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Louis
05-16-2006, 07:32 PM
Lifted from the NYT site

May 16, 2006
Lactic Acid Is Not Muscles' Foe, It's Fuel
By GINA KOLATA

Everyone who has even thought about exercising has heard the warnings about lactic acid. It builds up in your muscles. It is what makes your muscles burn. Its buildup is what makes your muscles tire and give out.

Coaches and personal trainers tell athletes and exercisers that they have to learn to work out at just below their "lactic threshold," that point of diminishing returns when lactic acid starts to accumulate. Some athletes even have blood tests to find their personal lactic thresholds.

But that, it turns out, is all wrong. Lactic acid is actually a fuel, not a caustic waste product. Muscles make it deliberately, producing it from glucose, and they burn it to obtain energy. The reason trained athletes can perform so hard and so long is because their intense training causes their muscles to adapt so they more readily and efficiently absorb lactic acid.

The notion that lactic acid was bad took hold more than a century ago, said George A. Brooks, a professor in the department of integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley. It stuck because it seemed to make so much sense.

"It's one of the classic mistakes in the history of science," Dr. Brooks said.

Its origins lie in a study by a Nobel laureate, Otto Meyerhof, who in the early years of the 20th century cut a frog in half and put its bottom half in a jar. The frog's muscles had no circulation — no source of oxygen or energy.

Dr. Myerhoff gave the frog's leg electric shocks to make the muscles contract, but after a few twitches, the muscles stopped moving. Then, when Dr. Myerhoff examined the muscles, he discovered that they were bathed in lactic acid.

A theory was born. Lack of oxygen to muscles leads to lactic acid, leads to fatigue.

Athletes were told that they should spend most of their effort exercising aerobically, using glucose as a fuel. If they tried to spend too much time exercising harder, in the anaerobic zone, they were told, they would pay a price, that lactic acid would accumulate in the muscles, forcing them to stop.

Few scientists questioned this view, Dr. Brooks said. But, he said, he became interested in it in the 1960's, when he was running track at Queens College and his coach told him that his performance was limited by a buildup of lactic acid.

When he graduated and began working on a Ph.D. in exercise physiology, he decided to study the lactic acid hypothesis for his dissertation.

"I gave rats radioactive lactic acid, and I found that they burned it faster than anything else I could give them," Dr. Brooks said.

It looked as if lactic acid was there for a reason. It was a source of energy.

Dr. Brooks said he published the finding in the late 70's. Other researchers challenged him at meetings and in print.

"I had huge fights, I had terrible trouble getting my grants funded, I had my papers rejected," Dr. Brooks recalled. But he soldiered on, conducting more elaborate studies with rats and, years later, moving on to humans. Every time, with every study, his results were consistent with his radical idea.

Eventually, other researchers confirmed the work. And gradually, the thinking among exercise physiologists began to change.

"The evidence has continued to mount," said L. Bruce Gladden, a professor of health and human performance at Auburn University. "It became clear that it is not so simple as to say, Lactic acid is a bad thing and it causes fatigue."

As for the idea that lactic acid causes muscle soreness, Dr. Gladden said, that never made sense.

"Lactic acid will be gone from your muscles within an hour of exercise," he said. "You get sore one to three days later. The time frame is not consistent, and the mechanisms have not been found."

The understanding now is that muscle cells convert glucose or glycogen to lactic acid. The lactic acid is taken up and used as a fuel by mitochondria, the energy factories in muscle cells.

Mitochondria even have a special transporter protein to move the substance into them, Dr. Brooks found. Intense training makes a difference, he said, because it can make double the mitochondrial mass.

It is clear that the old lactic acid theory cannot explain what is happening to muscles, Dr. Brooks and others said.

Yet, Dr. Brooks said, even though coaches often believed in the myth of the lactic acid threshold, they ended up training athletes in the best way possible to increase their mitochondria. "Coaches have understood things the scientists didn't," he said.

Through trial and error, coaches learned that athletic performance improved when athletes worked on endurance, running longer and longer distances, for example.

That, it turns out, increased the mass of their muscle mitochondria, letting them burn more lactic acid and allowing the muscles to work harder and longer.

Just before a race, coaches often tell athletes to train very hard in brief spurts.

That extra stress increases the mitochondria mass even more, Dr. Brooks said, and is the reason for improved performance.

And the scientists?

They took much longer to figure it out.

"They said, 'You're anaerobic, you need more oxygen,' " Dr. Brooks said. "The scientists were stuck in 1920."

Dr. Doofus
05-16-2006, 07:45 PM
nothing new here

anybody who has taken an exercise physiology class can recite the steps of the Krebs cycle

anybody who can do that knows that lactic acid gets metabolized as fuel -- but it takes a number of steps and time and a decrease in intensity (duh). people stopped saying it was a waste product in the late 80s, or at least that's what doof learned in his program

the bottom line is nothing new:

when you go over your sustainable power for any given duration, you blow. full stop.

Louis
05-16-2006, 07:52 PM
So what are the CytoSport guys saying when the claim that the product

"Beats The BurnTM: Cytomax's patented alpha L-PolylactateTM buffers lactic acid production in your muscles, reducing the "burn" during intense training and minimizing post-exercise muscle soreness."

Just marketing cr@p? (wouldn't be surprised if it is...)

Louis

Skrawny
05-16-2006, 09:00 PM
The Doctor is (again) correct.
And Dr Brooks was my prof at Berkeley.

(Please forgive the following biochemistry nerd rant)
In glucose metabolism we break down glucose to pyruvate
Pyruvate gets fed into the Krebs cycle where Co2 is hacked off and high energy electrons are liberated which eventually are given up to O2 to make H2O and ATP -the main currency of energy in the cell.

The Krebs cycle can only go soo fast, though. If metabolic demands are higher than the max rate of the cycle and the max rate of O2 delivery(anaerobic) then there is a metabolic traffic jam at the Krebs cycle and the whole thing is in danger of coming to a screeching halt. In order to keep making energy, an important electron transfer molecule needs to be regenerated (NADH->NAD). The conversion of pyruvate to lactate allows NAD to be regenerated and go about its busness making more energy. When the cell goes back into aerobic respiration, lactate is all set to give up all its high-energy electrons back into the Krebs cycle.

Lactate is just there so that our metabolic machinery can hold onto excess electrons until the Krebs cycle (aerobic respiration) can catch up. This is the metabolic reason behind "Oxygen debt" -why we continue to breathe heavy AFTER exercise... we are sucking down O2 to burn all that nice high energy lactate stored up. Too much of a good thing is bad though, our muscles don't work well in acidic environments...
-s

mike p
05-16-2006, 09:06 PM
The Doctor is (again) correct.
And Dr Brooks was my prof at Berkeley.

(Please forgive the following biochemistry nerd rant)
In glucose metabolism we break down glucose to pyruvate
Pyruvate gets fed into the Krebs cycle where Co2 is hacked off and high energy electrons are liberated which eventually are given up to O2 to make H2O and ATP -the main currency of energy in the cell.

The Krebs cycle can only go soo fast, though. If metabolic demands are higher than the max rate of the cycle and the max rate of O2 delivery(anaerobic) then there is a metabolic traffic jam at the Krebs cycle and the whole thing is in danger of coming to a screeching halt. In order to keep making energy, an important electron transfer molecule needs to be regenerated (NADH->NAD). The conversion of pyruvate to lactate allows NAD to be regenerated and go about its busness making more energy. When the cell goes back into aerobic respiration, lactate is all set to give up all its high-energy electrons back into the Krebs cycle.

Lactate is just there so that our metabolic machinery can hold onto excess electrons until the Krebs cycle (aerobic respiration) can catch up. This is the metabolic reason behind "Oxygen debt" -why we continue to breathe heavy AFTER exercise... we are sucking down O2 to burn all that nice high energy lactate stored up. Too much of a good thing is bad though, our muscles don't work well in acidic environments...
-s

Thats exactly what I was going to say.

Mike

Skrawny
05-16-2006, 09:09 PM
glad I got in there first!

Too Tall
05-17-2006, 07:38 AM
Ooooooo, so that's why I feel full after a race oooooooooo...I am such a fat pig....tooooo much lactic acid.

Dr. Doofus
05-17-2006, 07:44 AM
salt ferment

lactic acid really good there. gotta have the salt for the lactobacilli to get busy...along with a fermenting culture...

the day mrs. doof made doof throw out the kim chee/saurkraut press was a sad day indeed...and the days of home kefir and yogurt are gone too..lactic acid ferment is the sheeyat...fish sauce, anyone? you know the romans made that crap too...miso hungry uuhh miso hungry uuhh miso hungry me no eat long time....

catulle
05-17-2006, 08:04 AM
Jezz, I wonder what Dr. Leary would have to say about all this stuff, atmo.