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AngryScientist
09-07-2016, 10:37 AM
my carbon bike has a rather short seat tube due to small size and compact geometry. it would be beneficial if i could get the seat tube bottle cage a little lower to facilitate pulling bottles in/out. i notice that the mandible cages have an additional set of holes for mounting - does this allow a lower mounting position? anyone familiar ?

bike:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lnBnMorcKhc/V5tMpn1jn4I/AAAAAAAACiA/k76GvcWxMn8Us0XEZcLU4ghHSA09EcQEgCLcB/s940/IMG_1646.JPG


http://www.arundelbike.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/UniWeave-Matte.jpg

ColonelJLloyd
09-07-2016, 10:44 AM
The two pairs of holes are equally spaced so it would seem so.

I just bought a couple of these (http://mswbike.com/products/pc-120-up-or-down-bottle-cage)which allowed me to bottom the ST cage out and then bottom the DT cage down to the ST bottle. Useful. 44g.

icepick_trotsky
09-07-2016, 10:51 AM
Have you considered the Arundel sideloader?

http://www.arundelbike.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/UniWeave-Matte-1SL.jpg

R3awak3n
09-07-2016, 10:52 AM
what about getting an arundel side loader bottle? it was made for compact framesets :)

http://www.artscyclery.com/descpage-ASLMBCC.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svbGk2dKhB6GfME46nDn1BHpYZf Sb8oXMAFg9CTevXNkaAlaH8P8HAQ

edit: trotsky beat me to it :)

lhuerta
09-07-2016, 10:57 AM
- does this allow a lower mounting position? anyone familiar ?


YES, the upper holes will allow for lower mounting position. However, given the tiny front triangle of your frame and the vise-like grip of the Mandibles, u might still find it challenging to insert/remove bottles, even with lower mounting position. Sideloaders might be best solution in your case...

Mark McM
09-07-2016, 10:57 AM
Problem Solvers cage height adapters:

https://www.universalcycles.com/images//products/large/83150.jpg



Topeak X-15 swiveling cage adapter:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31QPN2S0P2L.jpg



Alternatively, there are a number of side entry water bottle cages such as this:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/611H%2Bfl0M7L._SY355_.jpg

AngryScientist
09-07-2016, 11:07 AM
interesting. i'm using the arundel dave-o cages now, and they flex plenty enough to get the bottles in and out without an issue, but i'm limited to a small bottle on the seat tube.

those problem solvers adapters are a thought.

chiasticon
09-07-2016, 11:20 AM
I ride a slightly larger bike but with a frame pump in there, and with larger bottles, sometimes it gets tight getting the seat tube bottle in/out. but it's part of my habit now to just swap bottles once the down tube one is empty. so I'm only ever drinking out of that while riding.

won't help you get a large size bottle into yours, but it's simple and worth considering for shorter rides or until you get a better solution.

shovelhd
09-07-2016, 11:39 AM
I have the Dave-O, and use the Sideloader version on my seat tube. Works fine with tall bottles on a 54cm semi compact frame. I can't really use the drop adapters as the bottle would be too close to the Di2 FD.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l453/shovelfl/bikeforums/bottles_zps3fp80ecn.jpg

MaraudingWalrus
09-07-2016, 12:06 PM
even better than the arundel side loader is the arundel otherside loader.

Mark McM
09-07-2016, 12:20 PM
I have the Dave-O, and use the Sideloader version on my seat tube. Works fine with tall bottles on a 54cm semi compact frame. I can't really use the drop adapters as the bottle would be too close to the Di2 FD.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l453/shovelfl/bikeforums/bottles_zps3fp80ecn.jpg

What's the issue with bottle being close to the Di2 FD? It looks like even with the side loading cages, there would still be plenty of clearance for bottles to go in and out.

ptourkin
09-07-2016, 12:58 PM
In addition to the Problem Solvers version above, there's a Shimano part for the first gen Di2 that moved the cage up or down to fit the battery. I use this with a side loader when my clearance is limited by a frame pack in endurance racing.