Carrera frames

[oliver1850]

Remember the "denim" shorts?

How much of the story does the seller of this frame have right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111675903653?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D1116759 03653%26_rdc%3D1

I can't remember if Carreras were ever marketed to the public, but this one looks like a regular production (not team) frame to me. I guess it could have been made for a team member to train on, but I wonder if they would have used Cromor for team bikes even for training. I love the paint on this and don't mind the Cromor tubes. If I wasn't knee, make that waste, deep in projects already........

Anyway, just wondering what's known about the Carrera branded frames.

[parallelfish]

Yes, Carrera bikes were/are available to the public. I have the Volans (white with blue highlights) and is a beautiful bike. Carrera is imported by Red Rose Imports. The most similar current model appears to be the Lima.

[ultraman6970]

I have one too...Podium is the name of the company producing carrera bikes lately. THey do everything in italy from what I understand.

Regarding that carrera in particular who knows... I always thought that ciocc was producing the old carrera bikes, so i really cant tell you if its true that some frames were made by de rosa... would not surprise me tho... even Somec manufactured the high end Minerva bike that were raced in the pro tour back in the day (minerva technically speaking never produced road bikes but somec did for them). so no idea if the dude is BSing or not just ot sell the bike, one detail.. .as in belgium, there's zillions of small teams in holland so who knows if that bike was a team bike but doesnt look one to me, but the paint job is weird not regular production at all...

The good thing is that if you buy the frame you will get a good frame, dutch bikes arent busted too much and shipping from there is quick also.

[paredown]

That bike is great, but I thought the history was a little off.

AFAIK. the bike brand Carrera Podium was an offshoot of the bike racing team--see the wiki article on the professional team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrera_%28cycling_team%29) that clearly states the bike company was started by the cycling team manager with partners in 1989, and that's what their own website (http://www.carrera-podium.it/en/the-brand) says as well.

According to this thread (http://forums.roadbikereview.com/cyclocross/carrera-made-italy-taiwan-312032.html) they made everything in house, including the more modern carbon frames.

Some more information on the Bicycle Renaissance page (http://bicyclerenaissance.com/articles/carrera-podium-the-mark-of-excellence-pg200.htm)

So I suspect, like Concorde there were lots of race heritage bikes, but lesser ones as well

[oldpotatoe]

Remember the "denim" shorts?

How much of the story does the seller of this frame have right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111675903653?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D1116759 03653%26_rdc%3D1

I can't remember if Carreras were ever marketed to the public, but this one looks like a regular production (not team) frame to me. I guess it could have been made for a team member to train on, but I wonder if they would have used Cromor for team bikes even for training. I love the paint on this and don't mind the Cromor tubes. If I wasn't knee, make that waste, deep in projects already........

Anyway, just wondering what's known about the Carrera branded frames.

Imported by RedRose Imports, I sold them and Mosers in the late 90s..nice frames. Made by 'Podium', I think...and Stephen Roche had some connection..since he rode on these frames.

[Web1111a]

Noticed it is a cro mor frame

Wouldn't that be a low end frame material?

[paredown]

Noticed it is a cro mor frame

Wouldn't that be a low end frame material?

lower--it is Columbus after all:banana:

Seriously, it is slightly heavier than a comparable SL frame (maybe 200g) and was seamed rather than drawn--but there are those that prefer its ride--there's lots of good stuff in this thread, including the link to the classic article where Mondonico built a series of identical bikes out of different tubing and asked riders to rate them:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=107943

[ultraman6970]

Hmm yes and no... columbus had produced a bunch of stuff that is basically the same stuff as ever but with slight mods... I had bikes with cromor and the tubes are ok, in the heavy side but nothing too noticeable (i never had super light bikes anyways). I believe cromor is a straight gauge tubing... heck even 531 came in straight gauge aswell... but you have to consider that this frame in particular is quite big... cromor can be a good choice to build such a large frame.

Noticed it is a cro mor frame

Wouldn't that be a low end frame material?

[redir]

I know some one who has one and raced it up until about a year ago since when he got it new in the 90's.

[DreaminJohn]

One of my favorite riders, Chiappucci:

http://www.bisikletsporu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/claudio-chiappucci-1024x830.jpg

[oliver1850]

Thanks for the info, figured it was a production frame.

Just a note on Cromor: It's butted just like SL, but has .1 mm thicker wall sections in DT, TT, and stays (ST, HT and fork are the same). It's in between SL and SP in thicknesses and weight. The tubeset weighs 165g more than SL, but would be a wee bit closer in weight once the tubes are shortened. SP is another 190 g heavier. Like SP, Cromor could be used on large frames where SL wasn't recommended.

[redir]

IIRC Aelle was the first in line of the non butted seemed tubing. Still descent stuff though marketed as entry level racing or sport touring.