View Full Version : Interesting tube from Schwalbe

03-23-2016, 12:43 AM
Can not be used with rim brakes. This might be the a great back-up tube for those of us that ride tubeless, much less weight!

Review on pinkbike

03-23-2016, 01:42 AM
Definitely interesting.
But 20 euros!
Wonder how the durability compares against latex and butyl, particularly tear and abrasion resistance.

03-23-2016, 01:53 AM
Will totally use this as a back-up tube on my tubeless mountain bike, and that's where I see the real market for this. Are any racers really still running tubes? Genuine question, I don't see myself ever going back for dirt riding.

03-23-2016, 02:57 AM
I'm going to try and get a couple of these. I heard about them, but thought they only came in the 26" size. Plastic tubes make a lot of sense now that most bikes are moving to disc brakes.

Dave B
03-23-2016, 07:22 AM
Are these like the FOSS tubes? They seem to be "like" them in theory. I am sure they are wildly different, but the similarity is there from what I am reading. Using a lighter to "patch melt" the tube is kind of cool. Not sure it is as safe as a patch, but if it did work carrying a lighter to fix a flat is a fun idea. Very MacGuyver-like




Tony T
03-23-2016, 08:01 AM
Only available for mountain bikes?
Didn't realize they were weight weenies.

03-23-2016, 08:11 AM
Maybe the small 29 size would work for a gravel grinder with discs?

Tony T
03-23-2016, 08:19 AM
Why would a gravel grinder be concerned with saving weight in the tubes?
This would be an interesting tube if it wasn't susceptible to failure from heat.

03-23-2016, 09:28 AM
So... the selling point is weight savings? And not a word on rolling resistance?

I don't get it.

03-23-2016, 09:30 AM
Are these just rebranded Foss tubes? They look extremely similar. Foss makes tubes for all sizes and a pinch flat can be "fixed" with a lighter.

edit: ah, Mr. President beat me to it.

03-23-2016, 09:40 AM
Further investigation shows that the materials between Foss and Schwalbe are different. Schwalbe Evotube use BASF Aerothan as the material, which cannot be used on a bike with rim brakes according to this article (http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/production-to-start-on-schwalbe-s-thermoplastic-inner-tube/018702).

The Schwalbe tube is also seemingly lighter than the Foss tube. Foss is ~60g for a 700x23-26mm tube, whereas Schwalbe is 76g for a 29er tube.

03-23-2016, 10:04 AM
So... the selling point is weight savings? And not a word on rolling resistance?

I don't get it.

Excellent point; this really is consideration #1, right?

03-23-2016, 10:35 AM
I don't get it for MTBs. I haven't had a tube in my mountain bike in 10 years.

I can maybe see it for a disc-equipped gravel grinder type bike. But for MTB where tubeless has long been the standard I can't see the benefit of a super expensive tube.

03-23-2016, 11:16 AM
I wonder how durable that valve attachment area is- as a spare it would ban to be folded in my pocket.

Mark McM
03-23-2016, 11:19 AM
Butyl tubes are sometimes known to fail on bike kept inside cars on hot, sunny days. How will these fair in a hot car?