ETAP And Mixing Components

[kitsnob]

Alrightey, no holds barred and no opinion too strong. I'm a big boy and can take it (kitting up in flame retardant kit as I type)

Currently running 10 speed DI2 Ultegra (6770) with Dura Ace crank and brake calipers (7900/7950). Originally thought of going to Dura Ace 11 speed but the cost is almost the same as going to ETap (the dark side :)).

I like the clean look of NO WIRES and the ergonomics of the levers is similar. Not too keen on the look of the Sram Red crank but I really like the look of the Dura Ace 9000 crank and the Red calipers are nasty looking and have limited adjustability.

Now, the big questions:

IF I do Etap, how would it look (I know how it will perform) if I put a Dura Ace (9000) crank, keep the Dura Ace brake calipers and do what basically equates to a Dura Ace transmission (Crank, chain & cassette)
Do the rules and the Velominati allow a "mix & match" of components?
Would you care?
Would you do the same thing?
What combination would you use?

Thanks for reading/responding and flame away if you deem necessary! :eek:

[mwynne]

Do it unless the performance suffers! Have definitely seen some mix and match, I think posted here. (On phone or I'd check)

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[reggiebaseball]

11 speed is 11 speed, as far as I know,

the thing you had to worry about mixing (lever pull ratios for shifters) are moot because you are eTapping.

Use what you got, that sounds good.

[dustyrider]

If you build it, they will come!

[Andy sti]

Would the brakes work as well with SRAM levers? Don't know if there are different pull ratio things.

[reggiebaseball]

Would the brakes work as well with SRAM levers? Don't know if there are different pull ratio things.

not ideally
http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/02/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/394512_394512

I love these brakes:
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;product=17063;menu=1000,4,320,321; mid=0;pgc=0;page=15;orderby=2

[bcroslin]

not ideally
http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/02/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/394512_394512

I love these brakes:
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;product=17063;menu=1000,4,320,321; mid=0;pgc=0;page=15;orderby=2

Do you have experience with those brakes? Are they made by Fouriers?

http://www.fouriers-bike.com/en/pro.php?m=d&pid=13&cid=10&f=2

[reggiebaseball]

Do you have experience with those brakes? Are they made by Fouriers?

http://www.fouriers-bike.com/en/pro.php?m=d&pid=13&cid=10&f=2

Ten years ago they were called "feather brakes"
Six years ago they were called "Planet X CNC Brakes"
They are made in Taiwan, CNC, single pivot.

They weight 185 grams without pads, which is insanely light, if you care about that. They look nice, unlike many lightweight calipers which I find fugly.

I like them because they are nice single pivot brakes, I find dual pivot brakes have too much stopping power and I prefer a lighter action single pivot. They are strong and good brakes, not a "compromise" like some ultra light brakes with poor stopping power,

I have not seen them marketed as Fouriers before.

[SoCalSteve]

Would the brakes work as well with SRAM levers? Don't know if there are different pull ratio things.

They do, no performance issues. Don't care what Zinn says, they work fine.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=192025

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=192026

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=193700

[reggiebaseball]

They do, no performance issues. Don't care what Zinn says, they work fine.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=192025

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=192026

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=193700
Zinn is a dope in general, mea culpa.

[oldpotatoe]

Zinn is a dope in general, mea culpa.

That's not quite fair, IMHO. I know him well and he tests a ton of stuff and often measures to an 'ideal'. I dont agree with some of what he says or does either but a 'dope' he is not.

As for the OP, sure, if ya gotta have the etap stuff, I think the best choice would be to use etap shifters/derailleurs and shimano or even Campag, all else. Except brake calipers...the far superior, QR in lever, design not great with non Campag, levers...shimano brakes are excellent...even down to 5800.

But how does it look? Some of the tools in my tool box, one with a yellow handle, doesn't look great with the one with a green handle but they both work great....:D:):eek:

[ripvanrando]

How will it look?

I have one bike with 9000 Dura Ace crank, Rotor QXL rings, SRAM Red 22 rear derailleur and shifter, Ultegra FD and shifter, Frog pedals, 2016 Cervelo S3 frame, TT bars, Brooks B17 saddle, 60 mm carbon rims, and Tri-Rig brakes.

I think your configuration sounds pure as white snow.

[sonicCows]

*

[Joxster]

The Velominati are a bunch of bearded f*ckwits that spend all their time drinking coffee and not going near a bike, so don't give a toss what they think. If you like it, it looks good and works* then go for it.





*It is SRAM you're talking so you pays your money and you takes your chance ;) ;)

[SoCalSteve]

That's not quite fair, IMHO. I know him well and he tests a ton of stuff and often measures to an 'ideal'. I dont agree with some of what he says or does either but a 'dope' he is not.

As for the OP, sure, if ya gotta have the etap stuff, I think the best choice would be to use etap shifters/derailleurs and shimano or even Campag, all else. Except brake calipers...the far superior, QR in lever, design not great with non Campag, levers...shimano brakes are excellent...even down to 5800.

But how does it look? Some of the tools in my tool box, one with a yellow handle, doesn't look great with the one with a green handle but they both work great....:D:):eek:

SRAM really messed up on the aesthetics of their Red 22 brakeset. Or, actually, they never changed the aesthetics when they changed to their Etap group ( and newest Red 22 ). Cranks match the shifters and derailleurs, brakes don't.

The Red brakes look very similar to the 9000 series and they are much fussier to set up. Btw, in a blind taste test, you could NEVER tell them apart in modulation or performance.

Seriously makes no sense why they didn't change the look to ( all black ) of the brakes to match the rest of their new group...:confused::confused::confused:

[beeatnik]

D, it'll look like caca. Don't do it. The dudes at cycle de pro will never give you a free coffee. trust.

[FlashUNC]

I'd say its no problem if that weren't the ugliest generation of Shimano parts ever.