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Bostic
01-25-2015, 08:28 PM
A few months ago while downshifting and getting ready to tackle a steep climb the chain went too far over and got wedged in real good between the frame and the chain ring. This was while going from the 39t to the 30t. I've dropped chains before but not like this. It took some effort (and cursing) to un-wedge it and get it back on to the 30t ring. It's a Pedal Force CG2 purchased when they were offering it initially through a group buy. I stripped it down and it's been sitting in the garage since then. Some days I do miss riding a 16lb bike, how bad does it look? I had it built up with an Ultegra triple with the Wheels Manufacturing BB30 adapters.

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Caballero
01-25-2015, 08:45 PM
Doesn't look to be structural just cosmetic from what I see.

bdawe
01-25-2015, 08:47 PM
Ride it, Nancy!

eBAUMANN
01-25-2015, 09:21 PM
Ride it, Nancy!

what he said haha

id ride that sucker without a moments hesitation.

throw a little nail polish on there if you must and its good to go!

Louis
01-25-2015, 09:43 PM
I'd ride it.

I bet the area's designed by stiffness, not stress, so stress-wise you probably have lots of extra material. That means that even if you do have structural damage, it's unlikely to get worse.

fogrider
01-25-2015, 10:04 PM
it's fine. back in the early days, some frames took a beating there. Trek put a protective titanium plate at the chainstay because the chain would get jammed between the chainring and the chainstay and that could do enough damage. but what this looks like is just some cosmetic scratches.

Dead Man
01-25-2015, 10:18 PM
all of the above, plus... ahve you ever watched them build these things? There's so much composite built up right there you could do that another 10 tens before you weakened it any

oldpotatoe
01-26-2015, 06:22 AM
Ride it, listen for strange sounds or creaks. Inspect occasionally. It's not going to break and hurt you, down there. I had a customer who was riding a bike where the seat tube, by the BB, was broken completely, all the way around..asking about a 'noise' when he rode it.

nooneline
01-26-2015, 08:16 AM
It's always hard to tell from a photo but it does look possible that that damage has gone beyond the clearcoat and to the carbon itself.

If you were to take this to a carbon repair person, they would do the carbon version of putting a piece of duct tape over it, and it would almost certainly cost you well under $100.

ergott
01-26-2015, 08:20 AM
Couldn't hurt to lay some epoxy over the unfinished carbon to protect it and prevent any further delamination.

Bostic
01-26-2015, 10:21 AM
Thank you for the replies everyone. The first picture, there a small ding that is deeper than the rest. I'm going to go ahead and do a clear nail polish job on the areas then build 'er back up.

lhuerta
01-26-2015, 10:21 AM
ride it....looks like clear coat and a bit of the carbon layer, but remember that the BB areas is where you will find the thickest layup of carbon.

More importantly, in order to avoid future chain suck damage, check your chain for wear; check your chainrings for wear or bent teeth. In order to avoid chain drop damage, adjust your front der properly; spend $15 on best insurance policy you will buy and get a chain catcher. Lastly, coat the damage with some clear nail polish, then get some Lizard Skins carbon tape and apply behind your chainrings in the areas that are subject to chain drop/suck damage.

RedRider
01-26-2015, 01:21 PM
I'll second the chaincatcher suggestion. We suggest installing them on all carbon frames regardless of the components used.
K-Edge comes in a couple models and a few colors.

mrogulja
01-26-2015, 03:30 PM
what he said haha

id ride that sucker without a moments hesitation.

throw a little nail polish on there if you must and its good to go!

not nail polish but clear epoxy glue...a thin coat on lightly sanded area will create a permanent cover

David Kirk
01-26-2015, 07:48 PM
Paging Nick Crumpton!

Dave

Peter P.
01-26-2015, 07:57 PM
Ride it, Nancy!

THAT was funny!

Louis
01-26-2015, 08:09 PM
I wouldn't bother trying to build it back up to the same thickness as the surrounding material. Whatever you put there won't be nearly as strong as the original CF material, of which you likely have plenty as it is. Plus there's no need to do it for cosmetic reasons.

I'd just cover it with a few coats of protective paint (clear epoxy) and forget about it.

Dead Man
01-26-2015, 08:34 PM
I wouldn't even bother with epoxy, unless you can get some unique industrial quality stuff- I used Loctite clear 5-minute to "repair" some torn carbon flakes in the rim of a wheel recently, and the stuff started the melt with just aceton, wiping down prior to gluing. I felt like the epoxy added basically zero strength, and isn't any more impervious than anything else you could put on it, so might as well use something that'll be easier to coat on well.

Bostic
02-01-2015, 10:38 PM
I brushed some clear polish on the scuffs and built Nancy back up last week. Took her on my usual 200k ride up to San Francisco and back. Early start so I could get home in time to order pizza for the game. I still have to get a K-Edge road clamp on for 34.9.

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Charles M
02-02-2015, 07:53 AM
Couldn't hurt to lay some epoxy over the unfinished carbon to protect it and prevent any further delamination.


Bingo.


Dont ride that without sealing it.

thomashassler
02-02-2015, 11:28 AM
two part epoxy from Home Depot. Let it cure for 5 min, slap it on with a popsicle stick, and lay a couple layers of gaffers tape over it for the night. Peel the tape off in the AM, sand, and you're back to normal. I have done this on a few carbon BB shells and it's not a problem.

FlashUNC
02-02-2015, 12:20 PM
Fwiw and at the expense of thread drift, I would not recommend a K-Edge. I'd more recommend something like a Dog Fang chain catcher.