OT, Wrangler pickup

[AngryScientist]

interesting. apparently a done deal and coming. could this mark the return of the small pickup to the US market. i hope so.

please, please toyota, give us another small, reliable inexpensive truck. all i need is 4WD, a radio and a steering wheel.

http://www.trendingcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2015_jeep_wrangler_redesign_pickup_truck.jpg

[paulh]

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/03/437132835/manufacturers-notice-uptick-in-sales-of-small-pickup-trucks

[soulspinner]

This wont be as reliable as the new Tacoma. Had one once and never shoulda sold it but I got stupid money for it. Want the new one badly.

[AngryScientist]

make no mistake, the current line-up of tacoma, colorado, frontier, are NOT what i consider small pick-up trucks. they are midsize at best, bohemeths compared to the original models. i dont believe any of them are even available as a standard cab anymore.

[William]

I would love to see Toyota bring the 70 series into the states...







William

[velotel]

They're are smaller (but they've been steadily getting bigger with each model change, of course) pickups here in Europe. Been seeing more and more of the Ford Rangers, almost all either double-cab or cab-and-a-half but they also have standard cabs. Tons of Toyota Hilux, again mostly double-cab or cab-and-a-half. Same with Nissan, lots of them around. Dacia has a pickup, 2wd only but apparently coming out with a new one based on the Duster and with 4wd. It's small. Also there's the Fiat, again small but also growing.

[jr59]

This wont be as reliable as the new Tacoma. Had one once and never shoulda sold it but I got stupid money for it. Want the new one badly.

No worries, I'm in the same boat! I should have never sold mine.

[p nut]

When they invent a time machine, I'm definitely bringing one of these back.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/0203091209-jpg.324051/

[grawk]

The double cab hilux diesel is my dream vehicle...

[ptourkin]

These are available 20 minutes from my house but I can't register one here:

http://jalopnik.com/5517627/sorry-gringo-no-baby-pickups-for-you-volkswagen-nuevo-saveiro

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--arPOpUqw--/18d3r9hdp0wvsjpg.jpg

So are diesel Hilux :(

[jghall]

Kind of a nice looking Jeep/Pickup.

Always wished Toyota would have made a FJ with a removable top. Their version of a Wrangler. Or even a 4-door version of it.

[soulspinner]

make no mistake, the current line-up of tacoma, colorado, frontier, are NOT what i consider small pick-up trucks. they are midsize at best, bohemeths compared to the original models. i dont believe any of them are even available as a standard cab anymore.

Saw a reg cab Colorado already. Had a 1985 Ranger. That cab was too small. Didnt realize you wanted something that small. Used Honda Ridgeline?

[FlashUNC]

Pickups haven't been that in a long, long time.

Everyone wants the giant brodozers.

[Kobe]

Is Jeep going to call it a Wrangler? I always like the Comanche name and always thought Jeep made a huge mistake discontinuing them.

I was Sunday shopping the Chevy dealers lot and every Colorado was over $35k, at that price it's not even a step up to go to a full size pickup. I am hoping the Ranger undercuts GM's pricing if it comes here.

[soulspinner]

Is Jeep going to call it a Wrangler? I always like the Comanche name and always thought Jeep made a huge mistake discontinuing them.

I was Sunday shopping the Chevy dealers lot and every Colorado was over $35k, at that price it's not even a step up to go to a full size pickup. I am hoping the Ranger undercuts GM's pricing if it comes here.

Ya, for that money you get a full size and bite the bullet

[rugbysecondrow]

The handiness of a small pick up is undeniable, but the feel of a large truck is visceral. I have never owned a large one, seems wasteful to me, but I have driven them and they are fun for a minute or two.

I had a 1987 Toyota PU, 2WD...damn thing was stolen and trashed. Sold it to a company that shipped it to the Dominican Rep.

[goonster]

It's not a done deal. Nothing about the new Wrangler platform will be a done deal for a while. What you have shown is a one-off show special.

Small, bare-bones pickups are never coming back because they are not profitable.

The current Tacoma and Colorado/Canyon is as small, cheap and simple a pickup as any of us will be able to buy new in our lifetimes.

[FlashUNC]

It's not a done deal. Nothing about the new Wrangler platform will be a done deal for a while. What you have shown is a one-off show special.

Small, bare-bones pickups are never coming back because they are not profitable.

The current Tacoma and Colorado/Canyon is as small, cheap and simple a pickup as any of us will be able to buy new in our lifetimes.

Sergio seems to be telling the plant heads this is what will be happening. They're losing the Cherokee in Toledo, but gaining the new pickup:

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150901/OEM01/150909993/jeep-wrangler-to-stay-in-toledo-cherokee-leaving-wrangler-based?cciid=email-autonews-blast

[goonster]

please, please toyota, give us another small, reliable inexpensive truck.[/IMG]

The problem, in a nutshell, is that lots of people say this, and then don't put their money where their mouth is.

I have said, since circa 2000, that I would buy the first small pickup equipped with a 4-cyl. diesel engine. Now I have to decide whether to buy a Colorado, or whine that it is:
- too big in the front
- too small in the rear
- too expensive
- too automatic
- too loaded with options
- too Thai

[goonster]

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150901/OEM01/150909993/jeep-wrangler-to-stay-in-toledo-cherokee-leaving-wrangler-based?cciid=email-autonews-blast
Sorry, I had not seen the news on the Toledo decision. That is a big fork in the road.

Lots of things still in the air here. The new Wrangler is still in development, and there is still speculation that a Wrangler pickup could be Ram-based (ugh), so who knows . . .

[mg2ride]

I would love to see the true Small Pickups make a come back. They are very practical and perfect vehicle for a teenage boy.

The 1986 Isuzu Pup that I paid $4600 for was the best vehicle purchase I have ever made.

I changed the oil ever 20,000 miles or so and drove it into the Fn ground. It was still running half decent when I dumped in with 200K on it.

[CampyorBust]

Absolutely! That wrangler looks nice. All I want is an 80s Toyota Hilux with a machine gun option on the back.

https://youtu.be/xnWKz7Cthkk

A cheap, smaller, reliable, plow through anything (within reason) 4x4 truck and SUV is most welcome. Though that Hilux Top Gear took to the North pole pretty much ticks all the boxes. If they would only bring that to the US market.

One of the biggest regrets I have was selling a 1997 Toyota 4Runner. All the 4Runners after 2000 or so have been hideous hatchet jobs, with the newer model being even more unsightly than the one before.

I looked into getting a truck earlier on this year. Wanted a small truck but due to a must have ability to plow I was learned that nothing short of a F250 will do for serious plowing. The new Diesel Ram 1500 looks great, awesome motor, but holly smokes that thing is massive and cant handle a real plow. Another thing that blew my mind when looking at trucks was the high price and longevity of some of these trucks (especially the diesel ones).

[William]

Always wished Toyota would have made a FJ with a removable top. Their version of a Wrangler. Or even a 4-door version of it.

:cool:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/img_6382.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/auto_shows/2006_sema/6702929/0611_z+2007_toyota_FJ_cruiser+soft

http://cartype.com/pics/8142/full/toyota_fj_06_07.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sema07_fjvert---01.jpg

http://tenwheel.com/imgs/a/b/z/m/s/2008_toyota_fj_convertible_4x4_yellow_truck_1_lgw. jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sema07_fjvert---07_450.jpg

[Anarchist]

That's just a Hummer under another name.

[Plum Hill]

You need 4WD in New Jersey?
That's like all to bozos I worked with that had to have 4WD Silverados. They never used the 4WD or hauled anything bigger than an Igloo cooler.

I parked my '09 extended cab Ranger w/Leer shell next to a new Colorado.
My ride disappeared in the Colorado's shadow.

I guess the sport UTE will be a thing of the past since Ford and Holden are ending production in Australia. Sad they couldn't ave brought those into the States.

[verticaldoug]

We need a Daihatsu Hijet in the U.S. Greatest delivery truck ever!

You can get a new one for 6k!

http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/lineup/truck/detail.htm#section_03

[William]

That's just a Hummer under another name.

I've been in both...not even close.

The original Hummer H1 was a capable vehicle, H2 is a bloated tick that most folks who buy rarely ever take off-road. Mo fo show then go.








William

[p nut]

I parked my '09 extended cab Ranger w/Leer shell next to a new Colorado.
My ride disappeared in the Colorado's shadow.


We purchased a new Ranger back in '95. The thing was slow as turd, but it was a workhorse. Miss that truck.

Ford is talking about bringing back the Ranger, but I'd imagine I wouldn't be interested at all. These mid-size trucks just don't do it for me.

[rugbysecondrow]

We purchased a new Ranger back in '95. The thing was slow as turd, but it was a workhorse. Miss that truck.

Ford is talking about bringing back the Ranger, but I'd imagine I wouldn't be interested at all. These mid-size trucks just don't do it for me.

I had a 1994 Ranger. Bare bones, no power steering, only am/fm, manual...slow as a turd is right, but it was a non-nonsense basic truck.

[rugbysecondrow]

To add, more commercial vendors and workers using Ford Transit and other vehicles in lieu of small pick-ups. If you have a need, there is a vehicle to meet it, the need is being met differently then it had.

[goonster]

We need a Daihatsu Hijet in the U.S.

Good news: They are available in the U.S.!

Bad news: They cannot generally be driven on public roads*

(* = I have seen plenty, but only on industrial sites, never on public roads. It turns out that some states permit them on local roads, via specialized state laws and local ordinances, similar to farm equipment. Fascinating . . . )