Colnago V1R and C60

[r_mutt]

Why is there no love for the V1R frame? It seems like a racier version of a traditional Colnago. Is it really that inferior to the C60? Does the fact that it's not made with lugs discount it in the eyes of the traditionalists?

[wallymann]

Does the fact that it's not made with lugs discount it in the eyes of the traditionalists?

this. i'm sure it's a wonderful-wonderful bike, but for the tifosi it must have lugs to be a "real" colnago.

[moose8]

Having seen both they are both really nice obviously but the v1r had that aero brake tucked down low on the chainstay which looked like it would suck up every piece of dirt and road debris.

[Tickdoc]

Why is there no love for the V1R frame? It seems like a racier version of a traditional Colnago. Is it really that inferior to the C60? Does the fact that it's not made with lugs discount it in the eyes of the traditionalists?
I'm with you, I happen to like the looks of the v1r, but besides the lugless construction, it comes out of Asia.

[EmoryDPTT]

I'm a colnago fan and have multiple with my EPS being one of the best bikes I have ridden.

I have looked into both as one of my next purchases. For me, a c60 would trump over the V1-r for the following reasons:
1. I like lugged 'technology'
2. more traditional of Colnago
3. tube shape is very unique

the V1-r with/without it's paint scheme looks similar to other bike manufacturers.

[Keith A]

Having seen both they are both really nice obviously but the v1r had that aero brake tucked down low on the chainstay which looked like it would suck up every piece of dirt and road debris.Everyone that I know that has a Trek Madone with the rear brake under the chainstay, doesn't like it there.

[tigoat]

Having that Ferrari logo on the VT1 is already worth getting one. I actually would buy one today if they fit me. What’s up with these Colnagos having such an amateurish geometry? Head tubes are tall and top tubes are short. I would be riding a size 45 but I would need the top tube length of a size 54. How the heck did pros fit onto these geometries?

By the way, if you don’t like those rim brakes down there then you could get one with disc brakes. :D

[uber]

That geometry is what makes the bike work for me. Amateur? Sure. I'm not a pro, but my legs are long with respect to my height so the shorter top tube makes it right for me.

[soulspinner]

That geometry is what makes the bike work for me. Amateur? Sure. I'm not a pro, but my legs are long with respect to my height so the shorter top tube makes it right for me.

Bingo, me too. I have virtually no torso and those bikes work for me.

[EmoryDPTT]

Only sloping options for this Colnago. I would just run an appropriate stem for achieve a desired reach when you find the frame with a HT and stack that you need.

[bcroslin]

Everyone that I know that has a Trek Madone with the rear brake under the chainstay, doesn't like it there.

Same with the Felt AR owners I know

[scpknees]

I've been told the V1 R with the brake on the bottom leaves little clearance for the crank arm as well.

aero drag too

[Keith A]

Same with the Felt AR owners I knowTrek's latest Madone has the rear brake back where it belongs on the seatstays. Having ridden behind a number of these Madones, almost any time the rider applies some extra power, the wheel rubs against the brakes :eek: