Pegoretti Info

[mdeeds71]

I am looking for insights into the Pegoretti frames. I am totaly enjoying riding my Hors and find the fit better than the CDA. So I am thinking about looking into a Peg to get a steel that is stiff and light for the hills and sprints out here in Nor Cal. Or would the AL/Scan Pegs be also a wise choice???

I know the Jerk is well schooled on these and would appreciate his insights.

[Too Tall]

Paging Matt Barkley.

[amg]

Any Pegoretti that fits is a wise choice.

Antonio

[dbrk]

Study closely Pegoretti numbers. Generally speaking, nice slack sta and plenty of setback (more than most other fixed geos bikes of this caliber).
Choose one that fits. The differences in models aren't significant enough to be outside your stated aspirations. In other words, they are all good for racing and long distance riding. Be aware: you'll not fit a Michelin 25c ProRace on a larger frame, for sure.

dbrk

[jerk]

they are all wonderful. you need a palosanto. you should get a marcelo.

jerk

[Aspen]

I have been debating between the Marcelo and Duende. The front triangle is the same and the rear is different. Is there that much difference in ride between the two for someone my weight, 135 lbs? How is the paint holding up on your frames?

[Loro_tomas]

Get the Marcelo. the jerk is 100% right. It is very smooth and very much a racing bike.



I have been debating between the Marcelo and Duende. The front triangle is the same and the rear is different. Is there that much difference in ride between the two for someone my weight, 135 lbs? How is the paint holding up on your frames?

The paint is very good, no problems there.


Loro

[catulle]

I apologize if this is not the place to elaborate on Pegoretti, but I´ll venture to proceed as there is a precedent.

Anyway, yesterday I received the Pegoretti catalog on the picture but other than a poem by Dario the information about the different models is nil. Like ndeeds71(?), I would like to be able to understand what the different Pegoretti frames are all about, or how and why they are different. Thanks.

[Climb01742]

i had a marcelo. a rocket. amd smooth. but it is stiff; it's a race bike, built to go fast. over bad roads, over a few hours, it beat me up a bit. personally, i'd get a duende. which i will at some point. if you're light, a cckmp is wonderful. can't wait to try a love #3.

[Moosedryvr]

I'd also love a first hand report on the Duende. Any info?

SPG

[Hysbrian]

Mine is rock solid...I love it. Its hard to explain but it just works...a love #3 would be great.

[catulle]

For anyone interested, the Competitive Cyclist site has a pretty good description of all the Pegoretti models.

[saab2000]

For anyone interested, the Competitive Cyclist site has a pretty good description of all the Pegoretti models.

Word

That place is cool. I have yet to buy anything from them, but they answered a couple e-mails quickly and well. Their descriptions of their products is terrific. It is clear that some 'real' cyclists are involved there.

[catulle]

Word

That place is cool. I have yet to buy anything from them, but they answered a couple e-mails quickly and well. Their descriptions of their products is terrific. It is clear that some 'real' cyclists are involved there.

I´ve only one small purchase from them, but I think they have the best web site bar none. I mean, their web site is the best not only among cycling sites, but the best of them all. Whoever designed that site must be given a medal or something, imho.

[SoCalSteve]

Study closely Pegoretti numbers. Generally speaking, nice slack sta and plenty of setback (more than most other fixed geos bikes of this caliber).
Choose one that fits. The differences in models aren't significant enough to be outside your stated aspirations. In other words, they are all good for racing and long distance riding. Be aware: you'll not fit a Michelin 25c ProRace on a larger frame, for sure.
dbrk

I have a very large Big Leg Emma 60 x 60...and, I have Michelin ProRace2 700 x 25's on this bike, with plenty of clearence.

I was told that they would not fit. They do and work marvelously.

Senor Jerk is a great source for anything Pegoretti. And, there is always the custom option.

Good luck,

Steve

[amg]

I apologize if this is not the place to elaborate on Pegoretti, but I´ll venture to proceed as there is a precedent.

Anyway, yesterday I received the Pegoretti catalog on the picture but other than a poem by Dario the information about the different models is nil. Like ndeeds71(?), I would like to be able to understand what the different Pegoretti frames are all about, or how and why they are different. Thanks.

Just curious, where did you get a catalog?

Antonio

[Grant McLean]

Just curious, where did you get a catalog?

Antonio

instant gratification:

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pdf/06pegoretti_catalog.pdf

-g

[amg]

instant gratification:

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pdf/06pegoretti_catalog.pdf

-g

Thanks, Grant. I was wondering if any '06 catalogs were in print?

Antonio

[Grant McLean]

Thanks, Grant. I was wondering if any '06 catalogs were in print?

Antonio

yes, I knew that's what you meant, but I couldn't fit a copy into the
monitor....a dealer should be able to give you one.

try here:
http://www.gitabike.com/cgi-bin/shop/sc_search2z.cgi?user_id=61771&database=dbase_dealer.exm&template=peg_dealer.htm&9=Yes&sort_field=5_aa&use_options=1

-g

[davids]

i had a marcelo. a rocket. amd smooth. but it is stiff; it's a race bike, built to go fast. over bad roads, over a few hours, it beat me up a bit. personally, i'd get a duende. which i will at some point. if you're light, a cckmp is wonderful. can't wait to try a love #3.
I want this Duende:

[dbrk]

I have a very large Big Leg Emma 60 x 60...and, I have Michelin ProRace2 700 x 25's on this bike, with plenty of clearence.

I was told that they would not fit. They do and work marvelously.

Steve

Not on mine. I was just down there to try again with yet another wheelset. Nope. So I suppose I just don't understand, which is okay. The 25c Mich ProRace tire touches the front derailleur clamp.

dbrk

[catulle]

Just curious, where did you get a catalog?

Antonio

The good people at Chicagoland sent it to me.

[jerk]

Not on mine. I was just down there to try again with yet another wheelset. Nope. So I suppose I just don't understand, which is okay. The 25c Mich ProRace tire touches the front derailleur clamp.

dbrk


it shouldn't fit. dario and the folks at gita said as much. for some strange reason on steve's frame it fits. no idea why. it shouldn't.

jerk

[Grant McLean]

it shouldn't fit. dario and the folks at gita said as much. for some strange reason on steve's frame it fits. no idea why. it shouldn't.

jerk

longer chainstays perhaps on his 60cm frame?
If his bike has a longish front center, maybe he left the
rear stays a little long for balance.

He could easily measure to find out.

You wouldn't think it was due to a steeper seat tube angle.

G

[jerk]

I apologize if this is not the place to elaborate on Pegoretti, but I´ll venture to proceed as there is a precedent.

Anyway, yesterday I received the Pegoretti catalog on the picture but other than a poem by Dario the information about the different models is nil. Like ndeeds71(?), I would like to be able to understand what the different Pegoretti frames are all about, or how and why they are different. Thanks.

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

[amg]

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

Word. If I'm not mistaken though, the Duende rear triangle is the same as the Palosanto, but with slightly larger diameter seat and chain stays. Am I correct?

Antonio

[Grant McLean]

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

Post of the Month!

-g

[Hysbrian]

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

Well said Jerk. Your not buying the bike for what it is, your buying it for what it has the potential to be ;)

[catulle]

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

Oh, thank you. I like the Luigino.

[SoCalSteve]

there's nothing beyond what is in those catalogs that anyone here needs to know about pegoretti frames. they are all race bikes; built with love and an exacting attention to detail and the pedigree of dozens of race victories oozing through and through. they are simple machines which don't follow any trends. you want to know the difference between the models?

the 8:30 is an aluminum race bike.

the love#3 is a slightly lighter aluminum race bike.

the palosanto is a steel race bike.

the marcelo is a slightly lighter steel race bike that may be a bit stiffer torsionally.

the duende is a marcelo with the less expensive rear end from a palosanto.

the big leg emma is the big leg emma.

see how much worse that sounds than comparing a bike to bob marley?

just ride one. you'll understand.

jerk

Since I own one, I'd like to know what you mean by that....LOL

Thanks,

Steve

[jerk]

Oh, thank you. I like the Luigino.


the jerk does too. although somehow, the jerk knows that the man who pioneered lugless tig construction in italy thinks the whole luigino project is as much a tribute as it is a post-modernist joke.....whenever he displays frames at trade shows or the like, there are always new things like the big leg emma or the love#3 that are pushing the envelope of race bike design in real non-market driven ways and then there are throngs of people taking pictures of a luigino with wooden rims on it and a saddle covered with fur. that being said, it's one of the only bikes in the world which doesn't insult the aesthetic of mrs. jerk.

jerk

[fiamme red]

Oh, thank you. I like the Luigino.It's only about $100 more than the Marcelo, and it comes with a steel fork, not an unpainted plastic Reynolds fork. So comparatively, it's a bargain. Why not paint a carbon fork to match the frame, or is the fork an afterthought? (Rhetorical question.)

[manet]

http://www.bikyle.com/PegMarcTrack.jpg

[catulle]

http://www.bikyle.com/PegMarcTrack.jpg

Wow, that's some pretty bicycle. I'd love to have an oil painting of that bike to hang in my house.

[The Spider]

what brand of seat posts are you people sliding into these frames...at 29.4mm they are an odd size...

[amg]

what brand of seat posts are you people sliding into these frames...at 29.4mm they are an odd size...

WR Compositi. WR makes some really nice carbon components, expensive though. You could also use a USE seat post shim. USE shims adapt a 27.2 to 29.4 as well as other sizes. That's what I'm using right now, but I wouldn't mind a WR seat post myself.

Antonio

[iPaul]

Can someone confirm the TT length on a 53 Peg? Chicagoland has it at 54.8 while Competitve cyclist lists it at 54.3? I'm kicking around going down 1 size from a 54 based on the shorter TT length, but not sure if its going to be worth giving up headtube height. Thanks

[Keith A]

How about going to the source itself? Here's the link (http://www.pegoretticicli.com/eng/sizes.htm) to Dario's website for the standard geometry.

[iPaul]

Thanks Keith. That's the same chart as on Chicago's site, so I'll assume the competitive one is off. Wish they listed the headtube length as I no longer trust the cc's site. Anyone have a 53 they can measure?

[edwardk]

drbk wrote:

Study closely Pegoretti numbers. Generally speaking, nice slack sta and plenty of setback (more than most other fixed geos bikes of this caliber).
Choose one that fits. The differences in models aren't significant enough to be outside your stated aspirations. In other words, they are all good for racing and long distance riding. Be aware: you'll not fit a Michelin 25c ProRace on a larger frame, for sure.

dbrk

One more datapoint. I have a 59cm 2005 Duende (purchased a couple of months at a closeout price from www.bikyle.com). No problems with clearance for the 25mm Michelin ProRace2's on my Pegoretti. Lots of problems getting them onto Campy Proton wheels, but that's a whole other thread.

edwardk

[TimD]

what brand of seat posts are you people sliding into these frames...at 29.4mm they are an odd size...

Thomson Elite (non-setback)

TimD

[sjbraun]

They fit fine on my 2005 58cm Marcelo.