View Full Version : High placed rider docked two minutes in Giro (spoiler)
Keith A
05-19-2015, 01:58 PM
Just catching up on some cycling news and saw that Richie Porte was been docked two minutes by the race jury after he received an illegal wheel change from Orica-GreenEdge’s Simon Clarke following his puncture in the closing kilometres of stage 10 of the Giro d’Italia.
I didn't realize that you couldn't help another team out with a wheel change. It sounds like Clarke stopped and gave him one of his wheels? What is interesting is that one of the pictures clearly shows a Sky rider near Porte...why wasn't he giving Richie his wheel?
Here's the full story from CyclingNews...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-richie-porte-docked-two-minutes
MattTuck
05-19-2015, 02:24 PM
Keith, maybe delete the other spoiler thread with Porte's name in the title? or merge them?
Here's my post in the other thread.
I mostly feel the way that I feel about the patriots thread.
I'd like to see equal application of the rules. Just the other day I saw a rider hand an opposing breakaway rider a water bottle from the first rider's team car. In the past, I've seen madison slings in leadout trains to opposing teams when a rider falls of pace. This is such a narrow interpretation of the rules, and rules that are applied selectively.
Please raise your hand if you believe the decision would have been the same if it had been an Italian rider.
What next, punishing a rider when someone on a different team is in his draft?
This was a show of sportsmanship and respect.
Keith A
05-19-2015, 02:50 PM
MattTuck -- Thanks for the heads up about the other discussion. I even looked to see if this had been posted, but didn't see anything. I also edited the title of the other thread so that it doesn't contain a spoiler.
Vinci
05-19-2015, 02:51 PM
Maybe Clarke was aware of the rule and wasn't helping him at all. Taking that wheel cost him another 2 minutes off his time...
CunegoFan
05-19-2015, 03:00 PM
It sounds like Clarke stopped and gave him one of his wheels? What is interesting is that one of the pictures clearly shows a Sky rider near Porte...why wasn't he giving Richie his wheel?
If the Sky rider gave Porte his wheel then he would not be available to help Porte chase back on. It may be the Sky rider was ignorant of the rule but it could have been a calculated decision.
A better question is why on a flat stage did Porte not have mutliple teammates there with him?
Jgrooms
05-20-2015, 07:13 AM
Porte should never have had to rely on another team - Aussie or otherwise - for a wheel. Sky blew it. So much for the details? Sorta like rules are rules.
JStonebarger
05-20-2015, 08:36 AM
...I'd like to see equal application of the rules. Just the other day I saw a rider hand an opposing breakaway rider a water bottle from the first rider's team car. In the past, I've seen madison slings in leadout trains to opposing teams when a rider falls of pace. This is such a narrow interpretation of the rules, and rules that are applied selectively...
I don't think this is a case of selective application. Rather, the infraction was so blatant it couldn't be ignored. (Note to Sky: in the future, when GC guy blatantly breaks the rules, don't immediately tweet about it to the whole world.)
By the way, sharing water bottles and food is not against the rules, and handslings are not allowed even between teammates. Enforcement of rules is difficult when there are dozens of riders and officials can't be everywhere. In this particular case, Sky messed up repeatedly (only one teammate around? the team car went by?), broke the rules in front of the camera, and boasted about it afterward. A penalty well deserved.
soulspinner
05-20-2015, 08:47 AM
porte should never have had to rely on another team - aussie or otherwise - for a wheel. Sky blew it. So much for the details? Sorta like rules are rules.
+1.
Keith A
05-20-2015, 08:48 AM
Interesting, I just saw a hand-sling the other day...I think this was in the Tour of California.
kgreene10
05-20-2015, 03:40 PM
I'm in Madrid and ride with my usual group today. They have defended leniency before but national loyalties seemed to come out today. No sympathy for RP around here. Well, except from me. I can see handing out a fine but not the time penalty. And for the record, I would kind of like to see AC pull off the double.
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