New Colnago geometry available [Archive]

LegendRider

07-30-2015, 08:21 AM

From Colnago's Facebook page:

Very important news. C60 is now available in the new 滴igh geometry with a head tube higher if compared with a traditional and sloping geometry. A higher head tube is the right way to get most riders in the right place. With no need for high-rise stems or spacer stacks. The High geometry is available in five sizes: 48h, 50h, 52h, 54h and 56h. Which mean the C60 is now produced in nineteen different sizes: sloping, traditional and High. C60 is the frame that you cannot compare to any other!

joosttx

07-30-2015, 08:27 AM

The C60 is an amazing bike. I don't think it needs a higher head tube.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/459/19712425730_0f5c9002d1_c.jpg

LegendRider

07-30-2015, 08:35 AM

The C60 is an amazing bike. I don't think it needs a higher head tube.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/459/19712425730_0f5c9002d1_c.jpg

That's a gorgeous bike. I own a C50 and would love to upgrade to a C60. But, there are $6200 reasons why I won't be anytime soon.

roguedog

07-30-2015, 09:00 AM

Nice build. Sweet looking ride. Miss that view.

Do we have ride report?

tv_vt

07-30-2015, 09:17 AM

Wonder why they didn't offer the higher headtube in the larger sizes (58-62).

joosttx

07-30-2015, 09:21 AM

That's a gorgeous bike. I own a C50 and would love to upgrade to a C60. But, there are $6200 reasons why I won't be anytime soon.

If you order from Europe the frames are around$4200

joosttx

07-30-2015, 10:56 AM

Do we have ride report?

As I said the bike is amazing. When I bought I was not sure I was going to like it and in my head I had planned to selling it. That was before I rode it.

The bike is super fast on the flats and descends so sweetly. Its very comfortable and I have no problems taking on a 100+ mile ride.

For climbing the best example I can give you is that I am 20 seconds faster riding up a 1.5 mile climb with a steady 6% grade than on my cross bike.

So, very comfortable, very fast, best road bike I have own by a long shot.

Idris Icabod

07-30-2015, 11:17 AM

If you order from Europe the frames are around$4200

$3400 from Mike at Maestro! I got my C59 from him.

soulspinner

07-30-2015, 01:19 PM

The 52 high fits me with a 5mm spacer and a 110 stem. Oh dear.

joosttx

07-30-2015, 08:22 PM

The 52 high fits me with a 5mm spacer and a 110 stem. Oh dear.

Has anyone ridden a 52 or 50s rumor is that the trail is massive

Keith A

07-30-2015, 10:36 PM

Has anyone ridden a 52 or 50s rumor is that the trail is massive
I have a c-50 that is a 52s.

soulspinner

07-31-2015, 05:30 AM

They post the head angle and fork rake. Math it. All forks are 43 mm...

Keith A

07-31-2015, 07:36 AM

They post the head angle and fork rake. Math it. All forks are 43 mm...At least in the past, Colnago never posted the HTA. They may have started providing this detail, but I haven't checked lately. I do know that my 52s has a slack HTA -- and you are correct, they all come with a fork that has a 43mm offset.

soulspinner

07-31-2015, 08:17 AM

At least in the past, Colnago never posted the HTA. They may have started providing this detail, but I haven't checked lately. I do know that my 52s has a slack HTA -- and you are correct, they all come with a fork that has a 43mm offset.

Its on their website, and yes they used to be hush hush but I now see the geomtry section for c-60 has head angle listed for each size.

Keith A

07-31-2015, 08:30 AM

Its on their website, and yes they used to be hush hush but I now see the geomtry section for c-60 has head angle listed for each size.Thanks for the info. I looked on their website and sure enough it is there -- however they don't show this on their diagram or describe what Ss is ;) But for a 52s, the HTA is listed as 71.92 deg -- and I would guess that my C-50 is pretty similar. I will say that when I first rode this bike, the front felt odd and it took me a while to get used to the handling. It's fine now, but I would prefer a steeper HTA...or maybe a fork that has more offset.

El Chaba

07-31-2015, 08:47 AM

I am not so sure that they are doing themselves any favors, but then again the same position can be achieved with more spacers. Colnagos always handle best with an aggressive rider position-more weight over the front wheel.

jmal

07-31-2015, 09:13 AM

soulspinner

07-31-2015, 09:53 AM

Thanks for the info. I looked on their website and sure enough it is there -- however they don't show this on their diagram or describe what Ss is ;) But for a 52s, the HTA is listed as 71.92 deg -- and I would guess that my C-50 is pretty similar. I will say that when I first rode this bike, the front felt odd and it took me a while to get used to the handling. It's fine now, but I would prefer a steeper HTA...or maybe a fork that has more offset.

Geo on my Cervelo (RS) is 72 front end 73 rear. Handles slow on turn in just like my Colnago Master did...

wallymann

07-31-2015, 09:53 AM

Probably trying to get a piece of Trek's market. The blurb reads very much like Trek. Most people that can afford that level of frame are past the stage of life where they can handle a racier position.

kinda similar to porsche offering the cayenne, macan, and panamera...branching out from their traditional pure-sporting roots to capture more wallet-share of aging baby-boomers and gen-Xers.

roguedog

07-31-2015, 10:13 AM

Thanks for the info. ... I will say that when I first rode this bike, the front felt odd and it took me a while to get used to the handling. It's fine now, but I would prefer a steeper HTA...or maybe a fork that has more offset.

Keith, do I interpret this to mean that in the smaller sizes it (Colnago) doesn't handle as dreamily ?

Keith A

07-31-2015, 10:17 AM

What's interesting is that my C-50 already has one of the taller head tubes for it's size. I'm no racer boy and have longer legs for my height, but I'm running a 82 deg stem with a very thin spacer under the stem and I still feel like I'm sitting up too high.

Keith A

07-31-2015, 10:26 AM

Keith, do I interpret this to mean that in the smaller sizes it (Colnago) doesn't handle as dreamily ?That's my opinion. As I mentioned, once I got used to the different feel of the slacker HTA, it's been okay and doesn't bug me like it used too. Pretty much everything I have ridden (and continue to ride) has HTA of 73 deg or higher and so I really noticed the difference at first.

I would be curious to see how this would handle if I was using a fork with a bigger offset to reduce the trail. I have a custom CSi with a steep HTA (close to 74 deg) and it came with a fork that had a 43mm offset. I didn't like the handling of the front end and swapped this for a 40mm fork and it was much better.

Joachim

07-31-2015, 10:27 AM

Whatever. I will happily take the 52s high and slam my stem!

joosttx

07-31-2015, 10:31 AM

they post the head angle and fork rake. Math it. All forks are 43 mm...

60, 62?

Keith A

07-31-2015, 10:37 AM

BTW, here's my setup...

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697875755&stc=1&d=1392919123

jmal

07-31-2015, 01:52 PM

The C60 is an amazing bike. I don't think it needs a higher head tube.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/459/19712425730_0f5c9002d1_c.jpg

That bike has me seriously thinking...

joosttx

07-31-2015, 02:18 PM

That bike has me seriously thinking...

here are a few more pictures to ponder upon.....

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/278/18622310442_dd52d13f91_b.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8869/18578049905_802e46dc3a_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/514/17921883344_63e1d38d64_b.jpg

I highly recommend you buying a C60

beeatnik

07-31-2015, 02:39 PM

Houston, I hate you :bike:

jmal

07-31-2015, 02:50 PM

How's the BB working out? I really dislike pressfit systems, but the C60 uses a threadfit? Any noises from that direction?

joosttx

07-31-2015, 02:55 PM

Houston, I hate you :bike:

but I love your style

[https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7700/17406392114_52aabc143f_c.jpg

joosttx

07-31-2015, 03:07 PM

How's the BB working out? I really dislike pressfit systems, but the C60 uses a threadfit? Any noises from that direction?

So far so good. There are no creaks or anything out of the ordinary. I installed the BB myself and was very stressed about it as I never had done a press fit install before this.

The installation of a the BB is just like a pressfit install. The advantage as I see it of the Threadfit it gives a sturdier coupling surface which may help with creaking and that you can just remove it and replace with a new one when you switch out BB. Anyone else cares to chime in I would like the hear.

ajmojave

08-01-2016, 10:10 PM

does anyone have a picture of a frame with the high geometry? I have not been able to find one online.

Thanks in advance

soulspinner

08-02-2016, 12:47 PM

BTW, here's my setup...

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697875755&stc=1&d=1392919123

really great proportions......:hello:

Hindmost

08-02-2016, 01:02 PM

The C60 is an amazing bike. I don't think it needs a higher head tube.

The location of this picture has me pretty puzzled. And I know the Bay Area pretty well.