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fstrthnu
07-19-2006, 08:40 PM
... that after three weeks of racing, it really matters if You are a good time trialist or not? Just LOOK at how Periero pedaled today! IMHO he has the goods for the Yellow. His recovery seems superior to the others.
Fstrthnu
life will be good on periero's watch atmo.
J.Greene
07-19-2006, 08:42 PM
... that after three weeks of racing, it really matters if You are a good time trialist or not? Just LOOK at how Periero pedaled today! IMHO he has the goods for the Yellow. His recovery seems superior to the others.
Fstrthnu
I have always thought this also. It is a last man standing kind of thing. Thanks for confirming it.
JG
Grant McLean
07-19-2006, 08:42 PM
... that after three weeks of racing, it really matters if You are a good time trialist or not? Just LOOK at how Periero pedaled today! IMHO he has the goods for the Yellow. His recovery seems superior to the others.
Fstrthnu
word.
Even Pantani rode a couple of good time trials to win 3 week races.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/1998/tour98/stage20.html
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fstrthnu
07-19-2006, 08:46 PM
word.
Even Pantani rode a couple of good time trials to win 3 week races.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/1998/tour98/stage20.html
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THAT is excactly what I was referencing!
Fstrthnu
Grant McLean
07-19-2006, 08:54 PM
THAT is excactly what I was referencing!
Fstrthnu
(and fools seldom differ.....) :)
Pantani beat Eki by about 1:20.
So I guess you gotta want it.
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obtuse
07-19-2006, 09:10 PM
... that after three weeks of racing, it really matters if You are a good time trialist or not? Just LOOK at how Periero pedaled today! IMHO he has the goods for the Yellow. His recovery seems superior to the others.
Fstrthnu
sastre dropped them all.
we'll see what happens tomorrow....it's alll going to come down to "recovery" and "preparation".
dr. obtuse
saab2000
07-19-2006, 09:20 PM
Tomorrow's gonna be good. Sastre did indeed drop them all, but he looked like he was going faster than he really was and his gap at the end was not as big as I thought it would be.
I hope Pereiro wins not that FL is out of the picture.
fstrthnu
07-19-2006, 09:22 PM
sastre dropped them all.
we'll see what happens tomorrow....it's alll going to come down to "recovery" and "preparation".
dr. obtuse
Tell Me about it.
Fstrthnu
sastre dropped them all.
we'll see what happens tomorrow....it's alll going to come down to "recovery" and "preparation".
dr. obtuse
thread drift atmo -
the race to replace fell flat on its face?
all the king's horses and all the king's men, etcetera...
coylifut
07-19-2006, 09:27 PM
Periero only dropped a minute and some change to Klodi and Evans in the first tt. If he holds his place, he's got as good as a chance as any. However, because of his Liz Taylor like glasses, I'm pulling for Klodi.
obtuse
07-19-2006, 09:31 PM
Tell Me about it.
Fstrthnu
ok.
i'm going to need a nick name though. could you give me the name of your pet and the name of the street where you grew up?
i'm running a special this month on preperation AND recovery. two for one kid!
dr. obtuse
ok.
i'm going to need a nick name though. could you give me the name of your pet and the name of the street where you grew up?
i'm running a special this month on preperation AND recovery. two for one kid!
dr. obtuse
jerkstrong atmo
manet
07-19-2006, 09:35 PM
However, because of his Liz Taylor like glasses, I'm pulling for Klodi.
but what of that shnoz training bra?
coylifut
07-19-2006, 09:41 PM
but what of that shnoz training bra?
that's just there to keep the glasses from traveling down the nose.
obtuse
07-19-2006, 09:41 PM
jerkstrong atmo
things will be high-five on my watch atmo.
citizen obtuse
manet
07-19-2006, 09:45 PM
things will be high-five on my watch atmo.
citizen obtuse
just say no
Periero only dropped a minute and some change to Klodi and Evans in the first tt. If he holds his place, he's got as good as a chance as any. However, because of his Liz Taylor like glasses, I'm pulling for Klodi.
I'm having mixed feelings. I like Pereiro a lot. I'd like to see him win it on his own merits and he's certainly showing his merits now. It would serve the other teams right for not chasing back some of his lead and just *****ing about Phonak letting him go.
But he did get a half hour gift just to be here and you'd kind of have to put a mental asterisk next to his name if he actually won this thing. I guess you sort of have to do that anyway, given all of the top riders pulled, but this would be different. My gut's pulling in both directions on this one and I can't seem to decide. Maybe he should finish on the podium but not first?
-Ray
swoop
07-19-2006, 11:16 PM
as you know, tt-ing is mental and having the jersey on does wonders for the psyche... and not having the jersey on in an early tt does take some motivation out of you.. but .. i'd be surprised. i'd like it to happen.
regardless... this is a fun race.
Avispa
07-19-2006, 11:18 PM
Estimados miembros del forum:
Remember that when Oscar lost the Yellow to Floyd, we was not too far back. Today he rode smart and it paid off, he didn't go all out a lá Rasmussen. So I think he will have the legs to keep things under control tomorrow, "rest" on Friday and then, keeps things in place for the TT.
As for Sastre... He looked like he was pushing it hard today! He looked worse than Floyd, imho. Floyd was hurting, but he didn't grimace as much! By looking at the Tour so far, I doubt if someone is going to have the guts or energy to attack the jersey (in order to move up in GC) tomorrow.
This is what Floyd said: "Looks to me like Klöden has a very good chance; Sastre was also strong today, but it will hard for him to get time tomorrow, because it's not as difficult a stage as it was today. Pereiro was also good today... it will come down to the time trial, I think.
Either way, I think so far we, the fans, are the ones that have won a great show after the long boring years of the past. I hope this will be a precedent to future Tours and Giros and Vueltas. However, I see that more doping busts will happen not too far from now.
Su seguro servidor,
La Avispa ;)
PD
Big Dan, I am not an "expert" I am just adding my crap to the pile of crap here in the forum, ok?
Big Dan
07-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Did you say anything bad about Pereiro the other day?
I don't remember....The "expert" comment included me too... :D
Right after the stage the board was really quiet. I couldn't make sense of it..
Avispa
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Did you say anything bad about Pereiro the other day?
I don't remember....The "expert" comment included me too... :D
Right after the stage the board was really quiet. I couldn't make sense of it..
No man, I could never speak bad of my country men, even though I am now a Gringo... I was just joking with ya! ;)
Climb01742
07-20-2006, 04:53 AM
jerkstrong atmo
one vote for ditching obtuse and going with this. dude, jerk is your brand. never dilute the brand.
Climb01742
07-20-2006, 05:05 AM
ask fignon whether TTing matters.
Hysbrian
07-20-2006, 07:24 AM
I'm having mixed feelings. I like Pereiro a lot. I'd like to see him win it on his own merits and he's certainly showing his merits now. It would serve the other teams right for not chasing back some of his lead and just *****ing about Phonak letting him go.
But he did get a half hour gift just to be here and you'd kind of have to put a mental asterisk next to his name if he actually won this thing. I guess you sort of have to do that anyway, given all of the top riders pulled, but this would be different. My gut's pulling in both directions on this one and I can't seem to decide. Maybe he should finish on the podium but not first?
-Ray
I don't get it. Shouldn't he be comended for taking a chance. If anything Landis and his team should have an asterisk next to their names that says...had the overall, but blew it.
Avispa
07-20-2006, 10:23 AM
....As for Sastre... He looked like he was pushing it hard today! He looked worse than Floyd, imho. Floyd was hurting, but he didn't grimace as much! By looking at the Tour so far, I doubt if someone is going to have the guts or energy to attack the jersey (in order to move up in GC) tomorrow.
OOOPPPSS!!!! That's all I can say....
However, I still say:
Either way, I think so far we, the fans, are the ones that have won a great show after the long boring years of the past. I hope this will be a precedent to future Tours and Giros and Vueltas. However, I see that more doping busts will happen not too far from now.
I don't get it. Shouldn't he be comended for taking a chance. If anything Landis and his team should have an asterisk next to their names that says...had the overall, but blew it.
Well, hey, it's all academic now! I hear what you're saying, but if we forget what happened TODAY for a minute, giving Oscar a half hour had very little to do with Floyd losing the tour and a whole lot to do with Oscar being in a position to win it. Floyd put himself seemingly out of contention and would likely have done the same thing even if they'd chased down Oscar that day. But he'd have been losing his place to a bunch of guys not containing Pereiro.
But now suddenly it may be relevant again - what a friggin' TOUR!
-Ray
Fat Robert
07-22-2006, 10:36 AM
justin, as usual, was right
so was fatso (well...he was ignorant but lucky)
kloden took the time out that i thought he would...and we know who took the whole shebang...and one guy who recovers very well hung tough...awesome....
kick butt at tuna, js!
catulle
07-22-2006, 10:48 AM
... that after three weeks of racing, it really matters if You are a good time trialist or not? Just LOOK at how Periero pedaled today! IMHO he has the goods for the Yellow. His recovery seems superior to the others.
Fstrthnu
WORD...!
shinomaster
07-22-2006, 11:58 AM
I think It matters...most of the great winners like Indurain, Lemond, Armstong, Floyd etc are/were ace TT masters. I suppose they all recover well, as well.
Grant McLean
07-22-2006, 12:15 PM
I think It matters...most of the great winners like Indurain, Lemond, Armstong, Floyd etc are/were ace TT masters.
I think this misses the point/spirit of the comments made by fstrthnu.
For a guy who isn't a tt specialist, and really just gave it his best shot,
Pereiro gave the smackdown in a TT to about a 137 guys today, including
Lang, Zabriskie, Eki, and Evans, and they're pretty good TT guys.
I think that's what fstrthnu meant.
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Vanilla Gorilla
07-22-2006, 07:22 PM
He actually had a reason to race for something.
fstrthnu
07-22-2006, 10:27 PM
I think this misses the point/spirit of the comments made by fstrthnu.
For a guy who isn't a tt specialist, and really just gave it his best shot,
Pereiro gave the smackdown in a TT to about a 137 guys today, including
Lang, Zabriskie, Eki, and Evans, and they're pretty good TT guys.
I think that's what fstrthnu meant.
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And Cunego. He got the white jersey when He normally would lose a TT to Fothen by minutes. AWESOME ride!
Fstrthnu
yeehawfactor
07-22-2006, 10:35 PM
cunego <3
stevep
07-23-2006, 08:29 AM
ask fignon whether TTing matters.
twice a fool.
remember that fignon lost the 84 giro on the last day in a tt to moser....same as the tour to lemond. he had over 2 minutes in hand and moser rolled out his aero bike and maybe had a little help from the italian helicopters...who knows... but he smoked fignon and won the event by a lot.
fignon lived through a last day disaster twice during his storied career.
he must have forgotten the giro when he started the tt during the 89 tour.
it should be noted that nobody, nobody remotely believed that lemond could take that kind of time out of fignon in what was a very, very short tt. was almost not believeable....still is one of the most remakable rides in the history of the tour...maybe now mirrored by floyd landis' reply to his disastrous alpine stage in 2006.
Grant McLean
07-23-2006, 09:39 AM
And Cunego. He got the white jersey when He normally would lose a TT to Fothen by minutes. AWESOME ride!
Fstrthnu
That was awesome.
I met Damiano at interbike when cannondale brought him over after
winning the Giro. Seeing him off the bike, that guy is tiny!
I don't know why his legs look so huge on tv, when you're standing there
with him, he looks like you could snap him in half.
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