View Full Version : Trying to get over it by venting
jberenyi
10-08-2015, 12:52 PM
I just had to vent to my favorite most awesome cycling forum. First let me say that in general I think all of us who are cyclists are very competitive around others who are cyclists whether they be friends, acquaintences or otherwise. I have no problem with this. It's just the way it is but sadly I do have an issue with an indivual who is my work friend that is 20 years younger than me that just makes it a point to take away one's KOM on Strava for the sake of taking it away. Almost like an egoist. Locally there is a segment not far from my house where a rival guy my age held the KOM for some time. I went out and took it. I told my 20 years younger work friend who holds almost every KOM in town that I want to take it back this week because yesterday some stranger took it. So what does he do but go out and take it last night making it impossible for me to KOM again and says "I loosened it up for you". I don't have a problem with losing a KOM but I did tell him my plans ahead of time. Maybe I'm just a whiner and need to fess up to the fact that I'm getting older and can't lay down 1100 watt sprints like he can :( So if I'm a whiner one of you guys come over and slap me in the face and say "Get over it". :crap:
vqdriver
10-08-2015, 12:56 PM
yeah, get over it. ;)
honestly, i never got into the whole strava thing. a couple buddies did and went thru their obsession then moved on, well one didn't..... i can see how it can be addicting, but just not for me i guess.
Cicli
10-08-2015, 12:58 PM
:fight:Get a moped.
old fat man
10-08-2015, 12:58 PM
yeah, get over it. ;)
honestly, i never got into the whole strava thing. a couple buddies did and went thru their obsession then moved on, well one didn't..... i can see how it can be addicting, but just not for me i guess.
get over it, or filter your results by age if you really need that KOM to make yourself feel good.
ultraman6970
10-08-2015, 12:58 PM
My friend... honestly? your friend is an a$$ :)
Don't worry about that KOM thing... there's things more important in life.
The other option you have is to put the computer in a motorcycle or find a friend with a motorcycle, go super late to the climb in question and have the moto to tow you up at 40mph :D Problem solved :P
Joachim
10-08-2015, 12:59 PM
I say if you want to be competitive, pin on a number and race against people in your category. So yes, get over Strava. That being said, if you really want to be "that guy" and get him back, make your own Strava segment. Then you can delete him every time (I think) if he takes it.
kramnnim
10-08-2015, 01:07 PM
No, you can't delete people from your segment...
Saint Vitus
10-08-2015, 01:11 PM
Digital EPO...
AngryScientist
10-08-2015, 01:15 PM
consider yourself very very lucky if this is the kind of problem that has you awake at night. :beer:
Joachim
10-08-2015, 01:17 PM
No, you can't delete people from your segment...
In that case... number it is.
Exonerv
10-08-2015, 01:18 PM
No, you can't delete people from your segment...
I know Mark... I've tried :-)
brockd15
10-08-2015, 01:18 PM
I'd be irked, too, probably. So yeah, get over it, but mostly because it's for your benefit. But it sounds like a real jerk move by the other guy.
tumbler
10-08-2015, 01:18 PM
If you told your friend about a Craigslist deal you were pursuing and he went and sniped it, that would be a d--- move, but Strava... who cares? It's just a game. The rules of the game give the KOM to the fastest person. I would try to accept that he's the fastest guy in town and just have fun riding your bike.
If you're 20 years older than anyone else on Strava and you're getting KOMs at all just chalk it up to riding in an area where there aren't that many cyclists.
My area forget it.. the KOMs are all held by Pros and Cat 1/2 folks who ride like 10k miles per year.
Pretty easy to not get stressed out about not having KOMs.
One of my favorite hills about 1.5 miles from my house has been Strava'd 12,000 times...
mg2ride
10-08-2015, 01:29 PM
OMFnG!
I can't believe you even posted this.
jberenyi
10-08-2015, 01:35 PM
OMFnG!
I can't believe you even posted this.
I can't believe you read it.
AngryScientist
10-08-2015, 01:35 PM
now if someone really wanted to piss off the OP, they would invite the young stud to join Paceline forum. :hello:
SoCalSteve
10-08-2015, 01:40 PM
consider yourself very very lucky if this is the kind of problem that has you awake at night. :beer:
That is 110% how I felt when I read the op. Feel blessed my friend. Blessed.
I wouldn't worry about strava, but keep him away from your wife and watch him at work. 😉
ergott
10-08-2015, 01:47 PM
Three options.
1) get over it.
2) worry about your age/weight category to make you feel better.
3) get stronger and beat the KOM.
https://static.spiceworks.com/shared/post/0010/0716/dawson-crying.jpeg
Black Dog
10-08-2015, 01:47 PM
I just had to vent to my favorite most awesome cycling forum. First let me say that in general I think all of us who are cyclists are very competitive around others who are cyclists whether they be friends, acquaintences or otherwise. I have no problem with this. It's just the way it is but sadly I do have an issue with an indivual who is my work friend that is 20 years younger than me that just makes it a point to take away one's KOM on Strava for the sake of taking it away. Almost like an egoist. Locally there is a segment not far from my house where a rival guy my age held the KOM for some time. I went out and took it. I told my 20 years younger work friend who holds almost every KOM in town that I want to take it back this week because yesterday some stranger took it. So what does he do but go out and take it last night making it impossible for me to KOM again and says "I loosened it up for you". I don't have a problem with losing a KOM but I did tell him my plans ahead of time. Maybe I'm just a whiner and need to fess up to the fact that I'm getting older and can't lay down 1100 watt sprints like he can :( So if I'm a whiner one of you guys come over and slap me in the face and say "Get over it". :crap:
Ok, you are into STRAVA and are upset that others are out Strava'ing you? STRAVA is all about ego and dick measuring. How can you get upset at someone riding on public roads with the intent of going the fastest over a section of road to measure themselves against others doing the same? :confused: No one is taking your precious KOM's, they are not yours, they are open to anyone who is privileged enough to meet the stringent requirements for joining STRAVA. Sorry to sound so harsh, but you need, as you suggested, a heathy dose of reality here. There is always someone faster, someone younger, and someone with a longer top tube; it is life. The only thing worth measuring is your happiness, and that is not measured against others.
Cicli
10-08-2015, 01:52 PM
STRAVA is all about ego and dick measuring.
Pro tip: Turn the ruler around. Your 2 becomes a 10. :banana:
Post that on Strava.
oldpotatoe
10-08-2015, 02:00 PM
get over it, or filter your results by age if you really need that KOM to make yourself feel good.
Yup, get over it or challenge the guy to a 40 k race and each takes their time, then subtract their age in minutes.
malcolm
10-08-2015, 02:03 PM
Pro tip: Turn the ruler around. Your 2 becomes a 10. :banana:
Post that on Strava.
Oh man I thought I was on the way to a career in porn but just had the ruler backward.
brockd15
10-08-2015, 02:07 PM
I wouldn't worry about strava, but keep him away from your wife and watch him at work. 😉
Ha, best advice yet!
Mikej
10-08-2015, 02:13 PM
:fight:Get a moped.
ha took me a minute...
Id get a waayy better bike than his and commute..
fuzzalow
10-08-2015, 02:26 PM
I wouldn't worry about strava, but keep him away from your wife and watch him at work. 😉
Ha, best advice yet!
Yeah, yeah, I know this is a joke but I hadda chime in because I took this as brilliant mocking on Strava-Stud. Touche jmal, well done. I think guys like Strava-Stud think themselves as pretty hot stuff - take my wife and my job, oh no, what ever will I do?!?
HaHa! It would take a hella lot more than being a schmuck on Strava to do that! Go ahead Strava-Stud, try it! The mere fact that you're a big swingin' dick on Strava tells me that I got nuthin' to worry about. The phrase "Get a life" isn't used much anymore is it? No matter, it fits here.
Seramount
10-08-2015, 02:27 PM
just another story that further convinces me that Strava is another worthless online widget to avoid.
like MySpace, Facebook, Twitter...
Cicli
10-08-2015, 02:35 PM
just another story that further convinces me that Strava is another worthless online widget to avoid.
like MySpace, Facebook, Twitter...
Dont forget Ashley Madison.
Is it weird that you posting this frustration with your friend makes me just as frustrated at you?
bcroslin
10-08-2015, 02:51 PM
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/61332822.jpg
:fight:Get a moped.
Come on, anyone with a little bit of speed can beat a moped up a hill.............
.......at least the 49cc models
1centaur
10-08-2015, 02:52 PM
Tell the guy that you have several alternative names on Strava and have a few other KOMs you are proud of and hope not to lose. Then pick some tough ones and see if he goes to flail against them hopelessly.
KOMs are not signs of greatness, they are artifacts of a local rider pool. Every KOM one of us has reflects significant limits in that pool. Those limits reflect luck, not talent.
His taking that KOM got you 90% to a more Zen way of thinking. Paceline will take you the rest of the way. You can thank us both, with peace in your heart.
54ny77
10-08-2015, 03:01 PM
go have some ice cream. you'll feel better.
jberenyi
10-08-2015, 03:10 PM
Hey guys, love some of the comments. A few had me reeling back in my chair LOL. Thanks for all the input. Now stop it your killing me...I'm over it! LOL :beer:
mistermo
10-08-2015, 03:11 PM
The other option you have is to put the computer in a motorcycle or find a friend with a motorcycle, go super late to the climb in question and have the moto to tow you up at 40mph :D Problem solved :P
Why is a motorcycle needed. If you're going to cheat your way into it, just drive your Accord.
velomonkey
10-08-2015, 03:27 PM
1. Invite hime to paceline and send him right to this thread - make sure to tell him "I loosened it up for you."
2. Find his girl, seduce her with your elder, cycling, renaissance man attitude - make sure to tell him "I loosened it up for you" (if you're married, find some Swedish dude to do it, Swedish men give all American men a complex)
3. Do a ride with him and let him drop you all over the place, but place your garmin in his jersey pocket. Upload the ride, let's say his name is 'jim' - title the ride "loosening up Jim" - email it to everyone at work and make sure to say that you two bonded over this and it was a chance for you to pass on your knowledge and slowly ride with Jim. One day, with hard work, Jim has a chance of beating you.
That's all I got for now, but do those 3 and let the braintrust know how it went.
jberenyi
10-08-2015, 03:36 PM
2. Find his girl, seduce her with your elder, cycling, renaissance man attitude - make sure to tell him "I loosened it up for you" (if you're married, find some Swedish dude to do it, Swedish men give all American men a complex)
DUDE...this is shamefully funny...LOL
biker72
10-08-2015, 03:39 PM
Some people worry about putting food on the table for their family.
Some people worry about paying their mortgage.
Some people worry about how to put their kids through college.
And some people worry about their Strava KOM status.
beeatnik
10-08-2015, 04:27 PM
This dude used to pin numbers:
https://instagram.com/thorfinnsassquatch
Was the National Crit or Road (can't member) Champ for a minute. Then, he tested positive for steroids.
Now he makes super groovy cycling kit
www.brandt-sorenson.com
https://instagram.com/brandtsorenson/
And chases Strava KOMs for pleasure, personal satisfaction and free marketing
No longer races (although he's been cleared to race for over a year).
39 pages of KOMs
https://www.strava.com/athletes/1799223
Say what you will, but the kats with 10, 20, 30 pages of KOMs tend to be real athletes. And they're as competitive as a mountain lion looking for a meal.
Oh, in some cases, guys who pin numbers for a living like to play as well
https://pvcycling.wordpress.com/?s=gaimon
It turns out that Gaimon, who’s one of the nicest people around, showed up to help the Helen’s guys retake their Mandeville KOM, formerly owned by local legend Tony Manzella and recently usurped by Nick Brandt-Sorenson, the infamous masters racer who received a two-year suspension after testing positive for naughty substances at masters nationals in Bend, Oregon in 2011, where he won both road and the crit titles and then de-won them after the pee-pee test.
mg2ride
10-08-2015, 04:39 PM
I can't believe you read it.
If that's an attempt at an apology, I accept it.
Hindmost
10-08-2015, 04:42 PM
Does anyone ride and climb hills real-time with their friends or a group anymore? Any hill can become a KOM. Lessons in humility are immediate and quickly learned.
palincss
10-08-2015, 04:51 PM
Come on, anyone with a little bit of speed can beat a moped up a hill.............
Ah, but can you do it without the drugs?
velomonkey
10-08-2015, 04:52 PM
39 pages of KOMs
https://www.strava.com/athletes/1799223
I will bet my real donuts to anyone's dollars that dude doesn't grab a KOM and say "I loosened it up for you."
His kits are SWAG. Love one of his pictures has a bandaid on his arm where clearly a needle went in!!!!!!
djg21
10-08-2015, 04:59 PM
I just had to vent to my favorite most awesome cycling forum. First let me say that in general I think all of us who are cyclists are very competitive around others who are cyclists whether they be friends, acquaintences or otherwise. I have no problem with this. It's just the way it is but sadly I do have an issue with an indivual who is my work friend that is 20 years younger than me that just makes it a point to take away one's KOM on Strava for the sake of taking it away. Almost like an egoist. Locally there is a segment not far from my house where a rival guy my age held the KOM for some time. I went out and took it. I told my 20 years younger work friend who holds almost every KOM in town that I want to take it back this week because yesterday some stranger took it. So what does he do but go out and take it last night making it impossible for me to KOM again and says "I loosened it up for you". I don't have a problem with losing a KOM but I did tell him my plans ahead of time. Maybe I'm just a whiner and need to fess up to the fact that I'm getting older and can't lay down 1100 watt sprints like he can :( So if I'm a whiner one of you guys come over and slap me in the face and say "Get over it". :crap:
It's "competition." You got beat by a faster rider. Assuming winning Strava means anything at all, what could it mean if faster guys weren't allowed to compete so slower guys could always win the KOMs.
Get over it and go ride your bike. If you have as much or more fun than the next guy, you've won!
beeatnik
10-08-2015, 05:06 PM
I will bet my real donuts to anyone's dollars that dude doesn't grab a KOM and say "I loosened it up for you."
His kits are SWAG. Love one of his pictures has a bandaid on his arm where clearly a needle went in!!!!!!
It's nice kit. Here I am on his wheel, engaging in corporate espionage.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3787/19048495523_77f142204b_o.jpg
As for loosening KOMs, NBS loosened the KOM at the World Famous Rose Bowl for this guy:
Ronnie Toth (Catella Kit), Drug Free Athlete, 25 pages of KOMs
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8563/15993994284_307b05619b_b.jpg
https://www.strava.com/segments/633705
https://www.strava.com/athletes/292691
Llewellyn
10-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Oh FFS :crap: This has to be the pinnacle of first world problems. If you worry that much about this sort of s**t, you must be a basket case if you ever have any real problems to deal with.
gemship
10-08-2015, 07:36 PM
:fight:Get a moped.
it would be funny if someone could rig up Strava on a moped, beat everybody without breaking a sweat! Talk about troll value!
Mr. Pink
10-08-2015, 09:11 PM
I'm still having major issues caused by my friend Billy asking Heather out to the senior prom before me, when he knew damn well I was planning on asking her.
The other day I was riding with an old friend for the first time in two years, and he told me that we scored pretty badly on this long, fun downhill in the country both of us did with another buddy. I said, wait, they compete on ...... Downhills?
joosttx
10-08-2015, 09:36 PM
I suggest a murder suicide to solve this problem.
weisan
10-08-2015, 09:48 PM
... my work friend that is 20 years younger than me
J pal, why are you getting mad at a baby, you supposed to be the adult here ?!:D
Uncle Jam's Army
10-08-2015, 10:06 PM
Any of you mofos take out my Gypsum Canyon bridge KOM (aided by a 25-mph tailwind), then we'll have problems!:mad::fight:
oldpotatoe
10-09-2015, 06:51 AM
I can't believe you read it.
hmmmm...
unterhausen
10-09-2015, 09:23 AM
If you're 20 years older than anyone else on Strava and you're getting KOMs at all just chalk it up to riding in an area where there aren't that many cyclists.A couple of years ago I was with a friend when he got some KOM's on a fairly well-used road. I guess at that point nobody had bothered to log the miles yet. Nowadays, I think the KOM is no more than 2/3s the time we did it in. There are some monsters around here, and I'm pretty sure they aren't using any kind of PED, digital or otherwise. If I was going for anything, it would be DFL, but it's really hard to get those too.
One nice thing about pushing 60 is that you don't have to care about this sort of thing any more. A few years back, I was pretty sick for the entire spring and I found out that I enjoyed riding slow and not hurting myself. If I trained a little, I might be able to get a KOM on a segment that was slightly downhill for many miles, otherwise forget it.
Usually, I'm pretty receptive to rants, but not about strava. Just make your stuff private and stop looking at rankings. So much better for everyone
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