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DCilliams
10-19-2015, 05:17 PM
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bik/5275369610.html

pbarry
10-19-2015, 05:20 PM
Nice deal. Looks like a 56 to me. Would have originally had Universal brakes and high flange hubs, (I think).

Avincent52
10-19-2015, 07:11 PM
FWIW, I've got a set of Universal Centerpull brakes and levers (mod 61 IIRC), and a tubular wheel set that's got a Campy Record high flange hub in the front.
(The rear wheel has a low flange Tipo hub)

LouDeeter
10-19-2015, 07:29 PM
that is a great price if indeed it is a pre-1963 Cinelli, assuming no rust or dents.

texbike
10-19-2015, 08:12 PM
I'd definitely want to see some more pictures before buying it if you can't see it in person. It's hard to make out in the single picture, but the fork crown looks flat to me and not sloping. Regardless, it looks like a cool and attractively priced Cinelli.

Texbike

LouDeeter
10-19-2015, 08:19 PM
I think that is the classic Cinelli semi-sloping fork crown. The lack of cables means you don't see the clamps. I can't tell whether that is a braze-on for the rear derailleur cable stop or whether the shifters are braze-on or clamp. Those kind of details are important. I have a contact who is a Cinelli specialist if someone is serious. I can put them in contact with him if they get detailed pics. This may be one of those deals where if you ask the questions, you lose the purchase.

pbarry
10-19-2015, 08:52 PM
Crown is correct. Needs cable stops/clamps all around. From here it looks solid. If I was local, I'd show up with $1k and hope to take it home.

temeyone
10-19-2015, 09:04 PM
IDK man, he said no BS. He sounds serious.

;)

Aaron O
10-19-2015, 09:08 PM
Considering what Cinellis from this era sell for, he might laugh.

I'd like to get a better look at that headset. There's nothing cooler than an early italian.

cnighbor1
10-19-2015, 09:44 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Cinelli-Super-Corsa-Nuovo-Record-Clement-58-5-CM-c-to-c-/331686036721?hash=item4d3a0744f1:g:cf4AAOSwVL1WEvI l

texbike
10-20-2015, 09:33 AM
I think that is the classic Cinelli semi-sloping fork crown. The lack of cables means you don't see the clamps. I can't tell whether that is a braze-on for the rear derailleur cable stop or whether the shifters are braze-on or clamp. Those kind of details are important. I have a contact who is a Cinelli specialist if someone is serious. I can put them in contact with him if they get detailed pics. This may be one of those deals where if you ask the questions, you lose the purchase.

Crown is correct. Needs cable stops/clamps all around. From here it looks solid. If I was local, I'd show up with $1k and hope to take it home.

I emailed the guy and he sent some pictures over. It definitely has the SC crown and it does have the proper clamp-on bits (shifter band, rear derailleur stop, and bottom bracket cable routing). It also has the correct bottom bracket oiling ports and rack eyelets on the drop-outs. It has Universal 68s on it that aren't hooked up (why it doesn't have the clamp-on cable guides).

It looks a bit rough but it is original and doesn't appear to have any dents, dings, or structural rust issues. Cool bike!

Texbike

Formulasaab
10-20-2015, 09:43 AM
Pretty cool. I would love to have it for those special sort of rides. I don't know if I can fit it though... If it is a 58 seat tube, what would the top tube measure?

texbike
10-20-2015, 09:47 AM
Pretty cool. I would love to have it for those special sort of rides. I don't know if I can fit it though... If it is a 58 seat tube, what would the top tube measure?

He stated that it was 56.5 CTC on both the top and seat tubes.

Texbike

Formulasaab
10-20-2015, 09:50 AM
Ah thanks. Might be a bit of a stretch for me.

zmudshark
10-20-2015, 11:16 AM
Pretty cool bike, too bad he didn't have the fenders. A friend of mine got one from the same era (Reynolds 531) a few years ago, in original condition. I don't think he's mind me posting a link to his albums:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cowboycurtis/albums

I offered him $2k six years ago, and he wisely turned it down.

jet sanchez
10-20-2015, 02:09 PM
Pretty cool bike, too bad he didn't have the fenders. A friend of mine got one from the same era (Reynolds 531) a few years ago, in original condition. I don't think he's mind me posting a link to his albums:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cowboycurtis/albums

I offered him $2k six years ago, and he wisely turned it down.

Wow, is that ever nice. I have never seen that shorty front fender before, I thought it was a regular front fender cut down but then I saw photos of the full fender set. If you see him sometime, ask him to post up a photo of the full fenders installed.

Aaron O
10-20-2015, 02:44 PM
I also spoke with him. Frankly he's kind of rude, and I'm choosing not to deal with him. It's a ahame it doesn't have the Cinell headset, BB and cranks.

bikingshearer
10-20-2015, 07:42 PM
I emailed the guy and he sent some pictures over. It definitely has the SC crown and it does have the proper clamp-on bits (shifter band, rear derailleur stop, and bottom bracket cable routing). It also has the correct bottom bracket oiling ports and rack eyelets on the drop-outs. It has Universal 68s on it that aren't hooked up (why it doesn't have the clamp-on cable guides).

It looks a bit rough but it is original and doesn't appear to have any dents, dings, or structural rust issues. Cool bike!

Texbike

My guess from the photos is that the brakes are Universal 51s, not 68s. They are pretty much the same design with the same quick-release mechanism, but the difference between the lengths of the front and rear 51s is noticeably greater than with the 68s. The confirmation qould be what is stamped on the caliper arms: 68s have "Model 68" or "Mod. 68' or something similar, while 51s have a five or six digit (can't remember which) number on them.

BTW, the 51s would be more "period correct," as they came out in 1951, while the 68s came out in (wait for it) 1968. And the the oil port on the BB shell screams early 1960s, mid-1960s at the latest. A reasonable price for a Cinelli of that vintage and condition, assuming no unseen problems.

texbike
10-20-2015, 08:20 PM
I also spoke with him. Frankly he's kind of rude, and I'm choosing not to deal with him. It's a ahame it doesn't have the Cinell headset, BB and cranks.

Too bad! Some people are just jerks...

My guess from the photos is that the brakes are Universal 51s, not 68s. They are pretty much the same design with the same quick-release mechanism, but the difference between the lengths of the front and rear 51s is noticeably greater than with the 68s. The confirmation qould be what is stamped on the caliper arms: 68s have "Model 68" or "Mod. 68' or something similar, while 51s have a five or six digit (can't remember which) number on them.

BTW, the 51s would be more "period correct," as they came out in 1951, while the 68s came out in (wait for it) 1968. And the the oil port on the BB shell screams early 1960s, mid-1960s at the latest. A reasonable price for a Cinelli of that vintage and condition, assuming no unseen problems.

They look like 68s from the picture (at least on the front - didn't get a picture of the face of the rear brake).

Texbike

bikingshearer
10-28-2015, 02:12 PM
^^^ Yup, that's a 68. Says so right there. The 51 front was also surprisingly small; I'm not sure that Universal didn't just redo the stamping on the 51 fronts when they issued the 68's. Rear 51's, however, were stupid-long to the modern eye, significantly longer that a rear 68. That is what made me think they were 51's.

Of course, all of my thoughts and opinions are worth exactly what you are paying for them. :D