OT: Ryan Lochte

[djg21]

His story about being assaulted doesn't hold up, but what gives here?
Is this just a bunch of self-entitled ugly Americans? A drug deal gone bad? Perhaps something more prurient and sordid that the swimmers didn't want disclosed? There go all the endorsement deals.

Ryan Lochte and three other US Olympic swimmers lied about being robbed at gunpoint to cover up a brawl they had with a gas station security guard, authorities said Thursday.

Brazilian authorities have video of a brouhaha involving American swimmers Ryan Lochte, Jack Conger, Gunnar Bentz and Jimmy Feigen and a rent-a-cop, ABC News reported.. http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/lochte-3-us-swimmers-lied-about-robbery-in-rio-report/. More at http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/18/ryan-lochte-us-swimmers-rio-robbery-brazil-gas-station-news-updates-latest

[Mzilliox]

yes, self entitled USA all the way. Something is wrong in this world. Fame is highly overrated

[MattTuck]

yes, self entitled USA all the way. Something is wrong in this world. Fame is highly overrated

Not defend this kind of behavior, if it is true. But, keep in mind that the Brazilians are booing opposing athletes. If you need to see the Olympic spirit exhibited by an American, look no further than Abbey D'Agostino (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/17/abbey-dagostino-tears-acl-5000/88888662/)

[RFC]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Why would they lie about the robbery?

If they did, what are they covering up?

Then, why would they report it to the police instead of just shutting up and walking away?

[ColonelJLloyd]

Then, why would they report it to the police instead of just shutting up and walking away?

I believe from what I have read that they did not report it to the authorities.

[RFC]

I believe from what I have read that they did not report it to the authorities.

OK, even then, why even talk about it. "Oh, I lost my wallet somewhere." Happens all the time.

[djg21]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Why would they lie about the robbery?

If they did, what are they covering up?

Then, why would they report it to the police instead of just shutting up and walking away?

This troubles me too. Something unwholesome had to be going on. Why would Lochte and his companions fight with a security guard at a gas station?

[joep2517]

NYTimes just reported that Brazialian Officials are saying they weren't robbed but instead made up the story after damaging the door at a gas station. If that's true then we have four very stupid people who should have taken responsibility for what they had done. Now their names are tarnished.

[Mzilliox]

This troubles me too. Something unwholesome had to be going on. Why would Lochte and his companions fight with a security guard at a gas station?

right, and since when does a group of dudes go to the bathroom at the same time?;)

[SoCalSteve]

There is definetly a piece of this story missing. I imagine now that the " cat is out of the bag " we will get that piece in the next day or two...

[djg21]

NYTimes just reported that Brazialian Officials are saying they weren't robbed but instead made up the story after damaging the door at a gas station. If that's true then we have four very stupid people who should have taken responsibility for what they had done. Now their names are tarnished.

This sounds like BS too. At least Lochte has means, and I expect that had he broken the door, he could have paid for the damage and that would have been the end of it. And it doesn't really account for him/them falsely reporting a violent robbery.

[ColonelJLloyd]

Yes, I suspect a broken door is not the issue for the group. Surely drugs, prostitutes or some other illegal activity along those lines won't be surprising if it is discovered.

[Macadamia]

Lochte too quick for them, first flight out

[benb]

While it's easy for me to jump on the "stupid entitled athletes" bandwagon I am also pretty suspicious of Brazilian officials with all the talk of corruption and police violence leading up to the Olympics. And then there is the whole thing that these guys are swimmers. They are not football players, they most likely grew up with everyone saying, "that's nice" and not caring at all since they're from the US. It's pretty easy to imagine this starting out as some type of thing where they were forced to give a bribe or something by a crooked guard.

We might never know what really happened.

[cfox]

Go to youtube and look up a few clips from Lochte's short lived Kardashian-esque reality show and it might explain a few things.

[Dave B]

Go to youtube and look up a few clips from Lochte's short lived Kardashian-esque reality show and it might explain a few things.

Haven't seen the show, but i have her he is a immense D-Bag deluxe. Self admitted womanizer, etc.

I do not know much about him other than he wanted to be Phelps and isn't/wasn't. So he became famous for other nonsense.

[denapista]

This story sounded fishy from the beginning.... He was on national TV describing the cocking of the gun and other details that just sounded made up, which he laughed off jokingly.. Lochte is a clown.

Maybe he made the story up to get his name in the news since he's not winning medals left and right. Maybe he made the story up to put shame on Brazil as a whole to smear the reputation of the country, and was possibly advised by someone to do so? Who knows.. I don't understand how he could go on national TV and blatantly lie about Brazil cops robbing him at gunpoint. WOW

They should put him a Brazil jail for a few weeks. Let him live the life he so desperately wants to live (Black man). Non blacks wanna live my life until you really have to face what I have to face on a daily. It's cool to wear gold teeth and date black women and say "Jeeaaaaah" like a rapper, until you have to go to jail like one of us. Brazil jails are no joke!

Side story... My dad (Hard working teacher/printer) was pulled over in his 5 series the other day in Long Beach CA. The cop said he was speeding through a yellow, so he was pulled over. The cop asked my dad if he was on Parole or recently release from Jail/Prison. My dad was laughing when he was asked that... The cop told my dad it wasn't a laughing matter and to keep his hands on the steering wheel.. Do other races get asked if they're fresh from jail or on parole for a traffic violation? Really? The cop wrote a ticket for speeding through a yellow light with no speed indicated. What kind of ticket is speeding though a yellow if not captured with a speed gun? When is it wrong to go through a yellow light? America!

[RFC]

While it's easy for me to jump on the "stupid entitled athletes" bandwagon I am also pretty suspicious of Brazilian officials with all the talk of corruption and police violence leading up to the Olympics. And then there is the whole thing that these guys are swimmers. They are not football players, they most likely grew up with everyone saying, "that's nice" and not caring at all since they're from the US. It's pretty easy to imagine this starting out as some type of thing where they were forced to give a bribe or something by a crooked guard.

We might never know what really happened.

+1. Maybe they did do something wrong. But, given the corrupt nature of Brazilian officials, I would also hold them under suspicion. Who knows, maybe it was real cops who robbed them.

[Climb01742]

Must be some interesting conversations going on between Brazil's justice officials and tourism officials. Yes, many things don't add up about Lochte's story and Brazilian officials have every right to address what I'm sure feels like a mark against their country, particularly during the Olympics. But will pulling athletes off planes and taking passports be remembered longer than a flaky athlete's hole-filled story? Could the optics get worse than the offense? Might there be a less heavy-handed way for officials to deal with this? Not trying to let Lochte off, but is this getting worse, PR-wise and tourism industry-wise, for Brazil? A carrot rather than a stick way to get athletes to cop to a new, more truthful version of events?

[RFC]

Side story... My dad (Hard working teacher/printer) was pulled over in his 5 series the other day in Long Beach CA. The cop said he was speeding through a yellow, so he was pulled over. The cop asked my dad if he was on Parole or recently release from Jail/Prison. My dad was laughing when he was asked that... The cop told my dad it wasn't a laughing matter and to keep his hands on the steering wheel.. Do other races get asked if they're fresh from jail or on parole for a traffic violation? Really? The cop wrote a ticket for speeding through a yellow light with no speed indicated. What kind of ticket is speeding though a yellow if not captured with a speed gun? When is it wrong to go through a yellow light? America!

I'd say it time for a little heart-to-heart talk with the District Attorney. Police departments are getting sued for this type of behavior.

Just waiting for Sheriff Joe to go to jail for contempt.

[Len J]

Video from the gas station.

http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/18/ryan-lochte-robbery-gas-station-video?xid=si_social

[bcroslin]

I have never met Lokte but I know a few people who have and all of them have described him as being a total douche. I gave him the benefit of the doubt until reading the NYT story this morning and now I'm not sure what to think except that they were trying to cover up some bad behavior and Lotke got carried away with the story.

[denapista]

Shout out to Lochte getting on the fastest plane back to the US!

It sounds like they were being douche bag guys in a poverish country, the station owner held his ground and security pulled a gun on the fleeing suspects. Ryan gets back and says they were robbed at gunpoint, to sway the blame of the incident which sounds started by frat boy mentality. Pissing on walls? Really?

[CampyorBust]

A bunch useful idiots that turned out to be a useless idiots.

Men with silver hair :rolleyes:, but Milo Yiannopoulos pulls it off rather well.:D

Want to see a cool Zilian flick? Check out Ciudad Dios (City of God) a cult “cool kids only” flick from more than a decade ago. About life in the favelas of Rio with a damn good soundtrack.

[RFC]

This is Rio. I doubt it's the first time someone peed on the walls.

[denapista]

This is Rio. I doubt it's the first time someone peed on the walls.

Pretty sure a bunch of drunk athletes contributed to the wall pissing activities. When I go to Brazil for the first time, I'll leave my pissing to the toilets like humane people do. Granted I'll piss behind a dumpster or side of a climb in a heart beat.

[raygunner]

A bunch useful idiots that turned out to be a useless idiots.

Men with silver hair :rolleyes:, but Milo Yiannopoulos pulls it off rather well.:D

Want to see a cool Zilian flick? Check out Ciudad Dios (City of God) a cult “cool kids only” flick from more than a decade ago. About life in the favelas of Rio with a damn good soundtrack.

Isn't Milo banned in Rio too?

[CampyorBust]

Isn't Milo banned in Rio too?

I doubt it, but a little leftist safe space country called Twitteria on the other hand...yup they banned him.

Then again after this article....http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/18/rio-olympics-failure-global-elites/
...perhaps.

[benb]

I was expecting that video to show them doing something wrong.. it backs up there story more than the brazillian story. They aren't exactly staggeringly drunk in the video, there is no video of them throwing down, it's just a video of them walking out and apparently getting told to sit on the curb and they comply.

I don't follow any of this stuff to realize he is a giant douche but I will trust the forum wisdom here given the silver hair. :eek:

[raygunner]

I fixed a quote from the article.

"I mean, how else could they pick Rio, which is basically a giant toilet, for the Olympics? Was Chicago booked?"

[denapista]

Bring it back to LA! I remember the LA Olympics in my youth. Committee corruption is taking the games to places not fit to host, and lining the pockets of corruption.

That wouldn't happen in LA. hahaha

[goonster]

The Olympics should be in Greece every four years. Pare it down to some wrestling, marathon and the hoplon dash. The IOC gets to keep the proceeds from whatever figs and onions they can sell in thatched concession huts..

[brownhound]

When is it wrong to go through a yellow light? America!

Not to minimize your father's experience or claim it wasn't racially motivated (assuming that's what you're implying), but...

it is illegal to go through a yellow light in most places in America. Despite the fact that you're unlikely to be ticketed for it - and you could argue selective enforcement, of course - drivers are supposed to stop if the light turns yellow before they enter an intersection. Popular conception applies the rules for yellow lights to red lights.

[denapista]

I don't think the violation was racially motivated... More about the part "Are you on Parole or have you recently been released from Prison" question was racially motivated... My father looks nothing like a criminal and doesn't carry himself that way. He has pictures around his house with Race car legends from his Hand Soap business, and personally knows Roger Penske and people like that... I grew up in Race Car pits (Drags, Indy and ALMS) due to my dads business. Not that a cop pulling a random black man over knows anything about his achievements, all he sees is a skin color and a stereotype around that skin color. If that line of questioning isn't more evident of racism and stereotyping...

For that matter.. What does a criminal really look like? Do we think the Enron Criminals and Mortgage industry criminals wore masks and used weapons? They wore the finest suits and lived lavish lifestyles, and cheated billions from people.

[OtayBW]

According to a press conference by the district chief of police, Lochte et al tore up a gas station bathroom (broken mirror and door, etc.) while pretty drunk and then tried to throw some coin at the store manager. Beyond that, a rent-a-cop was either there or nearby and apparently tried to pull a Barney Fife on them with cocked pistola requesting additional payment for the damages. If true, this is likely where the robbery story comes from.

Seems to me that Mr. Lochte is a real d-bag either way...

[bthornt]

This interview pretty much puts it all in perspective. The morning show hosts are cracking on him at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPftu3oKU8E

[CampyorBust]

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[CampyorBust]

So many to choose from, but just one more if I may, it seems appropriate:D...

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/PedalPusher33/ryan-lochte-1_zpsjjkk6etv.jpg

ROFL :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Ok there is a limit on bananas here? Really?

[beeatnik]

wait, so no Rio trannies in this sordid tale?

[djg21]

Between the lines.


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[Seramount]

sooo, some non-Mensa caliber pool jocks jacked up a gas station bathroom and lied about it...

THIS is an international news story...?

wth...?

[cadence90]

sooo, some non-Mensa....
Coinsidents?

https://images.scribblelive.com/2016/8/13/e53e716d-934b-4ac5-a116-f4f3bddc91e4.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/22/article-0-18D918CC000005DC-314_634x776.jpg

[bikinchris]

His only real defense now is:

Cue Pink Floyd sound bite:

Lochte "I don't know, I was really drunk at the time."

[cadence90]

Wow, it looks like the story might be true after all.








































https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqG7GWUUsAAdfj4.jpg:large

[mosca]

Coinsidents?

https://images.scribblelive.com/2016/8/13/e53e716d-934b-4ac5-a116-f4f3bddc91e4.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/22/article-0-18D918CC000005DC-314_634x776.jpg

Six degrees of minus-seven?

[cadence90]

Six degrees of minus-seven?
:D

:beer:

[beeatnik]

The struggle is real.

[Louis]

"How many gang members do you know who cruise around with a feking Calculus textbook!?!" The female cop rolled her eyes and said to her partner, "we're getting all the whiners tonight."

It would have been even funnier if she had asked you to solve some partial differential equations to prove that you really were taking the class...

[beeatnik]

LAPD slogan in the 90's: America's Proudest Professional With Only High School Diplomas.

[cadence90]

Ryan Che Guelochte t-shirts on sale on the Venice Boardwalk tomorrow AM! :cool:

[benb]

Oh, post-25, I've had zero profiling/harassment stops.

Funny you say that. I don't even know how many times I was pulled over before I turned 25. A LOT. Some (particularly when on a motorcycle) were total bogus stops. Nothing even wrong with my bike to give them a reason to pull me over. I've barely ever been pulled over after I turned 25, and I haven't even so much as gotten a written warning for my driving behavior in almost 16 years now. I am a very well behaved driver these days, but wasn't necessarily in my late 20s and early 30s. I was your habitual speeder but I was the kind that was picking and choosing my times and locations for bad behavior very carefully for safety reasons.

I'm white, I've never even had a beard or long hair or anything.. if they were profiling anything it was looking for young adults, cause these days it feels like I'm invisible to the police.

[shovelhd]

So was this a frat boy coverup, a Rio law enforcement shakedown, or something in between? Film continues to roll at 11.

[RFC]

OK, I'm now convinced. He is a douche bag as well as stupid.

If he would have just gone back to the village and shut up, this would have never been an international story, or even a local one.

[enr1co]

He may have flushed down $ millions in endorsement deals but stay tuned for him on next seasons Dancing w/ Stars , some other worthless reality show or news of him dating one of the Kardashians :rolleyes:

[54ny77]

good thing the world media has this tidbit to distract from stories on the floating bologna sticks.

[CampyorBust]

I think my useless idiot theory is bogus, the fact of the matter is this guy is not playing with all his marbles. He needs to get with this chick ASAP...

https://youtu.be/JtkX3OyPF4Q

I think what really happened can is Mama Lochte grilled her son after he came home late and tipsy, he fed her the bs we got robbed story, she freaked out and started yapping and we are all now very entertained. All looks no brain I think the saying goes.

[SlackMan]

good thing the world media has this tidbit to distract from stories on the floating bologna sticks.

Speaking of the media, here is a link to an interesting article that contains a letter from Dan Rather about the media focus.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/send-ryan-lochte-back-to-rio/

[Fatty]

His story about being assaulted doesn't hold up, but what gives here?
Is this just a bunch of self-entitled ugly Americans? A drug deal gone bad? Perhaps something more prurient and sordid that the swimmers didn't want disclosed? There go all the endorsement deals.

. http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/lochte-3-us-swimmers-lied-about-robbery-in-rio-report/. More at http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/18/ryan-lochte-us-swimmers-rio-robbery-brazil-gas-station-news-updates-latest

I think you said it best right there.

[OtayBW]

OK, I'm now convinced. He is a douche bag as well as stupid.

If he would have just gone back to the village and shut up, this would have never been an international story, or even a local one.
He has always been a douche bag, IMO, and yes - we now confirm that he is also a moron!

[Joxster]

Unfortunately there are good Olympians and bad Olympians, he's neither he is a two faced, **** digging, cock sucking monkey ****er that brings a bad name to Olympians. Three months down the line it'll be what problem in Rio, there was never a problem in Rio. Now stroke my medals.

Olympic medals should have the same testing as Michelin stars, you work hard for them and if you **** up in your private life then you lose them. You'll get better behaved athletes

[MadRocketSci]

It would have been even funnier if she had asked you to solve some partial differential equations to prove that you really were taking the class...

Careful...some cops might be up on that, college boy...

https://vimeo.com/101691769

(film showed to our AP Calc class in HS....we goofed about the poh-leece man for days...and roooolllls theorem)

[mistermo]

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

[OtayBW]

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.He's always been an attention grabbing little pr!ck, IMO. Now, in addition to that, he very likely destroyed, or substantially diminished, what probably would have amounted to very healthy endorsement deals. That is a cut above stupid chitz we all did when we were kids.

[mcteague]

:fight:I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

Lochte is 32, hardly a kid.

Tim

[cadence90]

I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Lochte is 32.
He may not act 32, but he was born 32 years ago.

And I wouldn't say that he is just some "kid" on a "well deserved bender", etc. Who then completely lied about it, by the way.

For better or worse, the guy is an adult, representing himself, his teammates, and his country via an international platform. I think he should know how to conduct himself by now, but he obviously does not.

Edit: Tim beat me to it. Same point.

[gdw]

Who needs endorsements, the kid has the potential to make some real money in Washington.

[echappist]

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

And who among us haven't told a lie that quickly escalated out of control? :rolleyes:

the swimmers being ridiculously talented do not exculpate them from their behaviors at the time, and even more so, the fabrications after the fact.

The who among us trope is also trite and played out. Here, i'll get the ball rolling. How would you like it when a defense attorney plays the "Who amongst us haven't been distracted by a cell phone" card in court, which, i may add, is particularly effective at getting jurors not to convict of more serious vehicular homicide charges.

[krhea]

And who among us haven't told a lie that quickly escalated out of control? :rolleyes:

the swimmers being ridiculously talented do not exculpate them from their behaviors at the time, and even more so, the fabrications after the fact.

The who among us trope is also trite and played out. Here, i'll get the ball rolling. How would you like it when a defense attorney plays the "Who amongst us haven't been distracted by a cell phone" card in court, which, i may add, is particularly effective at getting jurors not to convict of more serious vehicular homicide charges.

Excellent response.

[mistermo]

Apparently, he's a douche. Don't follow swimming, not even slightly.

But I watched this pretty thorough video of what is presumably the entire event, and saw nothing that deserves having a gun pulled, the media scrum, and 5 pages in a cycling forum. As you'd see, Lochte excuses himself and calmly walks away when things get start to get thorny.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/08/19/us-swimmers-rio-gas-station-raw-video-ekr-orig-vstan.cnn

Both sides have waaaay overblown this.

[OtayBW]

^ Though in the end, there is really only one loser....

[cadence90]

^ Though in the end, there is really only one loser....

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http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r654/traghetter/lochte_zpseesvdsfs.jpg (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/traghetter/media/lochte_zpseesvdsfs.jpg.html)
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[pasadena]

Ryan Lochte and his racist sister. The apple doesn't fall far from the Klan hat in that family.

With Lochte and Hope Solo, a pretty spectacular showing of Team USA on the world stage.

[Louis]

Careful...some cops might be up on that, college boy...

(film showed to our AP Calc class in HS....we goofed about the poh-leece man for days...and roooolllls theorem)

Ha!

Next time I'm stopped for some infraction I'll have to ask them about that.

[oldpotatoe]

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

Don't think that's the issue..it's about making this an international incident by saying you were robbed at gun point, in a foreign country, and ending up on multi news feeds..did all the above, drink too much stupid juice, pee on wall, break signs, never lied to cops saying I was robbed at gunpoint(And I HAVE been robbed at gunpoint).

[wallymann]

dp

[bobswire]

Edited out.

[Bradford]

Let's keep this to peeing on walls and swimmers and keep the politics out of it or it will be locked.

[jet sanchez]

Sad!

[CampyorBust]

Edited out.

[DRZRM]

See there was no issue that was unresolved at the gas station. They pissed on a wall and broke something (I thought it was a door, it was perhaps a sign). They got caught, and came to terms with the security guard for ~$50. They got off very light, they could have wound up in a police cell waiting for their lawyers to deal with them while much larger "fines" were negotiated. I lived in Rio for two years and foreigners (especially Americans) are known to have access to wealth that local kids don't. They are more likely to be harassed by police over petty crimes that a bunch of kids from Rio. You have to be careful.

The problem started when Lochte got back and according to CNN "Lochte originally said that he and fellow swimmers were pulled over in their taxi and robbed at gunpoint early Sunday."

To quote CBS news as the story broke. ""According to four members of the U.S. Olympic Swimming Team (Gunnar Bentz, Jack Conger, Jimmy Feigen and Ryan Lochte), they left France House early Sunday morning in a taxi headed for the Olympic Village. Their taxi was stopped by individuals posing as armed police officers who demanded the athletes' money and other personal belongings. All four athletes are safe and cooperating with authorities," the statement reads. Video of Lochte describing his heroics here (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ryan-lochte-robbed-at-gunpoint-rio-olympics-mom-says/).

He said their cab was pulled over and men with badges, claiming to be police, robbed them at gunpoint. This claim, not peeing on the wall at a gas station, is what is at issue. My guess, if he just said they were robbed by strangers, there would have been no police involvement in response to the story.

So, what he did that was so very stupid was not the teen (actually 32-year-old) hijinx of peeing and breaking stuff on a drunken outing, it was making a claim that got the Rio police invested in clearing their reputation. See, there are regular real stories about wildly inappropriate police behavior in Rio, and I'm sure police were on a very short leash during the Olympics.

I think you are focusing on the wrong problematic behavior here.

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

[shovelhd]

Not to mention taking the first flight out of the country and going underground, rather than facing your accusers in person. You know, like a man. He has dug a hole for himself that he may not be able to crawl out of with his bags of cash. We shall see what he says to Matt Lauer tonight.

[shovelhd]

Where is USA Swimming in all this? As an employee of USA Cycling, I wonder what the response would have been if Lochte was a cyclist.

Could one of the mods please delete the politics posts? They are beyond stupid and have no place in this thread or this forum.

[jlwdm]

It worked out pretty well for Brazil as this took the focus away from the British athlete robbed at gun point and the other crimes taking place. Pretty strong direction form British and Australian Olympic teams about the dangers if you leave the Olympic Village - don't wear team gear or take a taxi after dark either.

Jeff

[cadence90]

Where is USA Swimming in all this? As an employee of USA Cycling, I wonder what the response would have been if Lochte was a cyclist.

Could one of the mods please delete the politics posts? They are beyond stupid and have no place in this thread or this forum.

I'm sure that they will all be suspended, in varying degrees.
Feigen has had to pay an $11,000 fine to Brazil; my guess is that Lochte will pay more.
And, his Speedo contract runs out soon. "Dear Mr. Lochte, We have decided to not renew..."

Agree re: the politics posts.

[BobO]

Not to mention taking the first flight out of the country and going underground, rather than facing your accusers in person. You know, like a man. He has dug a hole for himself that he may not be able to crawl out of with his bags of cash. We shall see what he says to Matt Lauer tonight.

Even if he comes clean and says "I lied." The damage to himself is done, he's too toxic for most endorsement campaigns. Maybe he can get a gig on America's Dumbest next to Garrett and Harding. He is gonna be a punchline for many years to come. Deservedly so mind you, but, still sad.

[livingminimal]

Cant read the whole thread, but the whole "saga" reeks of american white male privilege. Sorry, but that's what it is.

Also, tired of people calling him a kid. or saying this is "stupid kids stuff."

He's 32 for ****s sake.

[BobO]

Cant read the whole thread, but the whole "saga" reeks of american white male privilege. Sorry, but that's what it is.

Also, tired of people calling him a kid. or saying this is "stupid kids stuff."

He's 32 for ****s sake.

Give me a break, he acted like a jerk and almost everyone is calling him a jerk for what he did. There is no privelege letting him off the hook or excusing his behavior, any of it. And, considering he is there as a representative of our country, he's an embarrassment.

[livingminimal]

Give me a break, he acted like a jerk and almost everyone is calling him a jerk for what he did. There is no privelege letting him off the hook or excusing his behavior, any of it. And, considering he is there as a representative of our country, he's an embarrassment.

Nothing you're saying has anything to do with what I said.

[BobO]

Nothing you're saying has anything to do with what I said.

I apologize if i misinterpreted your statement, what i read was that Lochte was led to believe there would be no substantive consequences to his actions because he is a white male. Therefore there is little reason to be concerned with those people. Im not saying that he isnt a priveledged jerk, but that crosses many ethinc and gender boundaries and isnt uncommon in high level athletes. In any event it doesnt matter because he's going to be disproportionately punished for these acts of stupidity.

[bluesea]

I've read a couple accounts where the story actually first went public, when Lochte told it to his mother, who then posted it on social media. Is this correct?

[djg21]

Give me a break, he acted like a jerk and almost everyone is calling him a jerk for what he did. There is no privelege letting him off the hook or excusing his behavior, any of it. And, considering he is there as a representative of our country, he's an embarrassment.

There is a certain self-entitlement that goes along in many cases with being an elite athlete. That is what he displayed, but his story didn't hold up to scrutiny. If his story was not so ludicrous from the start, he would have gotten off and likely been a hero.

[shovelhd]

Lochte is a lying piece of ****.

[54ny77]

Exactly.

Not excusing Lochte for what he & his pals did, but you gotta figure somewhere high up the media food chain there is a directive to not report on bad stuff and instead focus on the games and whatever low hanging stupid fruit comes along. Stuff like this, for example.

Gotta keep the low information masses happy, lift up the rug, brush things under.

It worked out pretty well for Brazil as this took the focus away from the British athlete robbed at gun point and the other crimes taking place. Pretty strong direction form British and Australian Olympic teams about the dangers if you leave the Olympic Village - don't wear team gear or take a taxi after dark either.

Jeff

[beeatnik]

Ryan Lochte has a hot bod!

[Bruce K]

Careful there, beeatnik

BK

[cadence90]

Careful there, beeatnik

BK
Thank you, BK.

[Rueda Tropical]

I know nothing about any of these guys except that they trained their asses off for more than a decade, made it to the Olympics, medaled, then decided to go on a well deserved bender. Then, while intoxicated, they pissed in an alley behind a gas station. Who among us hasn't done this? Then they beat up a stupid cardboard sign. Hardly a big deal.

Seems to me that is waaaaaay overblown by everyone. I did stupid $hit when I was ~20ish too.

Who among us hasn't pissed behind a gas station at some time in their life? Who among us hasn't done something even MORE stupid that destroying a cardboard sign while intoxed. This hardly deserves having a gun pointed at ones head, while sitting in a car waiting to leave.

This would have been just a night out that nobody ever knew about. Something they would have recounted for laughs to friends.

But 32 year old "kid" Lochte had to tell an outrageously ludicrous lie to his mommy to cover for his behavior. Really? a 32 year old man telling a whopper to mom about what he did last night? Then outraged mom blabbed to the press about how her baby was mistreated.

Then Lochte somehow convinces his buddies to go along with a ridiculous story where he is the hero and Brazilian cops are criminals. No one among that crew of geniuses would have guessed that that plan would have ended badly?

Lochte not only trashed his hosts in Brazil, he screwed his "friends" and left them holding the bag. Not really feeling sorry for this jerk. Maybe he can get together with Lance for a few beers and they can commiserate about how they have been so unfairly treated:)

[oldpotatoe]

This would have been just a night out that nobody ever knew about. Something they would have recounted for laughs to friends.

But 32 year old "kid" Lochte had to tell an outrageously ludicrous lie to his mommy to cover for his behavior. Really? a 32 year old man telling a whopper to mom about what he did last night? Then outraged mom blabbed to the press about how her baby was mistreated.

Then Lochte somehow convinces his buddies to go along with a ridiculous story where he is the hero and Brazilian cops are criminals. No one among that crew of geniuses would have guessed that that plan would have ended badly?

Lochte not only trashed his hosts in Brazil, he screwed his "friends" and left them holding the bag. Not really feeling sorry for this jerk. Maybe he can get together with Lance for a few beers and they can commiserate about how they have been so unfairly treated:)

Young ryan..must be quite a family..spoiled...brat

[Rueda Tropical]

Young ryan..must be quite a family..spoiled...brat

Sad thing is if he had just said something along the lines of "hey we got drunk celebrating this great Olympics and might have gotten a little out of line - our hosts have been great, blah, blah, blah" The Brazilians, the media, and everyone else would have totally given them a pass.

This was a nothing burger that Lochte turned into a disaster and he dragged a bunch of his teammates into his stupidity to boot. Brilliant.

[pdmtong]

Olympic athletes must not receive media and behavior coaching or if received it was laughed off and ignored.

Lauer asked him point blank and he had plenty of opportunities to just admit it but each response only dug his hole deeper. I tried not to watch it but got sucked in waiting for the 4x400

Clearly the guy is not very bright and each time he opens his mouth he makes his situation worse. That is a talent of sorts.

[OtayBW]

Sad thing is if he had just said something along the lines of "hey we got drunk celebrating this great Olympics and might have gotten a little out of line - our hosts have been great, blah, blah, blah" The Brazilians, the media, and everyone else would have totally given them a pass.

This was a nothing burger that Lochte turned into a disaster and he dragged a bunch of his teammates into his stupidity to boot. Brilliant.
Of course. He's a douche.....and did I mention also a moron?

[Red Tornado]

Don't think that's the issue..it's about making this an international incident by saying you were robbed at gun point, in a foreign country, and ending up on multi news feeds..did all the above, drink too much stupid juice, pee on wall, break signs, never lied to cops saying I was robbed at gunpoint(And I HAVE been robbed at gunpoint).

+1

Also, the guy is 32. He's a grown a$$ man -- ACT LIKE IT. You're representing not only yourself but also your country, whether you like/agree with it or not.

Treat the host country with respect and show some class. Give your country a reason to be proud of you. Take the high road. Very simple concepts here, but unfortunately ones that seemingly less people are able to grasp IMHO.

Made my own share of bad decisions, but try to learn from them, and if on an international stage I would like to believe I would think twice and act once. I refuse to give the guy a pass. Yes, we've all made bad decisions but that does not give others reason to do the same. We're talking about him, not us. Doesn't matter how many other people are speeding; cop clocks my car, I get the ticket. I don't get off in court just because other were speeding too.

If he & the boys would have conducted themselves in an appropriate manner, this thread would not exist and he would be one of the "hero's".

[fuzzalow]

Lochte: stupidity and conceit. A lethal combination.

[djg21]

Lochte: stupidity and conceit. A lethal combination.

Saw this elsewhere.

[Seramount]

just your basic douchebag jock...

high school was full of these clowns.

[fuzzalow]

Saw this elsewhere.

This guy put out a recording?! Wow! A rock star too! This guy knows no bounds.

I now go to bed each night wishing I coulda been born as him instead of me. And I bet he knows we all wish that too. ;)

[Corso]

The biggest non-apology apology ever. Fn Liar, this Douchbag is ready for politics. J’har indeed!

[Bruce K]

As much as I would personally like this thread to die out, there are now reports in USA Today that Lochte and the boys may have, in fact thought they were (or actually were) being robbed by the security guards with the guns and according to at least one Brazilian attorney they interviewed, may not have filed a false police report under Brazilian law.

They are certainly a bunch of idiots for putting themselves in the position in the first place. It's the Olympics, you are a guest, and a prominent one at that. You know there are already issues with going out at night so you go out and get drunk and return late.....

He's proven himself to be an idiot before and by all accounts he's a jerk. But there may not be a clear picture yet of exactly what happened that night.

They certainly deserve sanctions by USOC but it would be nice if we could figure out the truth first.

:crap::crap::crap::crap:

BK

[unterhausen]

I don't really want to defend these athletes, because I have always hated how athletic stardom excuses all sorts of criminal and dispersible behavior -- after all, I live in an area that is a showcase for exactly how bad that problem can get and it makes me sick.

However, I have thought for a couple of days that they probably did feel like they were being robbed. From their perspective, they settled their debts with the gas station guy and then get pulled out of their cab at gunpoint and hit up for money. The relationship between the two events is a lot more obvious to a dispassionate observer who doesn't have a gun pointed at them in a country where this is known to happen. In fact, a reasonable interpretation is that this was, in fact, a robbery. Vigilante justice at best.

[djg21]

http://nypost.com/2016/08/22/speedo-drops-ryan-lochte/

Speedo drops sponsorship of Olympian Ryan Lochte, donating $50,000 portion of Lochte’s fee to children in Brazil.

[Rueda Tropical]

I don't really want to defend these athletes, because I have always hated how athletic stardom excuses all sorts of criminal and dispersible behavior -- after all, I live in an area that is a showcase for exactly how bad that problem can get and it makes me sick.

However, I have thought for a couple of days that they probably did feel like they were being robbed. From their perspective, they settled their debts with the gas station guy and then get pulled out of their cab at gunpoint and hit up for money. The relationship between the two events is a lot more obvious to a dispassionate observer who doesn't have a gun pointed at them in a country where this is known to happen. In fact, a reasonable interpretation is that this was, in fact, a robbery. Vigilante justice at best.

If that had been Florida the guard would have stood his ground and shot them - well maybe not that bunch, but if they were a bit darker it would not have ended as well in some places in the USA as it did in Brazil.

No one really cares that a couple of athletes got drunk and behaved like jackasses, getting themselves into a possibly scary situation with the local rent-a-cops.

It was the outrageous lie that implicated the Brazilian authorities that turned nothing into something disastrous for them - not their behavior in the gas station.

[93legendti]

As much as I would personally like this thread to die out, there are now reports in USA Today that Lochte and the boys may have, in fact thought they were (or actually were) being robbed by the security guards with the guns and according to at least one Brazilian attorney they interviewed, may not have filed a false police report under Brazilian law.

They are certainly a bunch of idiots for putting themselves in the position in the first place. It's the Olympics, you are a guest, and a prominent one at that. You know there are already issues with going out at night so you go out and get drunk and return late.....

He's proven himself to be an idiot before and by all accounts he's a jerk. But there may not be a clear picture yet of exactly what happened that night.

They certainly deserve sanctions by USOC but it would be nice if we could figure out the truth first.

:crap::crap::crap::crap:

BK
Here is the link:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/

[djg21]

He may have flushed down $ millions in endorsement deals but stay tuned for him on next seasons Dancing w/ Stars , some other worthless reality show or news of him dating one of the Kardashians :rolleyes:

After weeks of speculation, the disgraced swimmer will compete on the upcoming season of “Dancing with the Stars,” which was announced Tuesday on “Good Morning America.”http://pagesix.com/2016/08/30/ryan-lochte-joins-dancing-with-the-stars/?_ga=1.164697404.201183788.1472250017