Handlebar Heaven - Bring out your specs.

[Too Tall]

I am refreshing handlebars on various bikes sooooo thought I'd start a topic on bars, specs. and why what works. I know what I like but WHY do I like certain bars and not others. It's deeeeep man ;) What works for me is a med. reach and healthy drop. Kestrel EMS ( 84/150) and Zipp B2 AKA "Contour Bar" (84/152). I can live with Salsa Pro (70/140) but everytime I get back on a bike with the magic 84/150 specs. it feels great.

Go for it.

[saab2000]

Cinelli 65 'criterium bend' bars. Best ever. Ever. Period.

then comes the Cinelli 66 deep drops.

Finally comes the Deda Round Deep Drops. Similar to the 66s, but a bit longer reach.

[e-RICHIE]

i love this stuff (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/album?.dir=a93a&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/my_photos) atmo -

[cydewaze]

Perfect timing! I'm in the market for new bars, and I also like a deep drop and med reach. I prefer anatomic bends (huge hands) but I'm looking for a bar where the segment that turns forward from the tops is close to parallel with the very bottoms.

The reason for this is because I'd like as straight a run as possible from the bars onto the hoods, without having the ends of the bars point at my toes. So far the Deda 215 is the leading candidate, but I can't find one in person to hold, so I have to go by web pics and trust those camera angles.

[Grant McLean]

I'm in heaven with the ITM carbon millenium bars...78/148

I think it's actually the exact same bar as the Oval R900 carbon,
which i'm ordering to compare.

I've tried the deda 215, liked the tops, hated the drops, and the
round version is too short forward reach. Likewise with the ITM
millenium "strada" shallow bar, not nearly enough forward reach.

Why do all the shallow drop bars have no reach? Sure, for
poeople who want to shorten up that works, but not everyone
who rides with a lot of drop, and would like a shallow bar wants
to shorten up...

In my next life, i'm starting a custom handlebar company.

g

[e-RICHIE]

In my next life, i'm starting a custom handlebar company.

g

you can name it -
I Grant You That Atmo Co.

[palincss]

Perfect timing! I'm in the market for new bars, and I also like a deep drop and med reach. I prefer anatomic bends (huge hands) but I'm looking for a bar where the segment that turns forward from the tops is close to parallel with the very bottoms.

The reason for this is because I'd like as straight a run as possible from the bars onto the hoods, without having the ends of the bars point at my toes. So far the Deda 215 is the leading candidate, but I can't find one in person to hold, so I have to go by web pics and trust those camera angles.

Except for the "anatomical" part, it sounds to me as though you are describing the Nitto "noodle" model 177 handlebar. http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16111.html

Riv calls what you want a "flat ramp".

[Grant McLean]

you can name it -
I Grant You That Atmo Co.


great idea!

in the meantime, i'll sign off all the posts when I agree with:

IG-YT

g

[chrisroph]

I'm very partial to my 90/145 cinelli solidas. The reach is right with my 130-140 stems, there is enough room in the drops, and there are a lot of good hand positions with the campy shifters.

[Len J]

I'm very partial to my 90/145 cinelli solidas. The reach is right with my 130-140 stems, there is enough room in the drops, and there are a lot of good hand positions with the campy shifters.

Nitto M-184 STI's 10/145 With a flat ramp and enough room on both the flat drops and the front of the drop.

Len

[davids]

I love my 3TTT Forgies, so much that I bought a few sets on close-out for future use. I'm not sure what the drop or reach is - Since they've left the market, that kind of obscure information is almost impossible to find.

But the real draw is the way the drops slightly flare out - The slightly more open hand position works really well for me. I tried another bar that felt identical on the hoods, but was just plain wrong in the drops.

Are there other bars that have this design?

[Ti Designs]

Cinelli 65 'criterium bend' bars. Best ever. Ever. Period.

Yup. I just don't get flat top bars, my wrists don't point that way, why would I want bars that force them to? The slope also means that my elbows are wider, even with a narrow bar (I run 65-40's) which at one time meant that I could fit through smaller holes in the sprint. Now it means that you can take a shorter line in getting around me... Speaking of sprinting, the point of crit bars is to keep your arms from hitting the top of the bar when you're in the drops and out of the saddle. Every time I teach someone how to sprint they complain that their wrist hurts from hitting the top of the bar.

So here's what I don't get. People are still looking for Cinelli 65's - and they don't fit any ahead style stem! 3ttt Gimondi bend was another popular crit bar, which they stopped making 15 years ago. Nobody makes a crit bar - why??? OK, the Modolo Curvisima is close, but a $300 carbon bar with a big sticker that says it should be replaced often???

All that said, any company that makes a product based on what I think should sell will be out of business in a week. The same thing goes for making shoes that fit my feet, or winter clothing that works...

[Bruce K]

I love the shape, drop, and reach of my Modolo Curvissimas.

They have similar geometry to the old 3TTT 199's, but with the flattened area to rest your hand on.

I just wish they made them in aluminum so they weren't so d++n expensive.

BK

[scottcw2]

i love this stuff (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/album?.dir=a93a&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/my_photos) atmo -

Which model is that? I note on their website that they make two reach/drop of their classic bar - 135/80 & 144/88mm. I can't find the 144/88 for sale anywhere. Even their US distributor only stocks the 135/80.

[Too Tall]

1. ITM carbon millenium bars...78/148
2. Kestrel EMS PRO 84/150
3. Zipp B2 84/152
4. Salsa Pro 70/140
5. cinelli solidas 90/145
6. Nitto M-184 STI's 100/145

TiDesigns, how about TTT Prima bars?

[e-RICHIE]

Which model is that? I note on their website that they make two reach/drop of their classic bar - 135/80 & 144/88mm. I can't find the 144/88 for sale anywhere. Even their US distributor only stocks the 135/80.


those are the R700 in 135.
the 144's are in stock here, in the handlebar room.

[jwprolo]

I have some FSA RD200 bars on my road bike. They are "square" and have the anatomic bend, 145 drop, 90 reach. I like them alot, but plan on ditching these for the same bar, only classic bend.

[93legendti]

1. ITM carbon millenium bars...78/148
2. Kestrel EMS PRO 84/150
3. Zipp B2 84/152
4. Salsa Pro 70/140
5. cinelli solidas 90/145
6. Nitto M-184 STI's 100/145

TiDesigns, how about TTT Prima bars?

Ritchey BioMax II, based upon Smiley's suggestion. 70/130. I am curious about the old Easton EC-90's reach and drop.

[72gmc]

My new bars are Nitto model 115. 45cm wide, 140 deep (both c-to-c) and 100 reach. The ends point at my rear brake and the tops are flat. Nice shiny silver. I like 'em.

These bars overcome my chief gripe with anatomics: the lack of a sufficient flat end in the drops. With my TTT Forgies I felt like I was holding on with half a hand while riding in the drops, which kept me out of the drops.

Hey davids, this means I have a Forgie bar/stem (46/120) just hanging in the garage...

[Bruce K]

jwprolo -

I have a set of those on the cross bike and they are pretty good. Very similar to the 3TTT 199's in shape and weight.

BK

[cydewaze]

Except for the "anatomical" part, it sounds to me as though you are describing the Nitto "noodle" model 177 handlebar. http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16111.html

Riv calls what you want a "flat ramp".
Yeah, those are very close. at least now I know I coherently described what I was looking for. :D

[cydewaze]

Hey, check out this funky thing:

http://www.geoplan.it/modolo/ath_image.php?silent=true&id=10 :confused:


I kinda like this one for me though:
http://www.3ttt.com/ing/curve_morpheus.htm

Time to start googling. :p

[72gmc]

"Morpheus is dedicated to male cyclists." What an odd way to talk about a handlebar.

Hey cydewaze, while you're googling, I found my Nittos for a good price at aebike.com.

[scottcw2]

those are the R700 in 135.
the 144's are in stock here, in the handlebar room.

If you have the round bend (non-anatomic) 144/88, are they for sale? If so, how much? shoot me a PM. Thanks.

[e-RICHIE]

If you have the round bend (non-anatomic) 144/88, are they for sale? If so, how much? shoot me a PM. Thanks.




you shoot me a PM.
i'm a catcher, not a pitcher atmo.

[Dr. Doofus]

ritchey classics 82/135

loong stems (140 and 135), but oodf doesn't like big transitions from hoods to drops...but he is raising his hoods some to get rid of the MP spacers

[cydewaze]

Hey cydewaze, while you're googling, I found my Nittos for a good price at aebike.com.
Must be nice. I can't find the 3TTTs anywhere in the US. :rolleyes:

I might end up going with the Deda 215's.

[Birddog]

I love the shape, drop, and reach of my Modolo Curvissimas.
I just wish they made them in aluminum so they weren't so d++n expensive.

They usta did. I've got a some hanging on my wall. I don't think they are the same though, just in name.

Birddog

[Too Tall]

Thread needs a bump.
Grant et. al. add your fav. bar specs.

(recent additions to: Traditional Bend bars)
fsa Energy-T
ITM millenium strada (almost classic, close enough)

1. ITM carbon millenium bars...78/148
2. Kestrel EMS PRO 84/150
3. Zipp B2 84/152
4. Salsa Pro 70/140
5. cinelli solidas 90/145
6. Nitto M-184 STI's 100/145
7. cinelli solidas 90/145
8. Nitto noodle m-177 95/140
9. FSA RD200 90/145
10. Ritchey BioMax II 70/130
11. Nitto m-115 100/140
12. ritchey classics 82/135
13.

[Fat Robert]

when i dumped the doof i dumped the shallow drop bars

oval concepts R700 88/144, oval 140 stem


I could still go about 5mm lower on the front end...I might use a -10 stem next year...but the oval -6 is just so purty....

[atmo]

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=200636&postcount=3
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=200709&postcount=16

[Grant McLean]

Thread needs a bump.
Grant et. al. add your fav. bar specs.

(recent additions to: Traditional Bend bars)
fsa Energy-T
ITM millenium strada (almost classic, close enough)

1. ITM carbon millenium bars...78/148
2. Kestrel EMS PRO 84/150
3. Zipp B2 84/152
4. Salsa Pro 70/140
5. cinelli solidas 90/145
6. Nitto M-184 STI's 100/145
7. cinelli solidas 90/145
8. Nitto noodle m-177 95/140
9. FSA RD200 90/145
10. Ritchey BioMax II 70/130
11. Nitto m-115 100/140
12. ritchey classics 82/135
13.

TT,

it's a short list,

g

[Too Tall]

Lovely.

xxx/xxx

Post specs. my fine fellow ;)

[swoop]

let me let you in on a secret. the Oval stuff rawks.

[atmo]

let me let you in on a secret. the Oval stuff rawks.
agreed atmo

[Too Tall]

Madness

Hey, before you post porn at least give a warning ;)

[Grant McLean]

Lovely.

xxx/xxx

Post specs. my fine fellow ;)


FSA energy T is 90/145

ITM "strada" bend is the shallow round version, 75/135
it's not the slightly bent version which is 88/154

"strada" bend can be found on the 31.8 millenium 4ever
and the 25.8 old school millenium.

Personally, the 75mm reach is too short, not enough room
behind the ergo lever, so i ride the regular ones.

The new 2007 "101" series ITM stuff seen in the tour is the
first carbon bar from ITM coming in a round bend.

http://www.itm.it/sito_uk/main_uk.htm

g

[roman meal]

agreed atmo


at the top of the pile, I see atmo.

"I can feel the heat closing in, feel them out there
making their moves, setting up their devil doll stool pigeons, crooning over my spoon and dropper I throw
away at Washington Square Station, vault a turnstile
and two flights down the iron stairs, catch an uptown
A train... Young, good looking, crew cut, Ivy League,
advertising exec type fruit holds the door back for me.
I am evidently his idea of a character."

[davids]

Must be nice. I can't find the 3TTTs anywhere in the US. :rolleyes:

I might end up going with the Deda 215's.
Cambria (http://www.cambriabike.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes) has the Forgies. I just picked up a couple more for the stash.

[roman meal]

" I have to wait 52 months!?"

[terrytnt]

I really went out on a limp and purchased the new FSA Carbon K Wing for my new Ottrott. It's quite a bit different than my traditional bars but has internal cabling and due to it's beauty is only wrapped up to the hoods.

I really like the look and it blends well with my TiCarbon look.

Not everyone, however, will venture nor pay the price... but what the heck!

[bcm119]

I'm using the Kestrel EMS bars (84/150) on my CIII (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=19158) and like 'em a lot. Before that I was on the "old" Easton ec90 which I think --don't quote me on this-- is 95/145. It was an easy transition to the Kestrel with a 1 cm longer stem. The Kestrels are really solid, way stiffer than the old ec90's, which were notoriously flexy.

[Steve Hampsten]

I recently discovered Reynolds Ouzo bars: flat on top, nice and curvey in the drops. Medium drop and reach, single groove, OS center.

Alloy and carbon versions available; I like the alloy.

Very tasty.

[Lunar Probe]

My new bars are Nitto model 115. 45cm wide, 140 deep (both c-to-c) and 100 reach. The ends point at my rear brake and the tops are flat. Nice shiny silver. I like 'em.


I like some of the Nitto shapes but they throw everything off with their extra-long reach.

[manet]

deda 215s _ i went to art school.

[72gmc]

I like some of the Nitto shapes but they throw everything off with their extra-long reach.

yes, it's very long. i switched stems so the reach to the hoods is just right, but it took a while to get used to riding on the tops... they're so much closer to me.

i love the drops, though. my forgies didn't have a long enough lower flat for my hand; these are very comfortable.

[catulle]

deda 215s _ i went to art school.

Yup, I also like the 215, but the shallow rendition. I'm blond.

[manet]

I'm blond.

OH _ MY _ GAWD! me toooo

[Grant McLean]

OH _ MY _ GAWD! me toooo

threesome?


g

[manet]

threesome?


g

well you seem kinda' brainy, but that ain't what
pulls MY mojo's cord...

[Grant McLean]

well you seem kinda' brainy, but that ain't what
pulls MY mojo's cord...

try craigslist, i think they have a whole section for that


g

[manet]

try craigslist, i think they have a whole section for that


g

http://nh.craigslist.org/tls/175527007.html

[manet]

try craigslist, i think they have a whole section for that


g

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/179378355.html

[catulle]

Shopping anyone...?

[Lunar Probe]

I sometimes cruze gay bars.

[dirtdigger88]

while I love blondes (I have one of my own ;) )

so I dont need help in that department-

what I want are some deep drop bars- non carbon- classic bend-

and please dont tell me that your 145's are deep- Im talking 155- 160 non track bars-

I have two pair of cinelli 66's one on the kirk and one on the shelf in case I eff' them up down the line-

I like going deep-

Jason