't stand me. she doesn't believe i am in pain. we haven't had sex in over 2 years. i haven't ridden in 3! I can't run or walk or even sleep. I am lucky if I get 2 hrs a night.

If you want to know anything, just ask.

Well, that should set his mind at ease.

Jeebus. :eek:

[Dead Man]

I had a vasectomy 3 years ago this december and I am still in pain. Don't do it! Seriously, I am killing myself everyday seeing people riding and I work in the bike industry!!! So everyday I can't ride. Just walking for 5 minutes and the pain flares up.

It is like someone kicks me there all day long. And then I get a zapping pain like someone tasers me.
Seriously, ****ing horrible.

And I had mine at the Cleveland Clinic! The #2 hospital in the country. The head of Urology said they don't know whats wrong or how to fix it. PVPS is so tough to figure out. They don't know why it happens or truly how to fix it. A reversal is 50% effective. the other "cures", have lower rates of cure and sometimes even makes it worse.
My sex life is gone. It's tough to get it up and keep it up. Sensation is pretty much gone. Seriously. It ****ed my life up. I've spent $45,000 trying to diagnose it. And to get a reversal, it's $15,000. And insurance does not cover that surgery!

check out this forum postvasectomypain.org

the number the doctor will tell you- 1 in 1000 has a problem. It's not real. It was a number that was cited in the urology textbook. the number, the citing, it was citing the textbook! So the textbook was citing itself.

seriously, if you value anything, don't do it. 99% of the men out there won't tell you all the problems. Men don't talk about pain and sure won't talk about there balls. My wife can't stand me. she doesn't believe i am in pain. we haven't had sex in over 2 years. i haven't ridden in 3! I can't run or walk or even sleep. I am lucky if I get 2 hrs a night.

If you want to know anything, just ask.

:mad:

The vast majority of people have no problem. I know a boatload of dudes that say it's literally the best decision they ever made. I'm really sorry you happen to be a statistic anomaly, but you're making a scary thing even scarier than it needs to be, man.

[sales guy]

The problem is there have been very few studies done to actually know what the numbers are.
like I said, the textbook that all Urologists use and cite the 1 in 1000 figure, it's made by Welsh Campbell. They cited themselves as how that number came to be. Someone called them out on it and filed a lawsuit over it and they now don't list a number.

But the last major study done had only 556 men checked. Over 500 men get one daily. The head of the Urology dept at the Cleveland Clinic has said they have no idea why it happens and have no clue how to cure it. And he believes the number is closer to 33%.

I know 20 other guys in the bike industry who have pain after theirs. Some have constant pain, some off and on. But like me, they were healthy and had no issues before hand medically and all had issues after their surgery. And for me, talking to multiple doctors, they either say there is no such thing as PVPS or that it's all in my head. I then tell them, let me taser you in the balls and you can then tell me if thats in your head or not.

I actually was pulled over once cause of it. And the cop thought i was drunk cause of how fast I pulled to the side of the road. I was driving along and got the taser zap and pulled over cause it's crazy painful. He happened to be behind me and I didn't know. He flipped on the lights and had me do a breathalyzer! When it popped 0.00, then then asked me if I had done drugs. I explained to him what happened and he still didn't believe me. Weirdly, I was actually coming back from the Clinic and showed him my paperwork and after arguing for 20 minutes with him about things he finally let me go....With a ticket!

I'm not trying to scare him. I am trying to talk him out of it! I know 20 people in the bike world. I know a heck of a lot more out of it who have pain. And many times they don't even know it's related to their vasectomy. Many think it's overtraining, overworking certain muscles or they have a body stressing job like construction. Many men have autoimmune issues afterwards. I have had strep throat 6 times in 3 years. The last time I had it before my vasectomy was 1989! So yeah, I have other issue now besides constant pain.

Like I said, it has absolutely ruined my life. It's ruining my marriage too. I couldn't walk around Disney with my kids last year cause I can't walk more than a few minutes without having to stop cause of the pain. I wish every single day I never got this done. And I never wanted it! My wife pushed me to it. She said she was not doing anything in terms of protection and refused condoms. So it was me or no sex. Well I put it off for a year and finally got it done. And have been in pain ever since. I took it easy longer than was told to. No lifting no anything. I didn't want to hurt anything. And that didn't help. And the who me or no sex thing, doesn't matter now as I can't have sex anyways anymore. My wife, she says it's cause I'm in pain. But whats funny is she has said many times she doesn't believe I am in pain! So yeah, marriage, being ruined. Exercise, non existent. I have gorgeous bikes I can't ride. And I work in the bike industry.
I am sitting her in pain right now cause my kids wanted to go walking out for Halloween and now I am paying for it.

I can go on and on and on. But I would never ever get it done now after looking into it and actually reading up on it.

[sales guy]

Oh, and another thing, I can't sue the guy. It's an elective and it's incredibly tough to prove pain and that he did anything wrong. My personal attorney won't even touch it. No one will. And I've asked. So that $45k I have spent on tests and meds and doctors visits, all out of pocket.

[AngryScientist]

sales guy - i've seen you type this story before, and i truly hope you find some cure for all of this.

i absolutely believe you, and have no advice to offer other than to not give up searching for a solution. no one should have to live in daily pain. good luck to you pal, and i mean that.

[Black Dog]

sales guy - i've seen you type this story before, and i truly hope you find some cure for all of this.

i absolutely believe you, and have no advice to offer other than to not give up searching for a solution. no one should have to live in daily pain. good luck to you pal, and i mean that.

I am with Angry on this. I hope that you find a way out of this and get your life back. No one should have to go through what you are dealing with, no one. :(

[sales guy]

thanks angry and dog.

I am interested in the reversal but the wife doesn't want to spend the money! Craziness right there.

So another issue with the reversal is you have to clean the pipes every day or every other day. Cause one of the possible causes of PVPS is congestion. Basically things building up pressure and having no where to go. The other is neuro. The Clinic is pretty sure it's congestion as my issue. Which if you don't clean the pipes after a reversal, you'll end up with them closing up and then you get congestion pain again. So not only would have the pain still, but your wallet is significantly lighter. lol

But the when I told the wife about having to have sex ever day or every other day, she said hell no! So unless i plan on doing things myself, which I never did when I wasn't married, I am sure not gonna do that now especially when I have three kids and no freedom or quiet time.

Yeah, I talk about everything if you haven't figured it out yet.

So the chance of my reversal failing is incredibly high. And again, a very very light wallet.

[Dead Man]

thanks angry and dog.

I am interested in the reversal but the wife doesn't want to spend the money! Craziness right there.

So another issue with the reversal is you have to clean the pipes every day or every other day. Cause one of the possible causes of PVPS is congestion. Basically things building up pressure and having no where to go. The other is neuro. The Clinic is pretty sure it's congestion as my issue. Which if you don't clean the pipes after a reversal, you'll end up with them closing up and then you get congestion pain again. So not only would have the pain still, but your wallet is significantly lighter. lol

But the when I told the wife about having to have sex ever day or every other day, she said hell no! So unless i plan on doing things myself, which I never did when I wasn't married, I am sure not gonna do that now especially when I have three kids and no freedom or quiet time.

Yeah, I talk about everything if you haven't figured it out yet.

So the chance of my reversal failing is incredibly high. And again, a very very light wallet.

So you think your pain is from sperm backing up in the vas deferens?

[Mzilliox]

well ****, its done anyway. lets hope my balls are more resilient:confused:

[Dead Man]

well ****, its done anyway. lets hope my balls are more resilient:confused:

You already got the snip? Today?

[gasman]

Sales guy- I'm also so sorry to hear this. I didn't even know that the condition could be so severe but I'm an anesthesiologist so we never see vasectomy patient as it's always an office procedure. All I know is that mine was no big deal and that about a dozen other guys i know also said it was no big deal, clearly that's not always the case. Geez.

If you can see a pain specialist they may be able to help. I never saw a case where a vasectomy reversal was done for pain control. The patients came to the OR for reversal as they wanted to have kids in a second marriage. I saw lots of cases of surgery for pain after inguinal hernia repair but that had a low success rate for pain relief.

Best of luck.

[sales guy]

Dead,
thats the consensus from the 10 different specialists that I have seen at the Mayo Clinic(the #1 hospital in the country with the #1 Uro dept in the US) and the Cleveland Clinic(#2 hospital in the country).

All of them believe that's the issue. And since they tried a nerve block straight into my spermatic cord, and that actually made me fly ff the table the pain was so bad, they figured the only option was congestion. And since I have two sperm granulomas, the one on the left where 99% of my pain is being much bigger than the right, they are pretty sure that's the cause.

But they really don't know. There have been very few studies done on PVPS(Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome). So no one really knows. Dr Shoskes(the #2 guy at the CLE Clinic) was the keynote speaker at a chronic orchialgia conference a little while ago. And they were speaking about PVPS. I've met Shoskes. He actually did the nerve block. He's nice and all but he even said during the conference that they have no clue. Dr Sabanegh is the head of the Uro Dept at the Clinic, dealt with him too. He thinks congestion also. And again, has no real clue what happens and why.

What makes things so tough is so many doctors don't believe you. My original Uro who did the surgery said in this order...I am fine. I need to take more meds. I may have a low grade infection, take antibiotics. I have Prostatitis. I am fine. It's in my head.

Never once did he say, you know what, you may have a problem. He did say multiple times he has never had a patient who has had pain afterwards. Which was a freaking lie as I met an ER Doctor after I had my surgery who was still in pain. He had his surgery a year before me and was still in pain. He had to stop working cause of it.

So after meeting with pain management, Uros, GPs, MRI, CT and Ultrasounds specialists. After taking some incredible bad meds that can mess you up. Everything comes down to the Vasectomy itself is the problem. But when I asked if the head of the Uro Dept at the Clinic would say that in court against my original Doctor, he laughed and walked out of the room.

I'm in hell every single day. And the possible cure is to reverse it which is 50/50. And then of course the chance of it closing up and me ending up in the same place as before is 50/50. I could still be in pain after it even if it closes or stays open. I could end up in worse pain. Or slightly less pain. Or even possibly no pain. No one knows. OH, and don't forget, this is microsurgery. It's on average, a 4 1/2 hour surgery. Oh, and you need to do absolutely nothing for 3 weeks. No more than 10 pound of lifting. After that, it's about 3 months as 25 pounds of lifting and again, you can't do anything. Who has that kind of time??? I have three kids and a business to run! I have trips to take. I have NAHBS and Sea Otter early next year. I have a trip to Britain for a frame building course in January.

Every single day I regret it.

[sales guy]

Gasman,

I've seen pain management guys. One of them is the dr for the Indians and Cavs. Nice guy with an off name...Dr Grimm. lol

We tried a buttload of drugs. Gabapentin, Lyrica, Amitriptyline, a bunch of different opioids and more. Even tried chiro. tried pelvic floor therapy. tried acupuncture. tried physical therapy. tried cutting out sugar and caffeine and carbonated drinks. tried tons of stuff. some of the drugs were really really bad. like suicide thoughts. staying up for over a week bad. tried tons of steroids and antibiotics. I have so many drugs here I could make a fortune it i knew how to be a drug dealer!

[gasman]

Gasman,

I've seen pain management guys. One of them is the dr for the Indians and Cavs. Nice guy with an off name...Dr Grimm. lol

We tried a buttload of drugs. Gabapentin, Lyrica, Amitriptyline, a bunch of different opioids and more. Even tried chiro. tried pelvic floor therapy. tried acupuncture. tried physical therapy. tried cutting out sugar and caffeine and carbonated drinks. tried tons of stuff. some of the drugs were really really bad. like suicide thoughts. staying up for over a week bad. tried tons of steroids and antibiotics. I have so many drugs here I could make a fortune it i knew how to be a drug dealer!
Well crap.

You've gone through basically every possible alternative. I wish I had other ideas to help you but I don't.
You have a lot of strength.

[sales guy]

Well crap.

You've gone through basically every possible alternative. I wish I had other ideas to help you but I don't.
You have a lot of strength.


That's pretty much what everyone I see says. Grimm said a superior hyper plexus nerve block but lidocaine doesn't work on me. So I was like hell no are you stabbing me while awake in hopes you don't hit something. That's another reason why I hated my vas. I felt all of it. My OU said I'd be fine. But I told him lidocaine doesn't work for me. He said it would. And he used 300ml to try and get me numb and I still felt it all. At the end he said he didn't think I was going to make it. The 25 to 30 minute surgery took 52 minutes.

Since I tried everything but surgery that's all I'm left with. Denervation. Reversal. Orchiectomy. Another vasectomy while going in and cleaning out the granulomas. That's it. All are surgery. None are covered under insurance. All have major issues and none guaranteed to stop the pain.

[Mzilliox]

You already got the snip? Today?

yup, about 2 hours after the post. i literally rode, got in the shower, and drove to the hospital. had to do something leading up to keep my mind occupied

[texbike]

I had mine done by Dick Chopp (not kidding!) a few years back.

www.urologyteam.com/our-doctors/dr-richard-chopp

I can't say that it was the most pleasurable experience (the guy looked like Dick Cheney yanking on my junk), but I haven't had any complications.

Salesguy, I'm really sorry that you've had such a terrible experience with yours. I hope that it gets better!

Texbike

[azrider]

I had mine done by Dick Chopp (not kidding!) a few years back.

www.urologyteam.com/our-doctors/dr-richard-chopp

dude that's hilarious.......you can't make that kinda stuff up. :hello:

[austex]

dude that's hilarious.......you can't make that kinda stuff up. :hello:

My uro in Colorado years back was Dr. Peter Standard....:hello:

[sales guy]

I know a bike cop named Harold Richard Hunt.

[Mzilliox]

Last night was painful, but today just a bit of advil did the job. so far so good. fingers crossed

[sales guy]

Last night was painful, but today just a bit of advil did the job. so far so good. fingers crossed

Good luck.

[Dead Man]

Last night was painful, but today just a bit of advil did the job. so far so good. fingers crossed

how painful?

[Mzilliox]

how painful?

nothing a pain pill didn't control. it was mainly the swelling from the surgery that caused the discomfort. pain gets better every hour really as long as im not doing too much and i ice it every so often

[Luwabra]

Jesus. This is not very comforting as this decision is on the chopping block for us too. Damn that's rough. All friends I know w procedure done say it's the best decision, no problems. I'd def not want to share your experience.

[Llewellyn]

I had mine done by Dick Chopp (not kidding!) a few years back.

www.urologyteam.com/our-doctors/dr-richard-chopp



I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh but............that is priceless :hello:

[oldpotatoe]

However long your doctor suggested you refrain from physical exertion, I suggest you accept his recommendation. Ask me how I know.

I had mine a long time ago(1978)..I was 5th of 5 for the doc that day(friday)..and I was a runner, not cyclist and ran a 12 miler on Sunday..it's really no big deal unless the quack goons it up.YMMV, I guess. Also, unless the wife has some plumbing problems and hers is indicated, it's a easy, quick and cheap(mine was USN) way to have no mas rug rats.

The weirdest part is the check to see if it 'took'...

[fignon's barber]

Jesus. This is not very comforting as this decision is on the chopping block for us too. Damn that's rough. All friends I know w procedure done say it's the best decision, no problems. I'd def not want to share your experience.


Ok guys, I hesitated with regard to posting this, but truly think it is helpful for fellow paceliners worried about getting a vasectomy. Not meant to be an advertisement, just helpful.
Our company has launched a new nitrous/oxygen analgesia system for doctors who do uncomfortable (painful) procedures in their office. It's called Nitrouseal.
It's ideal for vasectomies, and we are just now rolling it out to urology. Think of it as an advanced version of the nitrous sedation used in dentistry. It's extremely safe, effective, and inexpensive.
Again, I don't want to sound like a commercial. PM me if I can help.

[oldpotatoe]

Ok guys, I hesitated with regard to posting this, but truly think it is helpful for fellow paceliners worried about getting a vasectomy. Not meant to be an advertisement, just helpful.
Our company has launched a new nitrous/oxygen analgesia system for doctors who do uncomfortable (painful) procedures in their office. It's called Nitrouseal.
It's ideal for vasectomies, and we are just now rolling it out to urology. Think of it as an advanced version of the nitrous sedation used in dentistry. It's extremely safe, effective, and inexpensive.
Again, I don't want to sound like a commercial. PM me if I can help.

Don't want to beat this horse and I'm a sample of one but little local anesthetic
For each incision, pulled the tube out, cut, tied, caughterize the ends, couple of stitches. It didn't hurt at all. Biggest gig was sitting there with my legs spread with his nurse there....

[fignon's barber]

Don't want to beat this horse and I'm a sample of one but little local anesthetic
For each incision, pulled the tube out, cut, tied, caughterize the ends, couple of stitches. It didn't hurt at all. Biggest gig was sitting there with my legs spread with his nurse there....

The nitrous also eliminates anxiety and you don't remember the procedure. All in all, a much better experience, unless you enjoy that kinda stuff:D

[ColonelJLloyd]

Don't want to beat this horse and I'm a sample of one but little local anesthetic
For each incision, pulled the tube out, cut, tied, caughterize the ends, couple of stitches. It didn't hurt at all. Biggest gig was sitting there with my legs spread with his nurse there....

I went in for my consult Monday. I've had enough injuries and major surgeries and heard from enough people who've had the procedure that pain during surgery isn't a concern of mine. My urologist prescribed a single Valium to take before the procedure for anxiety. I'm simply not worried about it all; there are more serious things for me to worry about.

[bpm]

I had the big V done 7 years ago. It was pretty quick and painless, just some mile discomfort and crazy bruising for a few days. The valium was an eye-opener though. I had never taken it before and didn't know what to expect. I took it before the procedure as directed by the Urologist. I got to his office and didn't feel any different so I wasn't really sure what the valium was doing. But, as I'm laying on the table, legs spread, and the doctor says he's going to stick a needle in my junk and I just say "whatever you need to do", I realized the valium was working just fine.

[Luwabra]

I had mine a long time ago(1978)..I was 5th of 5 for the doc that day(friday)..and I was a runner, not cyclist and ran a 12 miler on Sunday..it's really no big deal unless the quack goons it up.YMMV, I guess. Also, unless the wife has some plumbing problems and hers is indicated, it's a easy, quick and cheap(mine was USN) way to have no mas rug rats.

The weirdest part is the check to see if it 'took'...

^LOL no doubt.. the lets see if this actually worked had to be a bit nerve racking . hahahaha.

[2LeftCleats]

I always had thought of vasectomy as a no-brainer and never heard of or saw any but minor complications in patients who had them. Then one of my partners had one last year and his story sounds like Sales Guy. Just miserable with the pain and became depressed. He finally went to a guy either in Chicago or at Ohio State and had a reversal. It was over $10,000 cash. It's not been a year since the reversal but he's slowly regaining his life. Not back to full athletic activity, but generally happy he had it done.

[sales guy]

So the issues I have are not completely unique. Part of it is the way a body heals. When it came to the surgery itself, Lidocaine, the local used for it, it doesn't work on me. He used 300ml of Lidocaine to try and number me and it didn't work. He even said when it was over, he didn't think I was going to make it. My 25-30 minute surgery lasted 52 minutes cause of him having to inject me more and wait and everything.

I told him I felt it all and he said, well, I can't stop now. I even told him that Lidocaine didn't work on me before starting. He insisted it would. I told him it doesn't at the first meeting. He again insisted it would. Even to this day he says I am fine. He also says he has never had anyone with any issues after surgery. He said it as late as three months ago. A friend of mine went in asking about a vas and he told him he's never had anyone have pain or issues afterwards. When my friend told him about me, my original Uro told him, that I am not a patient of his. So that's what he does, says. Since he doesn't see me anymore, he doesn't have anyone who has had issues. So he lies to people.

If pain meds or neuro drugs helped I would still be pissed that I am in this position. But pain meds and neuro meds don't work on me. So I am stuck in pain. I am incredibly limited on things I can do and how long. I have few choices for fixing the problem. All of which require more surgery, tons of money and no guarantees.

That's why I spoke up. And continue to speak out about this. How many men speak up about pain? Very very few. And for me, I am out so many things. I can't even do the one thing that allowed me to relieve some stress. To just relax and not have to worry about anything. Except getting run over of course. And for someone who has been in the bike world for 31 years, and is still in it, to see people out riding and knowing I can't, it's unbelievably painful. Try going to Disney and not being able to do anything with your little kids cause walking is painful. That's why I spoke out.

I know even if the odds were 1 in 10, 1 in 100...sorry. but those odds aren't good enough for the amount of pain and suffering. And the fact the odds are higher and that there are very few studies even giving real results or results of more than 500 people.

I'm glad others who have had this done are safe and have no issues. Cause honestly, you wouldn't like the alternative! Pain like constantly being kicked there all day every day. And then for no reason, a pain like being tasered there randomly throughout the day. It's unbearable.

So good luck to everyone who has one and is ok.

[sales guy]

I always had thought of vasectomy as a no-brainer and never heard of or saw any but minor complications in patients who had them. Then one of my partners had one last year and his story sounds like Sales Guy. Just miserable with the pain and became depressed. He finally went to a guy either in Chicago or at Ohio State and had a reversal. It was over $10,000 cash. It's not been a year since the reversal but he's slowly regaining his life. Not back to full athletic activity, but generally happy he had it done.


Yeah, I have massive depression over this. Tried meds and they don't work. I go and talk to someone every couple weeks cause I can't really talk to anyone else. Friends sure don't want to hear about it. The wife, she just walks away. She absolutely does not want to hear about it!

I would love to get a reversal if it corrected things. I just can't swallow the $15,000 to do it. And the wife refuses to do it. Cause her dad had one done. Her uncle had one. And they are both fine. So I must be. Even though i've told her I'm in pain and everything. And spent *****loads on doctors and tests and meds, if I was fine, why would I spend that money???

Yeah, in one month, I am at 3 years of hell.

[christian]

sales guy, sorry to hear of your issues!

For others reading this thread, I guess i am one data point in the other direction. I had it done 6 years ago. Bruising and sore for a week, some periodic pain for a month maybe. I think I was off the bike for about two weeks. Would have been ok to ride at ten days, but I didn't push it. After that, no complications, and I haven't thought about it since. No new kids either.

[rePhil]

Sales guy,

Who knew? I don't recall reading about your troubles before. It's nice that you are willing and able to talk about it, and I hope in some way this thread helps.
I hope you find a pain free life soon.

[Matthew]

Had it done years ago with no issues. Think I was riding a few days later to be honest. No swelling, very little pain. Glad yours went well. Sorry to sales guy. That is just awful. Really hope you can find some relief soon. Matthew

[kevinvc]

Wow, I'm glad I was blissfully ignorant of the risks before I had mine done. I had some minor issues initially, but nothing serious or long lasting.

I also have a very high threshold to lidocaine, which I told the doctor up front. Of course, being all-knowing, he didn't believe me. After starting the procedure and realizing that I had almost no numbing, we went through a few rounds of more injections, waiting to see if they worked, finding they provided slight numbing, and then repeating. The last injection hit a small vein, leading to a decent amount of blood. I finally told him to just do the damn procedure even though I could still feel it.

Afterwards, because of the issue with the vein, I had more swelling than typical and some grotesque looking bruising. It was all manageable with acetaminophen and I was feeling pretty normal within a week. I didn't ride a bike for a couple more, just to be safe, but could probably have done so sooner.

No other issues and it's great being worry free without a "raincoat". Definitely the right decision for me. My deepest sympathies for those who didn't have a positive experience.

[ariw]

I had mine about 5 years ago, no valium, just a local. It was done in less than 30 minutes and I recovered quickly and without much pain. Ice pack for the crotch and the other hand out to stop kids from jumping in your lap :-) so happy to stop at 2 and not have to worry about that any more.

[GregL]

Had mine done 11 years ago. Local anesthetic only. No pain during the procedure. I remember joking with the doctor while he was snipping. He was a cyclist, so he made sure to tell me he used titanium clips to seal off the ends of the snipped vessels. Had it done on a Friday so I could recover over the weekend. A bit of discomfort for a day or two which was easily remedied with frozen peas and ibuprofen. I was back in the gym in one week and back on the bike in two weeks. So for some minor discomfort on my part, my wife was very happy :banana:

[sales guy]

my wife was very happy :banana:

My wife is happy too! We don't have sex anymore and haven't for over 2 years, so she's thrilled. After kid #2, she was totally off sex. So she's thrilled we can't anymore.

One of my second opinions is a cyclist. He was the first doctor to tell me he believes PVPS is real. Most don't. Many won't even admit to knowing the letters. He had one guy happen by his surgery. And two others plus me who have come to him for second opinions.

I had mine done on a Friday too. Stayed away from kids and everyone else and kept cold on me. Stayed off the bike for a month. Didn't do anything heavy or exercise wise. So I know it's not from stressing it afterwards. And I didn't have any medical issues before this. So I know the pain is not related to something prior.

In the end it is what it is. I just deal with it. I don't mention it if I am in pain cause no one wants to hear about it. I just push thru till I can sit down. Walking is bad. I walk the kids to school and used to walk around the block and helped them learn to ride but that's done. The walking to school which is about 7 minutes there and 7 back is more than I can handle. I can do about 5 minutes and thats it. Standing is bad in general but any kind of movement pushes the pain high.

If I had a supportive spouse I wouldn't care as much. Well, I mean I would but since she doesn't give a ***** it's all on me. She doesn't go to appointments or ask me about them or anything. She went riding and pulled the kids in the trailer. I made a joke about her only doing a few miles and being exhausted. She said, well, why don't you take them and then tell me how easy it is to pull them!

It is what it is i guess.

[chiasticon]

If I had a supportive spouse I wouldn't care as much. Well, I mean I would but since she doesn't give a ***** it's all on me. She doesn't go to appointments or ask me about them or anything. She went riding and pulled the kids in the trailer. I made a joke about her only doing a few miles and being exhausted. She said, well, why don't you take them and then tell me how easy it is to pull them!

It is what it is i guess.wow man. your story is absolutely awful and I really feel for you but I gotta say this is what gets me the most. I'd like to think that if I, or any of us really, were going through the same hell that our partner would be there to help us through it. instead of not believing you or poking fun or saying they're happy now. that's just cruel, really.

I really hope you figure out what's going on and got some relief, I truly do.

[bpm]

wow man. Your story is absolutely awful and i really feel for you but i gotta say this is what gets me the most. I'd like to think that if i, or any of us really, were going through the same hell that our partner would be there to help us through it. Instead of not believing you or poking fun or saying they're happy now. That's just cruel, really.

I really hope you figure out what's going on and got some relief, i truly do.

+1

[oldguy00]

My wife is happy too! We don't have sex anymore and haven't for over 2 years, so she's thrilled. After kid #2, she was totally off sex. So she's thrilled we can't anymore. ...

Have you considered that your life may be a lot more enjoyable without said mean wife?? It sounds like you pretty much hate her, which is understandable from what you've posted about her.

[oldpotatoe]

Have you considered that your life may be a lot more enjoyable without said mean wife?? It sounds like you pretty much hate her, which is understandable from what you've posted about her.

Sounds like a lot more going on here, without placing blame anywhere, than just a failed vasectomy..just my opinion..Methinks a few appointments with a different kind of medical professional may be in order, not just a urologist. For the gent who's obviously in a lot of 'pain', maybe for the wife too. IMHO..

[sales guy]

Have you considered that your life may be a lot more enjoyable without said mean wife?? It sounds like you pretty much hate her, which is understandable from what you've posted about her.



I hate that I was pushed into this. And before people say how were you pushed into this...We never talked about any options. It was you are getting fixed. When I did bring up the other options, her answers were of course No. She had an issue with bleeding once before after a simple surgery and almost bled out. So she was against a Tubal. She refused birth control due to the bleeding/clotting issues. And she said she didn't want to worry about condoms and getting pregnant again. So the option was no sex or my getting fixed. And since we weren't having sex after kid #2, I should've just said fine, no sex and been happily riding my bike, playing soccer and not in pain. But, you know, man. I thought, sex, guess its a good thing. Had the surgery and of course now don't have sex anymore anyways. So She got what she wanted and I am stuck now. So 2 times in 4 years. People in jail have more sex than I have had in the last 4 years!

As for leaving the wife, would it make me happier, not sure. Not like I would be happy with anyone else given my issue and all. I'd have to find someone happy to take a broken person who can't be fixed and of course can't have sex. So there's all that. And then of course I would have three kids in a divorce mess. I already have one ex to deal with with one of the kids. And it has been super tough for the last 12 1/2 years, so really don't want to go thru that again with the other two. Plus her parents are enabling nightmares. The little ones need major correction when they come back from an overnight there. It's like they forget the rules completely. Like no throwing food and other stuff.

So yep. This is where I'm at. Hows your day going?

[oldguy00]

OK, not that I'm a counselor or anything, but..........what are your options? The expensive surgery? So what happens if you decide to get it? Wife gets mad? So what if you get it anyway, what is she gonna do, threaten you with no more sex?! ;)

I guess I'm thinking focus on what could possibly make you healthy physically and go for it. 20 years from now, when you've spent a lifetime in pain, are you going to look back on it and think "Glad I didn't spend that money to try fixing this, and suffering instead"....

[sales guy]

OK, not that I'm a counselor or anything, but..........what are your options? The expensive surgery? So what happens if you decide to get it? Wife gets mad? So what if you get it anyway, what is she gonna do, threaten you with no more sex?! ;)

I guess I'm thinking focus on what could possibly make you healthy physically and go for it. 20 years from now, when you've spent a lifetime in pain, are you going to look back on it and think "Glad I didn't spend that money to try fixing this, and suffering instead"....


I know what you're saying. I have thought about it. I would be saving for it for awhile. I put all my money into the house pretty much. I take very very little for personally use. It's business or home. But yeah, I get what you're saying.

[weisan]

Went in and did mine this morning. :eek:

I contacted M-pal prior and he calmed my nerves down. :D

Actual experience:

Pretty straightforward, in-n-out, very little discomfort during the procedure, just as my doctor said, "the worst it gets is the first 15 seconds during the injection," after that, it was pretty non-eventful. I can hear the clipping and such, but while he was doing it, we were talking about his experience doing MS150, laughing and chatting away, didn't feel a thing, :p

To save us a trip, I rode the bike over to the doctor's office about 15 miles away, so my wife came and picked me up during lunch time, we load up the bike and went straight home. We thought about stopping by one of our favorite restaurants on the way but she was running a bit late so...:rolleyes:

Got home, took out the bag of frozen corn I had bought from the store yesterday, lie down on the bed, put the bag on top, and start chomping down on the pint of chocolate ice-cream and japanese crackers I added on the cart too....while watching Netflix at the same time. :banana:

one last thing to add. Was told over the phone to bring a jock strap but dropped by Walmart on the way there and they didn't stock it :butt:
Thought about it for a second and decided that the cycling short that I am wearing serves the same purpose besides I am already late!

Everything works out fine. Not much swelling or pain to speak of...at the moment. Keep the fingers crossed.

Thank you very much for asking.

[cachagua]

Smart, smart, and smart! I congratulate all of you who are doing this. In years to come, you won't even be ABLE to thank yourself enough. You'll wonder why you waited so long.

[Dead Man]

Just so happens I finally got mine done 12 days ago. Went very well - procedure was essentially painless after the initial injections, healed up quick..... all is well in the world.

As far as the snip goes, anyway......

Now it also happens to be that I asked my doctor at the last minute about a circumcision. She said yea; we can totally throw that on at the same time. Similar recovery.....

Boy was she incorrect about that part.

Uuuuhhhhhgggg....

[beeatnik]

^Doooood! :beer:

My lady wanted me to get a V. I told her I would rather do it the easy way by drinking some type of poison. I was kinda hoping there would something out of China. Ya, no surgery for this Old Man.

Poison is qoo, tho. If anyone knows of something that wont kill me. PM!

[beeatnik]

I hate that I was pushed into this. And before people say how were you pushed into this...We never talked about any options. It was you are getting fixed. When I did bring up the other options, her answers were of course No. She had an issue with bleeding once before after a simple surgery and almost bled out. So she was against a Tubal. She refused birth control due to the bleeding/clotting issues. And she said she didn't want to worry about condoms and getting pregnant again. So the option was no sex or my getting fixed. And since we weren't having sex after kid #2, I should've just said fine, no sex and been happily riding my bike, playing soccer and not in pain. But, you know, man. I thought, sex, guess its a good thing. Had the surgery and of course now don't have sex anymore anyways. So She got what she wanted and I am stuck now. So 2 times in 4 years. People in jail have more sex than I have had in the last 4 years!

As for leaving the wife, would it make me happier, not sure. Not like I would be happy with anyone else given my issue and all. I'd have to find someone happy to take a broken person who can't be fixed and of course can't have sex. So there's all that. And then of course I would have three kids in a divorce mess. I already have one ex to deal with with one of the kids. And it has been super tough for the last 12 1/2 years, so really don't want to go thru that again with the other two. Plus her parents are enabling nightmares. The little ones need major correction when they come back from an overnight there. It's like they forget the rules completely. Like no throwing food and other stuff.

So yep. This is where I'm at. Hows your day going?

Sales Guy, I like your confessional style.

and the cautionary tale!

[SlowPokePete]

Didn' read through all the posts, but I've been there, too.

Guy who did it had a hell of a uniques sense of humor.

Nothing like seeing a rise of smoke coming from your nuts.

Good luck with the surgery, Matt...

SPP

[weisan]

There's a story in Ancient China told to us when we were kids about a bunch of bidding young scholars taking their imperial exams. As future leaders, they were tested on multiple disciplines, one of them were drawing. They were asked to draw a snake. One of the top students finished it in record time. He looked around and saw his classmates still struggling with it. As the clock goes ticking by and the rest are still working on their drawing, he got bored waiting and started adding legs to his snake. The bell rang and everyone was asked to put down their pen. When the examiner came to see what he has done he shook his head and relegated that scholar to the last position in his class. The top student felt he was treated unfairly because he was in fact the first one to complete the drawing. So he appealed against the decision. The examiner simply explained his reasoning: "You were asked to draw a snake....snakes have no legs, everyone knows that...do you not know? If so, how can you serve the emperor if you are so dumb?" The student has nothing to say but to accept the outcome and the stupidity of his action.

The moral of the story: there's enough excitement for one day with doing vasectomy, don't try and throw in anything Xtra...or being WEIRD by preferring chinese poison...seriously? Snakes have legs? I want to see that!

[sales guy]

Snakes have legs? I want to see that!


Not sure on this one. But given how freaky Komodo Dragons are and how they look, like a bloated snake with legs. Or a mini alligator/crocodile.


As for those who've had a good V experience, great! Glad to hear it. Cause this absolutely sucks.

I would suggest to anyone considering it to research it more. Don't just take my word for it. Check out different sites. Read the stories. Ask the questions.

http://www.postvasectomypain.org

This is a great site of people who've had issues. tried numerous options, cures, medicines, doctors.

Like I said before, great that people are ok. Cause this sucks on so many levels. Just found out while cutting my lawn that my next door neighbor had a V 21 years ago and is still in pain. He's not a horribly older guy-55. And he looks and acts like he's 95. I mean, he looks incredibly frail. Turns out he has auto-immune issues which has been linked to vasectomies.

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[oldpotatoe]

Went in and did mine this morning. :eek:

I contacted M-pal prior and he calmed my nerves down. :D

Actual experience:

Pretty straightforward, in-n-out, very little discomfort during the procedure, just as my doctor said, "the worst it gets is the first 15 seconds during the injection," after that, it was pretty non-eventful. I can hear the clipping and such, but while he was doing it, we were talking about his experience doing MS150, laughing and chatting away, didn't feel a thing, :p

To save us a trip, I rode the bike over to the doctor's office about 15 miles away, so my wife came and picked me up during lunch time, we load up the bike and went straight home. We thought about stopping by one of our favorite restaurants on the way but she was running a bit late so...:rolleyes:

Got home, took out the bag of frozen corn I had bought from the store yesterday, lie down on the bed, put the bag on top, and start chomping down on the pint of chocolate ice-cream and japanese crackers I added on the cart too....while watching Netflix at the same time. :banana:

one last thing to add. Was told over the phone to bring a jock strap but dropped by Walmart on the way there and they didn't stock it :butt:
Thought about it for a second and decided that the cycling short that I am wearing serves the same purpose besides I am already late!

Everything works out fine. Not much swelling or pain to speak of...at the moment. Keep the fingers crossed.

Thank you very much for asking.

Had mine in the dark ages. 1978. Friday, last of 5 done by this USAF guy(USAF exchange)..I was a runner at the time. I ran on Sunday..no problema.

[Mzilliox]

Didn' read through all the posts, but I've been there, too.

Guy who did it had a hell of a uniques sense of humor.

Nothing like seeing a rise of smoke coming from your nuts.

Good luck with the surgery, Matt...

SPP

mines done man, whew. i still get the odd sore nut here and there, but im pretty sure that happened before on occasion anyway. itll be sore for 30 mins or so then i move on with life and do something else. i more sore from cycling every day anyway.

[SoCalSteve]

Had mine done over 15 years ago. A couple days of minor pain and haven't even given it a second thought ( pain wise ) since then. Was a great decision for me. Should have done it years sooner.

[SoCalSteve]

^Doooood! :beer:

My lady wanted me to get a V. I told her I would rather do it the easy way by drinking some type of poison. I was kinda hoping there would something out of China. Ya, no surgery for this Old Man.

Poison is qoo, tho. If anyone knows of something that wont kill me. PM!

Just curious what you are so scared of?

[beeatnik]

Not scared. Just trying to make it through life without having a single elective surgery.

Witnessing my mom have nearly 10 surgeries (hip replacement, heart cancer 2x, leg sarcoma, abdominal sarcoma), I'd like to avoid the OR, if AT ALL possible.

[weisan]

Understood, peace.

This is a personal decision everyone must make for themselves, hopefully without too much external influence or spousal pressure.

We have six beautiful children. My wife went through six pregnancies. This is nuthin' compared. It's my decision.

[Mzilliox]

Not scared. Just trying to make it through life without having a single elective surgery.

Witnessing my mom have nearly 10 surgeries (hip replacement, heart cancer 2x, leg sarcoma, abdominal sarcoma), I'd like to avoid the OR, if AT ALL possible.

good call if you can avoid it. i have been unfortunate enough to have had around 10 surgeries (some lymph node biopsies, 3 acl repairs, ruptured spleen, fractured femur, crushed left hand, vasectomy) for various things stupid and not so stupid. I guess you could say im not very afraid of it anymore, but i hate it every time, and i hate hospitals.

good call Weisan, this is nothing compared to a pregnancy

[beeatnik]

I applaud your choice Weisan. I'm a believer in replacement level population management. I have 3 siblings and we've added a total of 4 children to the planet. My sisters are in their early 30's so they wont be having large families. In any case, since replacement level would be 8 for my generation, we're 4 below our allowance at the moment. You can have our 4 extra, which will technically put you and your spouse at replacement level (your "quota" of 2 plus the 4 from my family).

[SoCalSteve]

Not scared. Just trying to make it through life without having a single elective surgery.

Witnessing my mom have nearly 10 surgeries (hip replacement, heart cancer 2x, leg sarcoma, abdominal sarcoma), I'd like to avoid the OR, if AT ALL possible.

Best of luck with that, seriously!

Been through 4 heart procedures ( ablations ), many ER visits ( same condition-irregular heart rhythms ), epidurals for sciatica and knee replacement surgery. Having my vasectomy was a walk in the park compared to all the other surgeries-procedures I've had.

But, I get it...if I never see the inside of a hospital again, I'd be a really happy guy!

[oldguy00]

For me, it seemed like such a simple option compared to my wife getting 'fixed', and didn't want to depend on pill, didn't want to use condoms, etc.
So me getting snipped was the choice, and the wife promised lots of sex....lol. She's held up her end of the bargain pretty good. :) Been 6 years now, never any issues. Whole procedure was, what, 10 minutes?

[weisan]

I applaud your choice Weisan. I'm a believer in replacement level population management. I have 3 siblings and we've added a total of 4 children to the planet. My sisters are in their early 30's so they wont be having large families. In any case, since replacement level would be 8 for my generation, we're 4 below our allowance at the moment. You can have our 4 extra, which will technically put you and your spouse at replacement level (your "quota" of 2 plus the 4 from my family).

Thank you Be-pal, you are so generous....I will send you the link to my kids college fund donation box. :D

[weisan]

the wife promised lots of sex....Whole procedure was, what, 10 minutes?

We were already have lots...I can't imagine after...no thanks, I need to save some energy for cycling. :rolleyes:

I got you beat old pal, mine was done in 8 mins 22 sec.

[Tickdoc]

Mine was the result of a promise to my wife. She had a tummy tuck, and I promised I would have the V done after since she couldn't risk any more pregnancies (plus we knew we were done having kids at that point).

Sad part is, she ended up having to have a total hysterectomy two years later making my V totally unnecessary. Oh well. Cie la vie!

[sales guy]

For me, it seemed like such a simple option compared to my wife getting 'fixed', and didn't want to depend on pill, didn't want to use condoms, etc.
So me getting snipped was the choice, and the wife promised lots of sex....lol. She's held up her end of the bargain pretty good. :) Been 6 years now, never any issues. Whole procedure was, what, 10 minutes?


Mine, took 58 minutes! He kept trying to numb me and I kept telling him it doesn't work on me but of course, doctors know everything!

Oh, and the sex part, HA! That's funny. Hasn't happened in years. I should've just stayed in one piece and been healthy and able to do things since sex was never happening anyways!

[oldguy00]

We were already have lots...I can't imagine after...no thanks, I need to save some energy for cycling. :rolleyes:

I got you beat old pal, mine was done in 8 mins 22 sec.

Lol, I don't know the exact time.....I remember a needle to freeze (most painful part but not bad), then a few minutes later some 'pulling', a puff of smoke, and done. I never had any swelling nor much pain at all, went on my first bike ride 3 days later, but did a hill workout and stayed out of the saddle for most of it..

I had a hip xray done recently, and the radiologist was kind enough to point out that my vasectomy clips were still in place.... :)

[weisan]

Lol, I don't know the exact time.....I remember a needle to freeze (most painful part but not bad), then a few minutes later some 'pulling', a puff of smoke, and done. I never had any swelling nor much pain at all, went on my first bike ride 3 days later, but did a hill workout and stayed out of the saddle for most of it..

I had a hip xray done recently, and the radiologist was kind enough to point out that my vasectomy clips were still in place.... :)

Your description fits mine to the T.

You and the other REALLY old pal are brave...to be out doing stuff like that. I will be more caution. My doctor told me in his 40 years of practice, there were 2 cases. One of them involves a guy who went out and rode his motorcycle two days after, caused major swelling..,don't remember the other one.

I can wait....small price to pay.

[Mzilliox]

Your description fits mine to the T.

You and the other REALLY old pal are brave...to be out doing stuff like that. I will be more caution. My doctor told me in his 40 years of practice, there were 2 cases. One of them involves a guy who went out and rode his motorcycle two days after, caused major swelling..,don't remember the other one.

I can wait....small price to pay.

i waited 3 weeks just to be safe. could have ridden in 2 no problem, but sweat and infection and such, well, just not worth it. lots of days to ide. hell, i should be riding today, btu my ride yesterday was so pathetic, i decided my legs need the day off, and by day off ill do about 10 hours of farm work

[livingminimal]

Vasectomies are ****ing awesome. It took me a couple of weeks to get back on the bike.

Best decision I ever made was to book mine as soon as my second child came out healthy and all good. I don't want to add anyone else to the world, I don't want to start my parenthood clock over.

My brother just had his first kid. I get to play uncle now, but I am perfectly happy watching my two children grow up and develop and become more self-sufficient so I don't have to tend to all the basic needs like diapers, strollers, etc.

[weisan]

Pals, please allow me to introduce my friend...he's been by my bedside ever since my return with the occasional visit to the freezer for a recharge.

[Peter P.]

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So me getting snipped was the choice, and the wife promised lots of sex....lol. She's held up her end of the bargain pretty good. :) Been 6 years now, never any issues. Whole procedure was, what, 10 minutes?

Ten minutes for what; the sex or the vasectomy? :rolleyes:

[oldguy00]

Ten minutes for what; the sex or the vasectomy? :rolleyes:

Lol, if sex is a 'procedure' for you, I feel bad for you!