Folding bike recommendations?

[Likes2ridefar]

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[charliedid]

Brompton (http://bikebuilder.brompton.com/)

[drsmile]

When Brompton is too pricey...

Dahon (http://dahon.com/mainnav/foldingbikes/all-folding-bikes.html)

They're not Brompton quality, but the Mu Uno and the Speed Uno are very popular.

[Likes2ridefar]

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[thirdgenbird]

Which model did you get?

[Likes2ridefar]

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[thirdgenbird]

The mu uno.

That looks like their best offering to me. Let us know what you think.

[Wilkinson4]

I had an Airnimal i had setup as a fixed gear. It was really a fantastic bike. Not sure why I sold it but i would recommend that if you want foldable that rides as well as a 'normal' bike.

http://www.airnimal.com

I got mine used off ebay and a decent price.

mIKE

[BobbyJones]

I was going to say Citibike!

On the days I don't do the full commute on the Brompton in favor of MetroNorth i've been leaving it at home in favor of the blue bikes. Pretty convenient.

[charliedid]

$1255 for the brompton is way more than I want to spend on a folding single speed bike.

Dahon looks good and $900 less. I'm a little concerned about the coaster brake reliability.

edit: i found another dahon that has a front brake and costs a little bit more. amazon prime have it on Tuesday. sweet!

Have fun!

[Likes2ridefar]

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[Likes2ridefar]

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[charliedid]

I will offer this as advice and I think those bikes can be a great choice and a really good value...we sold a pile of them in the past, especially to students.

That said, do yourself a big favor and be diligent about keeping it clean and lubed..

Rust seems to love those bikes.

Enjoy, they are fun bikes.

[Likes2ridefar]

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[charliedid]

Thanks, I did read a few reviews from people complaining about awful noises from they think the point where the bike folds.

Yeah, they are what they are, and for most people make much more economic sense for their intended purpose. I rode one for a while....and like all those little bikes you automatically smile when riding them.:-) Kinda like a fat bike that's not at all fat just really fun in a pure way.

[roguedog]

Wow.. no one's mentioned a Bike Friday in this thread yet?

I've never heard of Airnimal. How do they differ or compare to the BF?

The one folding bike I've read good reviews and isn't a huge dent in your pocketbook is the Xootr Swift. I like that it takes standard components so you can play around with whatever config you feel like with your leftover parts. However, they don't fold up tiny like a BF or a Brompton. Just depends on which trade off you're willing to make, I guess.

http://www.xootr.com/folding-bicycle-8-speed.html

[tumbler]

Brompton. I commute with mine daily in NYC. The small fold makes all the difference. I roll it under subway turnstiles, carry it on the bus, bring it through revolving doors (did this today), and pretty much do everything on it. It's a brilliant little machine. I recommend getting the rear rack with the easy wheels, which make rolling it around a breeze.

The only downside is that it's quite the conversation piece and I occasionally get tired of explaining it to old ladies in elevators.

[Ken Robb]

he wants a $300 +/- bike which limits his options but he can get something that will work for his purpose. OTOH if he spent more he might get a bike that would work for his commute and open other riding possibilities too.

[ceolwulf]

Moulton (http://www.moultonbicycles.co.uk)

http://www.moultonbicycles.co.uk/images/models/DoubleP_Lrg.jpg

:banana:

Oh wait $300 nevermind then ;)

[Likes2ridefar]

he wants a $300 +/- bike which limits his options but he can get something that will work for his purpose. OTOH if he spent more he might get a bike that would work for his commute and open other riding possibilities too.

This! I don't want other riding possibilities. It will be from gct to work and occasionally for errands during lunch.

Should've said originally!

I cancelled the Amazon Dahon since I discovered it's an older version without the belt drive. The mu uno is therefore out of reach at 800.

[carpediemracing]

When in a similar situation I looked for a bit for a used folding bike on CL and similar. I even considered a folding bike so if I travel for non-cycling purposes I could just do a folded bike in a suitcase thing. I abandoned the idea so far only because I would "project creep" into a multiple S&S coupling frame a la Zinn (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OIrCYr_OP7k/Tm7usGu8reI/AAAAAAAADlQ/ltsbZ6pVpmE/s800/2011-09-12_09-46-36_987.jpg).

I haven't seen the name in the thread but I rode a Tern at Interbike (I think the same year as the Zinn bike pic, 2011), back to back with a Dahon, and it seemed to be much more stable/rigid. There's some backstory to Tern as it's the son of the Dahon guy or something like that, and they were battling each other in court. Ultimately though the bike does ride more predictably than the other folding bikes I've ridden.

Not sure if the Tern folds small enough to meet MTA/other requirements. A quick Google shoes that they appear to be in the $600 range full price (at first glance it looks like REI is branding a version as their own Novora line), $435 from one online place. No idea on how current the discounted one is, nor what changes they've made in the last few years.

[pbarry]

I've had one of these: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/4829964198.html used for commuting to a park and ride. Really fun to ride.

[charliedid]

Go see these guys: http://www.nycewheels.com/tern-folding-bike-link-uno-trolley.html

[Likes2ridefar]

Go see these guys: http://www.nycewheels.com/tern-folding-bike-link-uno-trolley.html

nice! that one looks perfect. thanks

[thegunner]

you tellin me we can have cat 6 races down the WSH now?

[fiamme red]

I was going to say Citibike!

On the days I don't do the full commute on the Brompton in favor of MetroNorth i've been leaving it at home in favor of the blue bikes. Pretty convenient.Can you rely on a Citi Bike to be available at GCT on a weekday after 7 a.m.?

[Likes2ridefar]

Can you rely on a Citi Bike to be available at GCT on a weekday after 7 a.m.?

and to park it by GOOGLE.

but i cant even sign up so i'm probably not going to bother. i tried again this AM on a different computer and it says every user name I try is taken.

just the time spent searching for the bike and parking it I'd probably be at work already on my own.

i had no idea the folding bikes would cost so much though.

[Likes2ridefar]

you tellin me we can have cat 6 races down the WSH now?

yeah! i just need to find one of the pesky bikes. i really thought i'd be out around $200-300 for a single speed version but most that are decent are $500+ easy and many more than that.

[abalone]

The problem with folders are the wheel size. The wheels that look like kids BMX bike. I would love to have a folding bike. i would just want 700c wheels.

[Likes2ridefar]

The problem with folders are the wheel size. The wheels that look like kids BMX bike. I would love to have a folding bike. i would just want 700c wheels.

they come in all sorts of sizes but train compliant is the 20" size. schwalbe makes my favorite tires in that size so everything is looking rosy. I just need the bike!

[thegunner]

and to park it by GOOGLE.

but i cant even sign up so i'm probably not going to bother. i tried again this AM on a different computer and it says every user name I try is taken.

just the time spent searching for the bike and parking it I'd probably be at work already on my own.

i had no idea the folding bikes would cost so much though.

good luck in the morning, the one row of bikes i can think of for parking is usually saturated by 8 am :-/

[abalone]

they come in all sorts of sizes but train compliant is the 20" size. schwalbe makes my favorite tires in that size so everything is looking rosy. I just need the bike!


What do you mean? Most all folding bikes come with 20" wheels and do not come with 700c wheels. And as far as I recall, the NY Transit authority, just mandated a rule that people could bring aboard a folding bike, but there was no stipulation on wheel size.

It's a shame that there is such a lack of 700c folding bikes.

[Likes2ridefar]

What do you mean? Most all folding bikes come with 20" wheels and do not come with 700c wheels. And as far as I recall, the NY Transit authority, just mandated a rule that people could bring aboard a folding bike, but there was no stipulation on wheel size.

It's a shame that there is such a lack of 700c folding bikes.

i dont know the specific rule but i mean i do not want to carry a heavy bike around with gears daily through rush hour traffic (people) and then where to put it on the train. major hassle...

for example:

http://www.montaguebikes.com/fit-folding-bike.html

[thirdgenbird]

What do you mean? Most all folding bikes come with 20" wheels and do not come with 700c wheels. And as far as I recall, the NY Transit authority, just mandated a rule that people could bring aboard a folding bike, but there was no stipulation on wheel size.

It's a shame that there is such a lack of 700c folding bikes.

I don't see the market for folding 700c bikes. 700c travel bikes that fit into large luggage sure, but not folding. The beauty of a folding bike is the ability too quickly break it down and store/carry it. Two 700c wheels is already a pretty large package without the frame to connect them.

[bargainguy]

I have a bunch of folders. My take:

Bike Friday - best options for customizing. Cheapest way to emulate your road bike. I bought the screamin' raspberry Pocket Rocket Pro on this forum used for ~$1000 w/case and customized to my needs for another couple hundred. $$$ - $$$$

Brompton - wonderful engineering but limited OLD (111mm) means limited gearing, kinda wonky riding position for me at least. Most compact fold tho. $$$$

Dahon - innovative, but watch for proprietary part supply issues. $$ - $$$

Montague - great if you like heavy folding MTBs. $$ - $$$

Giant Halfway/Expressway etc. - clunky fold, proprietary parts again. $$ - $$$

Moulton - possibly the pinnacle, esp. the spaceframes & Bridgestone variants. $$$$

Airnimal - great idea, great 3-level fold, but 24" tire size greatly limits selection. $$$

[abalone]

I don't see the market for folding 700c bikes. 700c travel bikes that fit into large luggage sure, but not folding. The beauty of a folding bike is the ability too quickly break it down and store/carry it. Two 700c wheels is already a pretty large package without the frame to connect them.


People used to think that there wouldn't be a market for the telephone. Seriously. When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, people lauded it as a great invention and would work well for military purposes, but there wouldn't be a need for it in the home.

Bottom line: There is a HUGE demand for a 700c folding bike, with or without gears. The fact that hardly any company makes them doesn't mean that they shouldn't. There is money to be made there.

[thirdgenbird]

People used to think that there wouldn't be a market for the telephone. Seriously. When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, people lauded it as a great invention and would work well for military purposes, but there wouldn't be a need for it in the home.

Bottom line: There is a HUGE demand for a 700c folding bike, with or without gears. The fact that hardly any company makes them doesn't mean that they shouldn't. There is money to be made there.

A 700c folding bike isn't the next phone. It is a product that exists and doesn't sell well. You don't see them often because people don't buy them, not because they don't exist.

A 700c folding bike is more like a subcompact car that gets the fuel milage of a midsize sedan. You get a marginal benifit for your sacrifices.

Why do you think there is this HUGE demand? What is your proof?

Folding bikes are great for people that commute and need a small package to get on the train/subway/cab and then store in an office. A 700c folding bike bike is much larger than a 20in bike and is impractical for this. As a point of referance, a folding or travel bike with 700c wheels won't even fit in the trunk of some cars.

Travel bikes are often used for long rides and need to replicate a normal bike as best as possible. 700c wheels are fine here because they just fit in an airline case (way larger than something you want to carry around daily) and allow the bike to feel normal.

http://www.foldingbike20.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/montague-crosstown-3.jpg
http://therecycletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Mini-Folding-Bike.jpg
http://www.adventure-journal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adventure_journal__folding-bike_660.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/1/26/1296068166444/A-Brompton-folding-bike-007.jpg
Front wheel out, no fenders, and it fills the trunk
http://www.montaguebikes.com/assets/galleries/311/fit-in-mini-sm.jpg
Both wheels on, full fenders, and it fits much better. This also isn't nearly as compact as the green 20in above.
http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/2011/05/0minifolbik03.jpg
I can't say for sure, but it appears the rear seat on the first car is straight up at 90 degrees. The seat in the second picture looks latched in the standard passenger position.

wheels are the largest volume in the bike. If the intentionion is to make a bike that gets small, small wheels are the key. If you still disagree, by all means, fill the "huge demand" with your own line.

[mecse]

ive decided to skip the last step of my commute, the awesome nyc subway, and ride a folding bike from grand central to Chelsea. It's not far, thirty streets and three avenues down/over.

The mta allows small folding bikes during peak hours. I'd prefer as lightweight and easy to use as possible. One speed is fine even fixed. I have no idea what is out there...

Citibike is the obvious even simpler choice, but it's unreliable.

If you're happy enough to ride anything, two people I know ride a "Strida" for their post-train commute around the city. It folds in one motion, from memory, and they're all belt drive.

One of these:
http://www.strida.com/en/products/?method=listing&sid=11

[abalone]

Why do you think there is this HUGE demand? What is your proof?

Folding bikes are great for people that commute and need a small package to get on the train/subway/cab and then store in an office. A 700c folding bike bike is much larger than a 20in bike and is impractical for this. As a point of referance, a folding or travel bike with 700c wheels won't even fit in the trunk of some cars.


Ther is a HUGE demand for 700c folding bikes. There are many people, like myself, who don't want a small wheel folding bike. I even had one! I would prefer to have a 700c folding bike.

The NYCTransit recommends folding type of bikes, but they don't mandate epwheel size. And contrary to your statement that "700c wheel won't even fit in the trunk of some cars", they actually DO fit into the vast majority of car trunks. Add to that the ability to fold tHe bike and you got yourself a winner.

Do you have any proof that there isn't any demand for 700c folding bikes?

[thirdgenbird]

Ther is a HUGE demand for 700c folding bikes. There are many people, like myself, who don't want a small wheel folding bike. I even had one! I would prefer to have a 700c folding bike.

The NYCTransit recommends folding type of bikes, but they don't mandate epwheel size. And contrary to your statement that "700c wheel won't even fit in the trunk of some cars", they actually DO fit into the vast majority of car trunks. Add to that the ability to fold tHe bike and you got yourself a winner.

Do you have any proof that there isn't any demand for 700c folding bikes?

They won't fit in some cars is the same thing as they fit in the majority.... I'm not implying they won't fit in a lot of cars, I was just trying to lend an example.

I couldn't care less if nyctransit doesn't mandate wheel size. Carying 700c wheels it a congested area still blows.

Proof? Not definitive. evidence? Sure. 700c folding bike have existed for years and the only purchased ones I've seen have been selling for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist while 20in folding bikes dominate the market and retain value. It's not through evidence, but far more than one guy on the Internet saying there is a HUGE demand. Again, prove me wrong. Start a line of folding bikes. There are pleanty of Asian production facilities that would love your buisness. Some of them probabably already have designs you could market.

Edit: more evidence? You seem to be the only one on this thread pushing 700c folding bikes. In this miniature folding bike survey, 700c represents a small fraction of the already small market.

[Likes2ridefar]

I really like the moulton tsr2. it seems like it's about $1200 with the current conversion but unsure of availability in the US.

two gears, belt drive, full suspension, about the same weight as the mu uno...

[fiamme red]

I really like the moulton tsr2. it seems like it's about $1200 with the current conversion but unsure of availability in the US.

two gears, belt drive, full suspension, about the same weight as the mu uno...It's a great bike, but it doesn't fold, it separates, so not practical for mass transit.

[tumbler]

I have to agree with thirdgenbird. I have conversations with strangers on a daily basis as I commute with my Brompton (no, I do not start them). Almost all of the conversations are about the small fold and how portable the bike seems. People ask how big it gets when it's unfolded, if it's heavy to roll around, if they let you bring it in stores, etc. I have yet to hear someone say that they would like a folder if it had full size wheels. That's not to say there isn't a potential niche of people who would like that sort of thing, but I believe the majority in the market see the primary benefits of a folder as small size and portability rather than speed, handling, ride quality, etc.

[Likes2ridefar]

It's a great bike, but it doesn't fold, it separates, so not practical for mass transit.

Bummer! Thanks for pointing it out.

[Likes2ridefar]

Maybe I will learn how to run...

[ceolwulf]

Skateboard?

[Likes2ridefar]

Skateboard?

Not sure winter skateboarding is a great idea. I was really set on 20" Schwalbe studded tires.

I normally ride a motorcycle to work but for a few reasons won't be doing so through March.

Thus the cheap bike idea. But now it's looking like a grand for anything decent.

[fiamme red]

Brompton: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/4835203577.html

Dahon: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/4837190646.html

[Likes2ridefar]

Brompton: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/4835203577.html

Dahon: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/4837190646.html

Second is nicely priced. Thanks! I'll see if I can work something out.

[sashae]

You could also street lock a wretched beater - theft may be an issue but a $20 garage sale varsity spray painted black isnt much of a theft target.

[cmbicycles]

No personal experience, but these are designed/marketed somewhat locally to me. Prices seem decent but no idea on quality firsthand.

http://www.origamibicycles.com

[pbarry]

Another option: Buy some nice running shoes from Paragon Sports and be faster through the traffic. No tickets and no folding/packing/storing issues. Your VO2 max will increase exponentially vs. riding a folder along the same route. ;)

[Likes2ridefar]

Another option: Buy some nice running shoes from Paragon Sports and be faster through the traffic. No tickets and no folding/packing/storing issues. Your VO2 max will increase exponentially vs. riding a folder along the same route. ;)

i think this is the easiest option...and i'm scrubbed at work so no worries about dress code.

i'll try it next week and see how it goes.

[oavens]

The Xootr is affordable, uncomplicated, reasonably light, and can be made to go fast. Here is a pic of a Xootr in my office. It provides a wonderful platform for customizing with regard to parts. This one has drop bars and a campy veloce rd with a Capreo 9-26 cogset (Jtek adjusted).

[abalone]

Proof? Not definitive. evidence? Sure. 700c folding bike have existed for years and the only purchased ones I've seen have been selling for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist while 20in folding bikes dominate the market and retain value. It's not through evidence, but far more than one guy on the Internet saying there is a HUGE demand. Again, prove me wrong. Start a line of folding bikes. There are pleanty of Asian production facilities that would love your buisness. Some of them probabably already have designs you could market.


What do you mean "start a line of folding bikes"? It's not like it's super easy to start a business. My point isn't for me to start a business to sell anything. I'm not a seller. I'm a buyer, and I would buy a 700c folding bike, particularly in a fixed gear format so that there is no rear brake to get in the way.

Anyway, just because you don't see lots of folding bike manufacturers making 700c folding bikes, does not mean that there is no demand. On the contrary, the demand is HUGE for a 700c folding bike with gears, or my preference fixed and without gears. Think about all those 700c S&S couplers. The very existence of those bikes and the large numbers of those bikes out there only confirms that there would be enormous demand for a 700c folding bike.

[thirdgenbird]

The evidence isn't the lack of manufactures, it is the lack of buyers. I don't recal ever seeing one on the road.

Coupled bikes and folding bikes serve different purposes.

It's obvious this isn't worth my time however. If you are a buyer, then buy one.

[Likes2ridefar]

Coupled bikes and folding bikes serve different purposes.

agreed, and neither in 700c serve mine:)

[abalone]

The evidence isn't the lack of manufactures, it is the lack of buyers. I don't recal ever seeing one on the road.

Coupled bikes and folding bikes serve different purposes.

It's obvious this isn't worth my time however. If you are a buyer, then buy one.



That is your opinion, but that opinion is hardly based on any good evidence, or really any evidence at all.

[Likes2ridefar]

That is your opinion, but that opinion is hardly based on any good evidence, or really any evidence at all.

take a poll on the forum and see what happens. my guess is over 90% have no interest in a folding 700c bike. coupled...what part of the cycling population even knows these exist? a luxury many that travel with bikes, or wish to travel with bikes, would like to have but can't afford since even cheaper frames like surly's cross check are usually well north of $1000.

[thirdgenbird]

That is your opinion, but that opinion is hardly based on any good evidence, or really any evidence at all.

I guess it's pretty clear myself and all these manufactures are ignorant to the true market needs.

[Likes2ridefar]

I guess it's pretty clear myself and all these manufactures are ignorant to the true market needs.

my friend owns a factory that makes carbon bikes. i think it's time i shoot him an email to let me him now about this market segment begging for product.

[thirdgenbird]

my friend owns a factory that makes carbon bikes. i think it's time i shoot him an email to let me him now about this market segment begging for product.

Send him a PowerPoint slide that says "HUGE market." How could he deny that evidence?

[gdw]

I learned something new today.... trolls like 700c folding bikes.:banana:

[thirdgenbird]

But trolls are 26in
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/troll

Sorry, I will see myself out...

[Likes2ridefar]

But trolls are 26in
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/troll

Sorry, I will see myself out...

yes its the ogre that is 700c. i had one briefly. it seemed like it could be a good bike for I'm not sure what, but the elitist paceline member (me) could not tolerate the stock deore components and heavy wheels. so i returned it to REI.

[pbarry]

I always liked that old Fuji design, but they weighed a ton.

[drsmile]

I think these bikes fit 2 market niches:

1) Travel bike - This is a bike owners take on trips typically involving airplane flights. The owners tend to be uncompromising with regards to performance and weight, so a coupled or Breakaway bike is the bike of choice. Full sized wheels and light weight makes for long, comfortable rides. The riders tend to be athletes and ride for exercise or touring purposes.

2) Commuter bike - This is a bike owners buy to solve the "first and last mile" problem, meaning the bike gets them to work in urban environments or to the bus or train in suburban environments. These bikes need to be truly portable and easily dis- and assembled, so a folding bike fits that bill perfectly. It compromises on performance and weight but for a couple of miles it is an adequate solution. The riders tend to be commuters, not necessarily athletes.

Obviously there may be some overlap and other uses for these bikes, but those two niches is what bikes are currently made for. A folding bike that weighs 12 lbs would be wonderful, but likely too expensive to merit production.

When you look at the niches you can see the possibility of encroachment on the folding bikes by things like folding electric scooters (and electric bikes). For a couple of miles the exercise component isn't really worthwhile, so electric solutions that you can plug in sound good and are less sweaty... Once the scooter designers figure out that their scooters don't have to go 20 miles you'll see 10 lb scooters being made with a ~3-5 mile range. The only caveat to this will be regulations, as many states require registration and insurance on any scooter or bike with a motor (electric included). If we ever get to a point where there are many electric bikes/scooters being used, you'll see these regulations being enforced. Mind you there are significant downsides to scooters, stability and surface roughness tolerance being two. There are some failed scooters like this on Kickstarter, probably the most famous one being:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1181257820/impossible-0

Me personally I have a Breakaway for cycling trips only. I considered an electric bike and scooter for commutes, but figured out that the 1.2 mile walk to the train station was much healthier and really didn't take that long.

[charliedid]

yes its the ogre that is 700c. i had one briefly. it seemed like it could be a good bike for I'm not sure what, but the elitist paceline member (me) could not tolerate the stock deore components and heavy wheels. so i returned it to REI.

Troll is Disc compatible so it's whatever you want it to be. I had one for a minute.

[Nags&Ducs]

They won't fit in some cars is the same thing as they fit in the majority.... I'm not implying they won't fit in a lot of cars, I was just trying to lend an example.

I couldn't care less if nyctransit doesn't mandate wheel size. Carying 700c wheels it a congested area still blows.

Proof? Not definitive. evidence? Sure. 700c folding bike have existed for years and the only purchased ones I've seen have been selling for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist while 20in folding bikes dominate the market and retain value. It's not through evidence, but far more than one guy on the Internet saying there is a HUGE demand. Again, prove me wrong. Start a line of folding bikes. There are pleanty of Asian production facilities that would love your buisness. Some of them probabably already have designs you could market.

Edit: more evidence? You seem to be the only one on this thread pushing 700c folding bikes. In this miniature folding bike survey, 700c represents a small fraction of the already small market.

take a poll on the forum and see what happens. my guess is over 90% have no interest in a folding 700c bike. coupled...what part of the cycling population even knows these exist? a luxury many that travel with bikes, or wish to travel with bikes, would like to have but can't afford since even cheaper frames like surly's cross check are usually well north of $1000.

Not to hijack your thread L2RF, but coincidentally, I've just started looking at a city/commuter bike to keep at my crash pad in EWR. And rather than a beater bike, I started entertaining the idea of a folding bike. None of the 20" wheeled folders appeal to me so I started looking at 700c folders. I guess I'm one of the rarities that want a 700c folder.

Here are three that fit the bill.

An interesting new offering- http://changebike.com/news20121102.html;

From the maker of one of the pioneers of the full-size folders: Montague- http://www.montaguebikes.com/boston-folding-single-speed-bike.html

One of most innovative I've seen, and priced accordingly- http://www.nycewheels.com/if-mode-folding-bike.html.

I really like all of these but the IF Pacific is too much at $2700. I'm leaning toward the Montague Boston and the Boston 8.

[Likes2ridefar]

no worries, i've resolved my commute issues.

i gave up on the bike and am glad I did.

I simply run from GCT to my office. I beat my best subway time by 5 minutes and usually by more.

I'm not so sure the evening train commuters enjoy me showing up dripping sweat, but they haven't vocally complained or gotten up and moved yet so I guess I don't stink too bad:)

[thirdgenbird]

Weirdo ;)


700c folding is a niche. Great if that works for you.

[thegunner]

no worries, i've resolved my commute issues.

i gave up on the bike and am glad I did.

I simply run from GCT to my office. I beat my best subway time by 5 minutes and usually by more.

I'm not so sure the evening train commuters enjoy me showing up dripping sweat, but they haven't vocally complained or gotten up and moved yet so I guess I don't stink too bad:)

how fast are you from GCT to the office?

[Likes2ridefar]

how fast are you from GCT to the office?

About sixteen minutes usually. It's 2.34 miles according to strava. I have to stop a few times usually but I try to get to eight ave. and then just run down the bike path.