Campy 9 speed questions

[Web1111a]

Looking at a bike with 9 speed record on it

All silver including the hubs

Those are laced to mavic cxp-33

Not sure of the number of spokes guess 32 or 36

Only thing not silver are the Brifters

Those are carbon

Excellent condition

What would you say the value of group is?

Are there better levels of cassette still available?

Doing a quick search I only found some new veloce and some miche

My other thought would be to do a conversion to 10 speed so then all bikes have interchangeable rear wheels

I would get new chain and cassette and have right shifter updated

Thanks for your insights

[Ken Robb]

I have 9 spd. Campy on my Strada Bianca. It works great! Just ride it as is and be happy.

[Web1111a]

Definitely will need new cassette

A 23 low is too high for me

That is part of reason for the question

[acorn_user]

I like Campag 9, and I use the Veloce cassettes on all my bikes. As far as I know, the main difference vs Record or Centaur/Daytona is that they are a little heavier due to lacking niceties such as alloy carriers or Ti cogs. I have the 13-28 and it's just about enough gear to get around the Blue Ridge with a double, but I do sometimes wish for a compact....

[Web1111a]

[QUOTE=acorn_user;1838883]I like Campag 9, and I use the Veloce cassettes on all my bikes. As far as I know, the main difference vs Record or Centaur/Daytona is that they are a little heavier due to lacking niceties such as alloy carriers or Ti cogs. I have the 13-28 and it's just about enough gear to get around the Blue Ridge with a double, but I do sometimes wish for a compact....[/

From driving thru blue ridge on 81 I can see the need for a compact

[oliver1850]

If all the same year components, they are most likely 1999-2000 though the Record 9 Ergo levers and RD continued to be available through the 2004 model year. This is nice stuff, could have either the 8 speed style or 10 speed style RD, depending on year. Hubs should be the prized oversized axle type if year matches the Ergo levers, but could be the early 9 type as well. Could be 28, 32, or 36 hole, with 28s being most valuable. I'd value the group somewhere in the $400 - 500 range, + $250 - 350 for the OS axle wheels - though a couple of recent ebay wheelsets have sold for around $200.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mavic-CXP-33-Road-Bike-Wheel-Set-700c-Clincher-Campagnolo-Record-11-Speed-/381358948001?hash=item58cac3bea1&nma=true&si=pQOhKzFILZPJEBOk539rvWMB%252Bwk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


There's nothing wrong with the Veloce 9 cassettes, which continue to be available in 12-23, 13-23/26/28, and 14-28. Same material as Chorus cassettes, just lack the aluminum carrier on the large cogs. On a 12-23 cassette the weight difference was about 35g.

[oldpotatoe]

Definitely will need new cassette

A 23 low is too high for me

That is part of reason for the question

Campagnolo still makes 9s cogsets. 12-23, 13-26 and 13-28. Veloce level tho but those will work great and last a long time.

If the levers are 1999 or later, they can be converted to 10s. Need to look at back of lever to see if it can. 1998-no, 1997-no.

[Ken Robb]

If the levers are 1999 or later, they can be converted to 10s. Need to look at back of lever to see if it can. 1998-no, 1997-no.

Sorry, I don't understand this.

[Mark McM]

If the levers are 1999 or later, they can be converted to 10s. Need to look at back of lever to see if it can. 1998-no, 1997-no.

I'm not sure this is totally true. I've converted 1998 Chorus 9spd levers to 10spd. I think the primary difference is Gen. 1 (pointy hood) vs. Gen. 2 (domed hood).

[oldpotatoe]

I'm not sure this is totally true. I've converted 1998 Chorus 9spd levers to 10spd. I think the primary difference is Gen. 1 (pointy hood) vs. Gen. 2 (domed hood).

1998 levers, rounded hood, first year, the shift disc 'flats' were mated to a unique to that year through bolt that doesn't fit into the 10s shift disc flats. It's actually bigger. They changed the guts in 1999 for ERGOBrain, with a plate on the very back with two slots that engaged the prongs of ERGOBrain. This thru bolt, disc flats and back plate stayed the same for 2000(10s). Technically you can convert a1998 to 10s but you have to change the entire innards, front to back, which is expensive.

So you can convert pointy 8s to 9s and 1999 9s to 10s and 8s for that matter.

[Steelman]

Campagnolo still makes 9s cogsets. 12-23, 13-26 and 13-28. Veloce level tho but those will work great and last a long time...



Is Veloce 13-23 9 speed discontinued? Thanks.

[Wakatel_Luum]

Appears so...

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/cassettes-cassettes-campagnolo-9-spd-veloce-centaur-cassette/campcass300

I love my 9 speed Campagnolo but I prefer down tube shifters...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/6852324f1c33415ca8515f48deff120b.jpg

[oldpotatoe]

Is Veloce 13-23 9 speed discontinued? Thanks.

Been a while since I tried to order a 13-23, so don't know. See right above Ribble has 'em..so there ya go.

[Web1111a]

How do you tell if the lever can be converted to 10 speed

Is there a marking or something I should look for on the carbon lever?

I'm thinking since I would want new cassette to get the 13-28 or 13-26

Right now it has 23

I would need a new chain as well

If I can do the conversion of lever how expensive?

Thanks

[oldpotatoe]

How do you tell if the lever can be converted to 10 speed

Is there a marking or something I should look for on the carbon lever?

I'm thinking since I would want new cassette to get the 13-28 or 13-26

Right now it has 23

I would need a new chain as well

If I can do the conversion of lever how expensive?

Thanks

If carbon brake/shift lever-1999 and yes convertible. Shift disc and toothed bushing for the front..about $75 all in plus labor to install. Not 'hard' but can be difficult. EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062 are the parts.

[Web1111a]

If carbon brake/shift lever-1999 and yes convertible. Shift disc and toothed bushing for the front..about $75 all in plus labor to install. Not 'hard' but can be difficult. EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062 are the parts.

Old Potatoe

One final question are you saying carbon levers are all post 1999 and convertible?

Or need to determine the carbon dating?

If need to determine post 1999 what does one look for

[oldpotatoe]

Old Potatoe

One final question are you saying carbon levers are all post 1999 and convertible?

Or need to determine the carbon dating?

If need to determine post 1999 what does one look for

Yes they are, back and forth between 8s, 9s and 10s. Record became carbon in 1999. Chorus 'looks' like Record in 1999, aluminum brake lever, hole in shift lever but 1999 shift guts. Your lever is 1999 and therefore convertible.

[Web1111a]

Thanks

Now I have to see if I can make the purchase

[pbarry]

Don't forget a 10s RD.

[Web1111a]

Was under the impression from another thread the 9 speed dr and fd will be fi eb with 10 speed

[oldpotatoe]

Was under the impression from another thread the 9 speed dr and fd will be fi eb with 10 speed

If the rear der isn't worn out-sloppy pivots, it will shift 10s just fine. No mods needed.