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aatores
06-22-2015, 12:31 AM
Any ideas for a carbon clincher wheelset under 1200g?

beeatnik
06-22-2015, 01:55 AM
Unicorn Racing Wheelz

and

AX Lightness

Lightweight Meilenstein

benito
06-22-2015, 02:02 AM
unicorn racing wheelz


for unicornz by unicornz


STEP OFF CLYDESDALES

Blown Reek
06-22-2015, 05:20 AM
Are Unicorn Racing Wheels tubeless compatible?

shovelhd
06-22-2015, 06:01 AM
Super light
Clincher
Cheap

Pick two.

soulspinner
06-22-2015, 08:35 AM
Super light
Clincher
Cheap

Pick two.

durable?:bike:

shovelhd
06-22-2015, 08:37 AM
Super light, clincher, and durable can be a very fine line depending on rider weight.

kramnnim
06-22-2015, 12:01 PM
The OP never said cheap or durable...

beeatnik
06-22-2015, 12:17 PM
Are Unicorn Racing Wheels tubeless compatible?

Unicorn Racing Wheelz are Tireless Compatible.

ANAO
06-22-2015, 12:23 PM
Unicorn Racing Wheelz are Tireless Compatible.

I googled this and it took me right back here.

benito
06-22-2015, 01:17 PM
full circle.


eve classic 25'sXtune mig/mags+cx rays sprinkled on top.

hope your not fat.

beeatnik
06-22-2015, 01:52 PM
benito, nice, but a porky 1250

800 rimz
240 hubs (70/170)
198 spokes
16 nips

or

How about a nearly unrideable, ultra flexxy but ultra sexxy for the buck ten rider in your life:

ENVE 25 Clinchers - 800gramz
Pillar Ti spokes - 110 to 132 gramz
https://fairwheelbikes.com/pillar-xtra-lite-ti-spokes-p-6860.html
Special 13 gauge nips - 15 to 20 gramz
Extralite CyberFront Sl - 48 gramz
Extralite CyberRear Sl 134 gramz

1130 - 1150 gramz for $2750

or

Unicorn Racing Wheelz - 600 grams for $60,000

or

1180g for 6 grand
http://www.wrenchscience.com/road/wheelsets/Lightweight/Meilenstein+C+16-20+Spokes/2015/

1125g for 6 grand
http://www.wrenchscience.com/road/wheelsets/Lightweight/meilenstein+C+20+Spokes/2015/

1100g for 7 grand
http://www.wrenchscience.com/road/wheelsets/Lightweight/Meilenstein+C+16-20+Spokes+Schwarz+Edition/2015/

or

AX Lightness Ultra Road 28
Best deal, IMO.

The specs:

Model Ultra clincher wheelset
Rims ax.Full carbon clincher rims for calliper brakes, 28 mm high
Hubs Extralite
Spokes Sapim CX-Ray
Spoke holes 20 holes front 24 back
Weight 1050g / per pair +/- 5%
Rider weight limi 100 kg
Area of use Street

beeatnik
06-22-2015, 01:59 PM
any 150 gram hubset out there?

benito
06-22-2015, 11:22 PM
mama says I'm fat.


http://www.wheelbuilder.com/wheel-weight-calculator.html


i got 205 for american classic rear

207 mack (campagnolo though)

Uncle Jam's Army
06-22-2015, 11:32 PM
Without doing a bunch of research online, I would say your best bets are Enve 25, Corima 32's (both laced to your favorite exotic hubs), though these are still in the 1300 gram range and big money. I would, however, strongly dissuade you from using such fragile carbon clinchers. You want lightweight carbon wheels, go tubular. But I would still recommend staying in the 1300 gram range, unless you're under 150 lbs.

one60
06-23-2015, 11:01 AM
without igniting an discussion about the value of aero anything or light wheels, the attached article provides some interesting insights...

at a constant power input, removing 400 grams from the rider/bike had a very small effect over a 20K course with a 400m climb of 6%.

Most of the 6 sec benefit of dropping nearly a pound came on the quarter mile climb. Depending on your perspective, 24-30 seconds is a modest performance improvement over a one-mile climb or a crushing gap that puts you on the podium..

Since the evaluation used a pro-level bike, it demonstrates that the overall impact of weight (whether its on the bike, the wheels or the athelete) is modest (relative to our expectations) unless you are spending all your ride time climbing HC climbs.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/06/can-the-specialized-venge-vias-really-save-5-minutes-over-40kms/

aramis
06-23-2015, 01:12 PM
without igniting an discussion about the value of aero anything or light wheels, the attached article provides some interesting insights...

at a constant power input, removing 400 grams from the rider/bike had a very small effect over a 20K course with a 400m climb of 6%.

Most of the 6 sec benefit of dropping nearly a pound came on the quarter mile climb. Depending on your perspective, 24-30 seconds is a modest performance improvement over a one-mile climb or a crushing gap that puts you on the podium..

Since the evaluation used a pro-level bike, it demonstrates that the overall impact of weight (whether its on the bike, the wheels or the athelete) is modest (relative to our expectations) unless you are spending all your ride time climbing HC climbs.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/06/can-the-specialized-venge-vias-really-save-5-minutes-over-40kms/

It's easier to agonize over wheels than to train better though.

wooly
06-23-2015, 01:16 PM
It's easier to agonize over wheels than to train better though.

So true. I've fallen for this in the past. In fact, I think I'm trapped now...

beeatnik
06-23-2015, 01:32 PM
Well, they look and feel so good.

Bottom line, if you're slow you're slow. If you're fast, you're fast.

denapista
06-23-2015, 01:49 PM
Did someone say weight weenie?!?!?!

1200g carbon clinchers would be easy, but depends on the depth of rim. Extralite hubs are pretty nice and super light paired with Enve 45 carbon clinchers. I'm running tune 70/170 with CX Rays on Enve 45 Clinchers. I'm just a tad over 1300g, and these wheels are solid! If you want Carbon Clinchers below the 1200g mark, look at Extralite hubs or tune 45/150 hubs laced to Enve hoops. Reynolds Attack rims (380g) are pretty light as well for a carbon clincher rim.

Extralite hubs + Reynolds Attack 2014 rims + CX Rays will get you a carbon clincher wheelset around 1160-1190g. Depending on your weight, that's a pretty solid wheelset. Fast spin up and butter smooth. I'm in love with Extralite hubs, with the upgraded ceramic bearings.

beeatnik
06-27-2015, 07:03 PM
Unicorn Racing Wheelz by Fred

12,000 gramz, 12 year warranty, 12 dollars plus 2 grand for shipping and handling.

https://instagram.com/p/4ZwbBpG1Ke/?taken-by=outsideisfred

soulspinner
06-30-2015, 08:26 AM
Well, they look and feel so good.

Bottom line, if you're slow you're slow. If you're fast, you're fast.

Yup. Nothing truer on a bike forum. :beer:

bfd
06-30-2015, 11:35 AM
Did someone say weight weenie?!?!?!

1200g carbon clinchers would be easy, but depends on the depth of rim. Extralite hubs are pretty nice and super light paired with Enve 45 carbon clinchers. I'm running tune 70/170 with CX Rays on Enve 45 Clinchers. I'm just a tad over 1300g, and these wheels are solid! If you want Carbon Clinchers below the 1200g mark, look at Extralite hubs or tune 45/150 hubs laced to Enve hoops. Reynolds Attack rims (380g) are pretty light as well for a carbon clincher rim.

Extralite hubs + Reynolds Attack 2014 rims + CX Rays will get you a carbon clincher wheelset around 1160-1190g. Depending on your weight, that's a pretty solid wheelset. Fast spin up and butter smooth. I'm in love with Extralite hubs, with the upgraded ceramic bearings.

What about these Am Classic "Magnesium" clincher wheels - 300g rims and 1226g for the pair!

http://www.amclassic.com/en/products/road-wheels/magnesium-clincher

There's also a tubeless version that is listed at 1232g!

http://www.amclassic.com/en/products/road-wheels/road-tubeless

Anyone tried these?

John H.
06-30-2015, 11:42 AM
It seems like there is a breaking point in weight if you want carbon, shallow and clinchers.
They are not substantially lighter than aluminum wheels unless you use some really funky hubs and overly light spokes.
I suggest going tubular if weight is a concern.
If speed is a genuine concern- Something like an Enve 3.4 will be faster in almost all conditions.
If you must stay with shallow clinchers I think the Hed Ardennes FR, Bontrager RXL, or Shimano 9000 are better overall choices (though they are not carbon) :(

mktng
06-30-2015, 12:12 PM
ive been looking to pick up a set of DA9000 C24's.
not the most weight weenie wheelset. but they come with awesome skewers, and are built with "no weight limit"

perfect balance of form and function.

regularguy412
06-30-2015, 12:35 PM
EC90SL From Easton. Yup. They're tubular, but 1250 grams and no listed rider weight limit. I've ridden my 2011 versions going on 4 seasons now. Not an every day ride, but well over 3,000 miles on the set and I'm a buck-80. I _did_ break a rear spoke twice within the first 1,000 miles and Easton replaced. Turned out that Sapim had supplied a sketchy batch of drive side spokes for that year's wheels. No issues whatsoever in the last 3 yrs.

IMHO, light carbon clinchers = thin braking surfaces. Thin braking surfaces = heat dissipation danger w/ possible catastrophic failure.

Get tubulars.

Mike in AR:beer: