shifter cable barrel adjusters

[old_fat_and_slow]

OK,

I'm just now entering the 21st century and trying to build my first crab-on fiber frame (Look 585).

I'm perplexed about how to install barrel adjuster for the shifter cables. There is no threaded insert on the downtube or on the headtube for installing traditional cable stops. (Think of an old-school frame that has down tube shifter bosses. There is a female threaded hole for you to attach Campy or Shimano cable stops and adjusters.) On the Look, there are cable stops on both the down tube and the head tube, but no threaded inserts to install an old style barrel adjuster.

What small part do I need in order to install a shifter cable barrel adjuster? Is it not possible with newer frames, and all adjustments have to be made at the respective derailleur?

thanks in advance for any help you can provide an old duffer.

[chairmandave]

Inline cable adjuster: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=49401

https://sunsetpdx.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_5318.jpg

[gaucho753]

As suggested above, I think in-line adjusters are going to be your best option.

Fyi, you may find this old Look 585 review helpful. It shows several close ups of the shift cable routing (without adjusters, so adjustments would have to be made at the derailleur):
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/technspec/pez-test-looks-585-climbo-sprinter/#.V7-P2ZMrKRs

[Peter P.]

My custom steel frame has a similar setup. Since the rear derailleur already has a built-in cable adjuster, I only have an in-line adjuster for the front derailleur.

[kramnnim]

On my Look, I put mine between the head tube guides and the stops. There's a short little piece of housing between the stop and the adjuster.

[dave thompson]

No, no ability to have your adjusters on the frame. I did a lot a internet searching when I bought my 585 and turned up nada. Inline adjusters are the answer.

[jc031699]

May be able to use these at the cable stop
http://jagwire.com/products/small-parts/direct-adjusters?products/v/Rocket_Adjusters

[Dead Man]

Are you sure you need them? I haven't put inline adjusters on my last 3-4 builds, and have never needed them.. rear der has it's own, front doesn't ever seem to go out

Just my own experience

[ColonelJLloyd]

^ agreed

[Jeff N.]

That bugs me no end how some builders (Crumpton for example) chose to not have cable barrel adjusters on their frames. They're probably not all that necessary but they CAN sometimes make initial setup a bit easier...they're just one of those things that're better to have than not. I'd leave the in-liners off...I think they're butt-ugly. Just adjust the best you can with plain cables. You should be OK using trial and error.

[dave thompson]

May be able to use these at the cable stop
http://jagwire.com/products/small-parts/direct-adjusters?products/v/Rocket_Adjusters

They don't fit, too large.

[steelbikerider]

If you are using the last 2 generations of Shimano you will need an inline adjuster for at least the front. Mine fits just in front of the headtube and is hidden from my view by the stem. I couldn't get my 9000 FD or 7900 FD just perfect without one. i didn't need one on the rear since you can adjust tension at the derailler.
These are small and not very noticiable
http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=8&description=Pro+Inline+Cable+Tension+Adjusters&vendorCode=JAGWIRE&major=1&minor=9

[peanutgallery]

11 speed, they are crucial to be able to adjust the front der. Cable tension is key

Are you sure you need them? I haven't put inline adjusters on my last 3-4 builds, and have never needed them.. rear der has it's own, front doesn't ever seem to go out

Just my own experience

[Dead Man]

11 speed, they are crucial to be able to adjust the front der. Cable tension is key

I'm rollin' 9000 bru. No adjusters, no problems.

[oldpotatoe]

OK,

I'm just now entering the 21st century and trying to build my first crab-on fiber frame (Look 585).

I'm perplexed about how to install barrel adjuster for the shifter cables. There is no threaded insert on the downtube or on the headtube for installing traditional cable stops. (Think of an old-school frame that has down tube shifter bosses. There is a female threaded hole for you to attach Campy or Shimano cable stops and adjusters.) On the Look, there are cable stops on both the down tube and the head tube, but no threaded inserts to install an old style barrel adjuster.

What small part do I need in order to install a shifter cable barrel adjuster? Is it not possible with newer frames, and all adjustments have to be made at the respective derailleur?

thanks in advance for any help you can provide an old duffer.

Properly adjusted derailleurs need a barrel adjuster only at the rear der. Adjust well and no need to adjust 'on the fly'. IMHO.

The ONLY exception, IMHO, is 11s shimano which 'need' a barrel adjuster..so use an inline one for those. The latest gen DA 9100 and probably ultegra and 105 will have this front der design also(integrated adjuster in the derailleur).

[ColonelJLloyd]

I'm rollin' 9000 bru. No adjusters, no problems.

I'm running a SRAM XX front on an 11s setup. Best shifting FD and crank combo I have ever experienced. No cable adjuster at all for the front either.