White Industries releases R30 VBC Cranks

[guido]

http://www.whiteind.com/r30

External bearing BB fans can now share the wonderfulness that is the White VBC!

[mktng]

Man. Those are nice.

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[merckx]

157.2 is a pretty heady Q for a double.

[R3awak3n]

157.2 is a pretty heady Q for a double.

Its a bit more than the square taper, its even more on the gravel crank they offer now.

A lot of people using these have them on a gravel bike with fat rubber so the increased q will allow to fit these cranks better.

Also you have almost the same gearing range as a triple with less q than a triple (in this case though, pretty close to a triple but still less).

It is also much lighter than the square taper counter part and I think that is probably the best thing about it, I would totally switch mine out (I will wait till it brakes which will probably not happen for a long long long time, these are great cranks.

[AngryScientist]

Figures; I just bought a ST version. I wonder what the bottom bracket interface is? Unique to this crank or maybe (hopefully?) compatible with something Chris king offers.

[hollowgram5]

I am pretty sure it's 30mm across the entire spindle, since that's what their BB offerings are for. I'd guess it's similar spindle and spline interface to the rest of the 30mm crowd..

Can probably run a king PF30 BB if you desire..

[ColonelJLloyd]

It is also much lighter than the square taper counter part and I think that is probably the best thing about it...

Do they list what rings/hardware/lockring weigh? Wondering what a complete setup weighs.

Really attractive when you need particular chainrings. I'm glad I was able to get the gearing I wanted with a not uncommon 42/28 combo.

[Formulasaab]

I do love my VBC cranks and the flexibility of such a wide range of chainring choices. So these are probably in my future at some point.

The overall cost is a bit higher than the square taper. I'm not sure how the weight shakes out since the listed weight of the VBC crank doesn't mention if that is with rings or not. I guess I could weigh one of my VBC sets at home and find out.

So, the advantages I see are:

Increased rigidity/stiffness
Ceramic ($$) bearing option
Easier installation/servicing

[R3awak3n]

Do they list what rings/hardware/lockring weigh? Wondering what a complete setup weighs.

Really attractive when you need particular chainrings. I'm glad I was able to get the gearing I wanted with a not uncommon 42/28 combo.

I wonder the same because that weight is definitely only the crankset. I would say probably between 800-900 grams for the whole crankset (on the square taper so this one would be like 100g less and the new BB standard will be less heavy than the square taper too so its a significant difference). Definitely not a light crankset.



As far as BB interface these will work with tons of standards, BSA, PF30, ect. Pretty cool.

[ColonelJLloyd]

I'm not sure how the weight shakes out since the listed weight of the VBC crank doesn't mention if that is with rings or not.


My 156Q, 170mm 42/28 SRAM XX weighs 660g. Certainly the 560g weight listed is for the arms and extractor only. Honestly, I understand why they don't post weights of individual rings or even ranges.

[hollowgram5]

My 156Q, 170mm 42/28 SRAM XX weighs 660g. Certainly the 560g weight listed is for the arms and extractor only.
I'd guess spindle as well. Everything but VBC rings.. or single ring if that's your fancy..

[ColonelJLloyd]

I'd guess spindle as well. Everything but VBC rings.. or single ring if that's your fancy..

Right, yeah the spindle. I would assume it's fixed to the DS arm.

Don't forget the outer chainring lockring. ;)

[hollowgram5]

Right, yeah the spindle. I would assume it's fixed to the DS arm.

Don't forget the outer chainring lockring. ;)
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[Formulasaab]

I've got a full VBC assembly with rings and a Ti BB sitting on my bench at home. I'll throw it on the scale after work.

[Lovetoclimb]

Slightly confused; will this crank with the WI BSA BB cups work on my Soma Wolverine? Does their new crank have a 30mm spindle requiring the use of their 30mm outboard bearing cups threaded for a 68mm BB?

Exciting news if so as I've not really enjoyed the aesthetics of the Ultegra crank on there now and often find the 34x36 low gear to be wanting for just a bit more range.

[ColonelJLloyd]

Slightly confused; will this crank with the WI BSA BB cups work on my Soma Wolverine?

Yes.

Does their new crank have a 30mm spindle requiring the use of their 30mm outboard bearing cups threaded for a 68mm BB?

Theirs or other makers' BBs for 30mm spindles (we assume).

[bikenow]

Wow, just another thing for me to lust over atm. Anything else similar to this

[jtbadge]

Theirs or other makers' BBs for 30mm spindles (we assume).

I'm going to buy a BSA WI BB to pair with my 'BB30' Force 22 cranks when I switch them to my new bike. Currently using an FSA MegaEvo.

[donevwil]

157.2 is a pretty heady Q for a double.

Road double to boot. Square taper road VBC is 150mm, wider than most "road" cranks already. Sad to see this.

[kingpin75s]

Road double to boot. Square taper road VBC is 150mm, wider than most "road" cranks already. Sad to see this.

+1.

7.2mm more than I am interested in going for road Q-factor.

Will stick with SqT version.

I do use these for mountain bikes a lot as well so could be of good use for narrowing Q on a mountain setup as I had to space my SqT WI VBC on my Moots out to 156mm Q-factor anyway to clear chain stays.

[thirdgenbird]

I'm going to buy a BSA WI BB to pair with my 'BB30' Force 22 cranks when I switch them to my new bike. Currently using an FSA MegaEvo.

BB30 cranks are too narrow for a standard BSA bottom bracket.

[jtbadge]

BB30 cranks are too narrow for a standard BSA bottom bracket.

Hence the quotes around BB30. I've been using the Force 22 'BB30' cranks for over a year on two different BSA BB-equipped bikes. They have a longer spindle than standard BB30 and are presumably the same dimensions as the new WI cranks. I'm glad to see more companies embracing this near-universal crank spec.

[thirdgenbird]

So SRAM bb30 cranks are not bb30?

Yes, I get a wider spindle works fine in a bb30 frame but that doesn't make it bb30. It sounds more like bb386. i agree with you on the universal spec.

[jtbadge]

So SRAM bb30 cranks are not bb30?

Yes, I get a wider spindle works fine in a bb30 frame but that doesn't make it bb30. It sounds more like bb386. i agree with you on the universal spec.

The SRAM BB30 cranks with removable spiders (Force 22, Force 1, I think also Rival 22) are technically BB386, yes. I believe this new WI Crank would also fall in that category.

[hollowgram5]

The SRAM BB30 cranks with removable spiders (Force 22, Force 1, I think also Rival 22) are technically BB386, yes. I believe this new WI Crank would also fall in that category.
Right. Any of them that require the small spacer on the drive side of the spindle between the crank arm and the bearings... Sometimes they get called PF30 cranks instead of BB30 specifically

[Formulasaab]

835 grams for a VBC crank, 170 long, a 46 big ring and 26 small ring, with White Industries Titanium BB (which accounts for 155 grams of the total).


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[moots7]

I am currently running Shimano Ultegra 6750 cranks and CK Bottom Bracket on my Routt. It has a 68mm English BB. 50/34 Rings with 12-30 Cassette, would like lower gearing.
I wouldn't mind trying the new WI Crankset and BB.
Not sure which WI setup would be best?
Help! Was thinking R30 Crankset with their BSA Bottom Bracket?
Maybe 50/30 rings?

[Bostic]

I want to love this crank but the q-factor is massive-wide for a double.

[ColonelJLloyd]

Maybe 50/30 rings?

20t is a large gap. Can you find a FD to shift it more or less reliably? Yes, but in my mind you'd be better served by choosing a 46t outer and using an 11-30 cassette. 50-12 and 46-11 should produce the same size gear.

You could also mate a 46/32 double to an 11-32 cassette. You may lose some steps you're fond of; not sure. Lots of nice steps for me on the Shimano 11-32 cassettes.