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katkeeper36
02-03-2016, 05:43 AM
Buying a Colnago frame next week. It is available in both Traditional and Sloping in my size. I have been professionally (computer) fitted and three of the markers are dead on for a Traditional frame (Stack, Seat Tube Angle, and Top Tube c-c). If I were to go with Sloping the difference is in millimeters.

Can someone tell me why I should go with Sloping over Traditional ?

weisan
02-03-2016, 05:49 AM
Kat pal, I know you are seeking opinions...but why do you even care what others think? At this point, it seems like you are falling back on letting others decide for you when really, it comes down to your own personal decision. It's yours to make and yours only. What do you want? The answer to that question is the only one that counts.

katkeeper36
02-03-2016, 05:54 AM
I love the Traditional geometry...but you hear people say all the time that Sloping frames are stiffer/better. To me it just seems like more seatpost showing. If there is a valid argument for choosing a Sloping frame I would love to hear it.

Cicli
02-03-2016, 05:57 AM
Traditional. Personally I think the foot-0-seatpost looks bad.
In the end, get what makes you happy.

weisan
02-03-2016, 06:03 AM
I love the Traditional geometry.

There's your answer, my friend.
:D

Enjoy the whole process of getting your new incoming Colnago.

oldpotatoe
02-03-2016, 06:57 AM
Buying a Colnago frame next week. It is available in both Traditional and Sloping in my size. I have been professionally (computer) fitted and three of the markers are dead on for a Traditional frame (Stack, Seat Tube Angle, and Top Tube c-c). If I were to go with Sloping the difference is in millimeters.

Can someone tell me why I should go with Sloping over Traditional ?

No...sloping is a fit issue. Having the handlebar via the headtube high enough and still having stand over height clearance. If you can do both the horizontal, do that, IMHO. 'Stiffer'/'Lighter' for sloping is market-speak.

happycampyer
02-03-2016, 08:10 AM
I always thought that the geometries of the corresponding traditional and sloping sizes were identical, and the only difference was standover height given the sloping top tube. So the choice would come down to standover height and aesthetics. I have ridden sloping and non-sloping versions of various Colnagos and couldn't detect any difference in stiffness.

Tony T
02-03-2016, 08:37 AM
Can someone tell me why I should go with Sloping over Traditional ?

IMO, the only reason is if space is tight btwn the saddle and top tube.

But, to be sure, just get 2 built and send me the one you don't like :)

…btw, which frame are you getting?

R3awak3n
02-03-2016, 08:41 AM
I prefer traditional myself but the slipping nagos look great too. I would get traditional be Use that what you seem to want. Even if slopping is stiffer, I doubt anyone would notice it.

Stiff seems to be the most used buzz word lately, you can literally use it for almost every component on the bike now a days

velomonkey
02-03-2016, 08:51 AM
My rule is 56 or less go traditional - a traditional frame with a -17 looks fast and just looks right.

58 cm is a toss up.

60cm and up you go sloping only because the seat stays are so high in traditional they make the bike look off - this is coming from someone who would ride a 60cm traditional colnago, but instead has a 56 sloping.

Ken Robb
02-03-2016, 10:50 AM
I prefer the traditional look but I wonder if a rider felt he got some additional comfort when riding a relatively flexible seat tube wouldn't a sloper with a longer seat post be even better for him?

FlashUNC
02-03-2016, 10:59 AM
I've got a traditional bike and a sloping bike. I'll be darned if I can tell the difference attributable to just how the pipes connect together.

Fishbike
02-03-2016, 01:03 PM
I have a C40 traditional and a C59 sloper. I like the overall experience of the C40 a smidge better. Of course my preference has absolutely nothing to do with your analysis.

malcolm
02-03-2016, 02:08 PM
aesthetics, which do you think looks better assuming everything else is equal

tuscanyswe
02-03-2016, 02:08 PM
My rule is 56 or less go traditional - a traditional frame with a -17 looks fast and just looks right.

58 cm is a toss up.

60cm and up you go sloping only because the seat stays are so high in traditional they make the bike look off - this is coming from someone who would ride a 60cm traditional colnago, but instead has a 56 sloping.

hmm not sure i agree. I think classic geo is always better looking on these bikes regardless of size.

Here is a 61 (or was it a 62? can't remember).
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5558/14285798937_2983c54735_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nLosje)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/nLosje) by Bj?n Lundquist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35497133@N04/), on Flickr

Keith A
02-03-2016, 02:59 PM
aesthetics, which do you think looks better assuming everything else is equalBingo

makoti
02-03-2016, 03:07 PM
If you're buying the bike for me, I'd take traditional.

lzuk
02-03-2016, 03:29 PM
Well if Traditional fit is dead on seems like that's the proper choice. The sloping looks fast sitting still- both are very cool.

katkeeper36
02-03-2016, 03:36 PM
IMO, the only reason is if space is tight btwn the saddle and top tube.

But, to be sure, just get 2 built and send me the one you don't like :)

?tw, which frame are you getting?

2012 - C59 Italia (will post some pics after I purchase). I'm sticking with the Traditional Geo - thanks for any/all input.

uber
02-03-2016, 08:35 PM
I went with sloping because the geometry was more favorable for me. I am thrilled with the cosmetics of the sloping. On the side, this C60 is one of the best riding bikes I have ever tried. Just subtle and exceptional all the time. I hope you love yours. Go with the one that speaks to you. No mistakes here.

katkeeper36
02-09-2016, 04:20 PM
Thanks for all the help/assistance. I went for the Traditional frame. Bought a NOS 2012 C59 - Europcar Green. Happy 84th birthday Ernesto!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1518/24087104101_62e91cab35_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CGuGSi)

(stock image)

weisan
02-09-2016, 04:40 PM
Kat pal, that's an awesome looking frame you got there. Can you do me a favor? Keep that steerer tube a bit longer, don't cut it down too much and definitely don't do what some of the crazy cats here do with " slamming their stem ". That way if you ever sell it, I might actually be able to fit on that frame. :D

And yes, you can put as many spacers on top as you like, yup, you heard it first from me. :rolleyes:

bikingshearer
02-09-2016, 04:51 PM
I'm sticking with the Traditional Geo - thanks for any/all input.

Good call. Traditional is what all the kewl kids ride.:cool: Now you can be a kewl kid, too.:D

Keith A
02-09-2016, 05:08 PM
Congrats on the new frame!

Tony T
02-09-2016, 05:09 PM
Very nice!
Now get to work and then post pic's of the completed build :)

tv_vt
02-09-2016, 05:17 PM
Wow - that's hot. Good call on traditional for the small frame size. Sloping would've looked tiny.

Keith A
02-09-2016, 05:32 PM
I happen to think my C-50 sloper in the same size looks ok :rolleyes:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697875755&stc=1&d=1392919123

Tony T
02-09-2016, 05:36 PM
I happen to think my C-50 sloper in the same size looks ok :rolleyes:


:beer:

alexstar
02-09-2016, 05:53 PM
congrats, it looks great! I love that paint scheme!