Great Idea - King Cages dropped to fit frame bag

[ptourkin]

http://atmhandmadegoods.bigcartel.com/product/king-cage-drop-bottle-cage

I have to use an older Shimano Di2 adapter or a Problem Solver when I use a frame bag on my road bike for endurance events. This is simpler. I like it.

[ColonelJLloyd]

I like the MSW Up or Down cage. An advantage over the above solution is that you're not married to a single position which is useful in maxing out main triangle space. Much better for side entry/retrieval when the frame bag is close as well.

https://online2.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/WC3920.jpg

[ptourkin]

I like the MSW Up or Down cage. An advantage over the above solution is that you're not married to a single position which is useful in maxing out main triangle space. Much better for side entry/retrieval when the frame bag is close as well.

https://online2.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/WC3920.jpg


Good point. I also steal my girlfriend's side loader when I race.

[unterhausen]

they said they had a dropper cage on their FB page months ago, but it doesn't show up on their site. I want a couple of them. Told my LBS to get them, but I don't think they've done an order recently

[eBAUMANN]

you know whats an even better idea?
building the frame with the bottle bosses lower in the first place ;)

[ColonelJLloyd]

you know whats an even better idea?
building the frame with the bottle bosses lower in the first place ;)

Easy, guy. Let's not rock the boat.

[unterhausen]

you know whats an even better idea?
building the frame with the bottle bosses lower in the first place ;)

I call these cages "my builder screwed up cages." But there was a recent discussion about where to put the bottle cages, and a batch of builders said they should be equidistant from the bb. So people are doing it on purpose. My calves are too big for that with today's larger bottles, I'm putting the seat post cage as low as I can get it from now on. When I learned to build, having a DT water bottle boss was a new innovation, nobody put them on the seat tube back then. So I just followed what other people were doing. But now I've learned better.

[eBAUMANN]

...a batch of builders said they should be equidistant from the bb. So people are doing it on purpose.

...because thats how its always been done, right?

let me preface this by saying i am not directing these comments at you or anyone else in particular, just some general frustrations/confusion that i have been experiencing for a couple years now.

the h20 boss location debacle is similar to how some builders continue to build frames with the same "standard" width canti bosses despite the fact that rims have gotten MUCH wider since the 80's and so should the bosses, PARTICULARLY if you intend on using wide carbon rims, which will need extra room for a pad/pad holder style brake pad situation.

frame bags are here, they are great, and they aren't going anywhere...adapt your methods to suit the times i say.

here are 4 arguments for lower bottle mounts on off-road/gravel/cx bikes:

1 - room for frame bags

2 - lower center of gravity having the bottles in the base of the triangle

3 - more clearance for shouldering the bike with bottles in place, should the need arise

4 - depending on the size of the frame and the tube spec, the lower of the 2 bosses have a chance of ending up on a butted/thicker portion of the tube, which is only a good thing.

and arguments for higher bosses:

1 - easy of reach while riding
2 - visual symmetry?
3 - tradition?

thats about it as far as i can tell...none of which i find to be particularly compelling.

so yea, the mounts on every cx frame i make or have made will be slammed, because it just makes more sense.

[slowpoke]

If I recall correctly, Rick Hunter in Santa Cruz, whose usually known for his CX bikes, goes high on the downtube, but slammed on the seattube to make more space for shouldering the bike. I'm sure if he was building an adventure rig, he'd consider the frame bag element. Dude's been making bikes for ~20 years.

Edit: yup..

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