Skewers that mate well with Breezers?

[ANAO]

All the skewers I try knock into the dropouts.

What do you guys use?

[AngryScientist]

have you tried salsa skewers, they're up pretty high?

[ANAO]

have you tried salsa skewers, they're up pretty high?

I have a pair of those (titanium!) that I use with my race wheels and they're good. They do clear. Wondering what other options are out there.

I like the look of my classic campy ones (similar to the new Dura-Ace ones)...but you need to be careful when swapping wheels.

[sandyrs]

The best solution I've seen is to use a classic external cam like Dura Ace and angle it parallel with the stay, like this but slightly more horizontal:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dp4KOUeGLhA/SwIDtE3YQyI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/fSD71pxovp4/s1600/_MG_0191.jpg

[ANAO]

The best solution I've seen is to use a classic external cam like Dura Ace and angle it parallel with the stay, like this but slightly more horizontal:


That is the design I prefer. Tightening by spinning the left side, however, is impossible.

[Lewis Moon]

The best solution I've seen is to use a classic external cam like Dura Ace and angle it parallel with the stay, like this but slightly more horizontal:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dp4KOUeGLhA/SwIDtE3YQyI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/fSD71pxovp4/s1600/_MG_0191.jpg

This is, by far, the best solution.

[old fat man]

This, along with trailer incompatibility is my number one reason for hating Breezer style dropouts.

[Climb01742]

Breezer style drop outs are a pain in the arse.

[Fatty]

http://cdn3.volusion.com/n9g24.e5uwf/v/vspfiles/photos/Halo-HUHAQHXK-2.jpg?1442912749

[Mark McM]

That is the design I prefer. Tightening by spinning the left side, however, is impossible.

Then adjust it by turning the right side (skewer nut)? I've used traditional internal cam QR skewers on Breezer type dropouts for years with no problem or inconvenience.

[apple]

I've been using external cam ones. Haven't found a solution that allows for proper positioning of the skewer bisecting the seatstay and chainstay with breezer dropouts though. I do like was suggested above, have the handle parallel with the bottom of the chainstay. I hate breezer dropouts.

[Ryun]

I use the black campy ones that come on boras neutrons etc.
Seem to work well

[Lewis Moon]

How 'bout the ratcheting DT skewers? They seem to "stand out".

[redir]

I agree they are a PIA too. The Salsa ones do clear though.

[kramnnim]

I wonder if these would "stand out" enough? http://www.amazon.com/U-S-E-Tula-Titanium-Wheel-Skewers/dp/B00D1RY6DG

[MaraudingWalrus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/1a112bebadd69a7cea188081c6cf5521.jpg

Could always do something like the control tech skewers. They're not qr, but they're an option.

[MaraudingWalrus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/73e164282ef81365e79905af2599feb9.jpg

They basically turn any wheel into a bolt on.

[ANAO]

I wonder if these would "stand out" enough? http://www.amazon.com/U-S-E-Tula-Titanium-Wheel-Skewers/dp/B00D1RY6DG

Fat chance.

[Bob Ross]

How 'bout the ratcheting DT skewers? They seem to "stand out".

No. I managed to scrape all the paint off the edge of the left breezer using those DT RWS skewers.

Ironically, the best solution I found was another pair of DT skewers...not sure of the model #, they're a conventional cam-type skewer, but the handle forms this lovely graceful arch that clears the breezer dropout like it was designed to do that. I'll see if I can get a pic later.

[ANAO]

No. I managed to scrape all the paint off the edge of the left breezer using those DT RWS skewers.

Ironically, the best solution I found was another pair of DT skewers...not sure of the model #, they're a conventional cam-type skewer, but the handle forms this lovely graceful arch that clears the breezer dropout like it was designed to do that. I'll see if I can get a pic later.

Please do.

Thank you.

[Matthew]

Get some Shimano skewers and use them like a previous poster showed. I have two Moots and do both bikes this way. No problems ever.

[R3awak3n]

maybe tune AC14?

http://fstatic0.mtb-news.de/f/uj/r9/ujr9hdd10fzs/medium_DSC01733.JPG?0

I have a set at home but haven't put the rear one on the bike yet (it has had the trainer skewer all winter), I can check when I get home though.

they are good looking and internal cam as well. expensive though

[Peter P.]

The best solution I've seen is to use a classic external cam like Dura Ace and angle it parallel with the stay, like this but slightly more horizontal:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dp4KOUeGLhA/SwIDtE3YQyI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/fSD71pxovp4/s1600/_MG_0191.jpg

This is what I do with my Breezer-style dropouts. If it didn't work they would have stopped making Breezer dropouts years ago.

[regularguy412]

I'll pile on here with another +1 for the internal cam-type,, such as Shimano. The dropout doesn't really lend itself to quick-change, race-situation wheel changes, but I have come to like the Breezers on my Fondo Ti. Before this bike, I had never owned a bike with this style dropout. The biggest issue I had was not so much with the clamp side, but with the 'nutted' side. If that item is a little too big, there's not much room to get the skewer with the nut on it to slip in between the rear der. mount and the bottom of the dropout cap. The smaller nuts on Dura Ace or Ultegra skewers work fine.

Mike in AR:beer:

[kevintice]

+1 on the Dura Ace skewers.


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[R3awak3n]

This is what I do with my Breezer-style dropouts. If it didn't work they would have stopped making Breezer dropouts years ago.

I do this as well. Some skewers don't go under the frame as much though

[joosttx]

Thuraxle DT Swiss does the trick.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5788/21874628278_e43d1d531b_c.jpg

[PacNW2Ford]

All of these work:

DT Swiss RWS MTB
Shimano RS-81
Campagnolo Record
Shimano Dura-Ace 9000
Paul Components
Deore XT

[Bob Ross]

Please do.

Thank you.



http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/bob_ross4/DT%20Skewer_zpsvuxzaalw.jpg

[oldpotatoe]

All of these work:

DT Swiss RWS MTB
Shimano RS-81
Campagnolo Record
Shimano Dura-Ace 9000
Paul Components
Deore XT

Yup, a lot 'work', just have the lever parallel to the chainstay...not hard.

[ANAO]

Yup, a lot 'work', just have the lever parallel to the chainstay...not hard.

What I'm referring to in particular is the tightening motion done with the left hand, as opposed to the right, for quicker wheel-in/wheel-out scenarios.

[oldpotatoe]

What I'm referring to in particular is the tightening motion done with the left hand, as opposed to the right, for quicker wheel-in/wheel-out scenarios.

I guess it is 'quicker' but that doesn't mean turning the RH knob is 'slow'. Not looking to argue but unless you are looking for the ultimate wheel change during your stage race..I just don't think they are a big deal. IMHO, of course.

Have 'em on my pretty Moots..not a big deal.

[ANAO]

I guess it is 'quicker' but that doesn't mean turning the RH knob is 'slow'. Not looking to argue but unless you are looking for the ultimate wheel change during your stage race..I just don't think they are a big deal. IMHO, of course.

Have 'em on my pretty Moots..not a big deal.

Crit laps are 2 minutes here. 2 minutes is plenty of time if you get a flat AT the wheel pit. But what if you need to run back 500 meters or so...and you only get one free lap?

[R3awak3n]

Yeah they make wheel changes a pita. My spooky has me and I was surprised since to technically a crit bike. What I do I hold the right and with the skewer completely open rotate it, you won't get leverage but works but I agree with you, awful for a race situation.

[AngryScientist]

get a pair of the Hope skewers. Very similar to the salsa ones, which you know clear with one important distinction, a brass bushing. where the salsa uses a plastic piece that wears out, the hope's employ brass, much better design - these are some of my favorite skewers next to campag and shimano. these are probably your best bet.

http://static.jensonusa.com/images/Color-Image/Zoom/0/G0000G2T.jpg

[ANAO]

get a pair of the Hope skewers. Very similar to the salsa ones, which you know clear with one important distinction, a brass bushing. where the salsa uses a plastic piece that wears out, the hope's employ brass, much better design - these are some of my favorite skewers next to campag and shimano. these are probably your best bet.


Cool - they come in blue too :hello:

Now if only they had a ti version...

[Mark McM]

Crit laps are 2 minutes here. 2 minutes is plenty of time if you get a flat AT the wheel pit. But what if you need to run back 500 meters or so...and you only get one free lap?

Well, firstly, you can't never go backwards on a crit course - running or not. You have to continue around the course to the pit (although cutting across the course is sometimes allowed).

And secondly at two minutes a lap, that gives you a total of 4 minutes to get around the course to the pit, and then change your wheel. I've had flat tires (and other mechanical problems) very shortly after the pit in criteriums, and I've never had a problem getting all the way around the course and then getting a wheel change within the time available for a free lap. (And, by the way, my bike has Breezer style dropouts).

[ANAO]

Well, firstly, you can't never go backwards on a crit course - running or not. You have to continue around the course to the pit (although cutting across the course is sometimes allowed).

And secondly at two minutes a lap, that gives you a total of 4 minutes to get around the course to the pit, and then change your wheel. I've had flat tires (and other mechanical problems) very shortly after the pit in criteriums, and I've never had a problem getting all the way around the course and then getting a wheel change within the time available for a free lap. (And, by the way, my bike has Breezer style dropouts).

Then you, my friend are the perfect specimen: which skewers are you using?

I'm not saying there are skewers that won't work, or will take longer to get in. I'm saying that in the situation, the last thing I'm worried about is knocking the cam/arm against the paint. Which is what I do NOT want to happen.

[christian]

I have Breezer drop-outs on one bike. I hate them. I use Campy silver skewers as shown above but it still stinks.

[Mark McM]

Then you, my friend are the perfect specimen: which skewers are you using?

I'm not saying there are skewers that won't work, or will take longer to get in. I'm saying that in the situation, the last thing I'm worried about is knocking the cam/arm against the paint. Which is what I do NOT want to happen.

Using internal cam skewers may take a few extra seconds. The free lap rule has been around for decades, and in my experience, a racer getting a new wheel usually has to wait for more than a few seconds for the pack to come around again to be put back in. I don't see Breezer style dropouts being any concern for criteriums.

[irideti]

I use DA on all my road bikes and XTR on all my mtb. With Breezers drop out or not. They just work.

[ojingoh]

I have a bike with Brrezer style dropouts, Campy skewers work fine, just angle em to fit paralell with the chainstay.

[spacemen3]

FSA Scatto skewers have clearance for Breezer dropouts. I'm not sure they're still made, though.