FS 1992 Masi 3V Olympic 1992 SOLD

[Mattbotak]

Selling a Masi Olympic 1992 frame and fork. Condition is OK, it has been touched up and there are areas where the paint has worn through. Seat tube has dent.

Top tube center to center is 58cm
Seat tube center to center is 60cm
Seat tube center to top is 62cm
Head tube end to end is 18.6cm

$700 net, price drop $650 net.....$550 net $500 net

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[PETER REID]

pm'ed you

[Wolfman]

OMG. For me that's a dream bike.

I've never seen one of these in white. So glad that's not a 58, because I'd have to get in line really, really quick.

GLWS.

[Mattbotak]

Bump, still available.

[Steve in SLO]

I have one of these and is a great, stiff frame. Impressive given its vintage.

[Mattbotak]

Bump and price drop.

[Mattbotak]

Bump and price drop. Open to trades for vintage MTB stuff.

[seanile]

id remove that 62cm from the title, you're probably having a few potential buyers skip over the listing because they see 62cm, which isn't the true size for this thing. the 60st would be the advertised size, but the 58tt is more important for most people.

[Lewis Moon]

This would make s sweeeeet fixie for some hipster...just sayin'








(obligatory eye roll smiley)

[tv_vt]

What is the ride like?

[Wolfman]

Oh, you are killing me! I gotta sleep on this one...

[weisan]

Oh no! Tai pal is in danger!

[kvnmuadib]

pm'd you

[KidWok]

Oh no! Tai pal is in danger!

hahaha...I actually tried to get one of these ages ago...753 OS tubing. It arrived in damaged condition and I sent it back. Would be nice to try one out...the thin-wall, larger diameter tubing might be similar to the Waterford OS2 tubing I love. I've got three lugged steel bikes that I love already...think I'm set!

Tai

[LouDeeter]

At this price, someone needs to buy it quick! Should sell for twice the amount. These commemorative frames (Russian Team, 60th Jubilee, Barcelona) have an interesting history. I'm not sure how much is truth and how much is internet banter. Torelli Imports was involved in commissioning some of them and many were built under contract by Mondonico. I owned a Jubilee 60th Anniversary that was one of the sweetest looking and riding frames I've owned. Regardless, they all seem to be well made and dynamite to ride. Plus, they have that specialness that isn't always the case with run-of-the-mill frames. http://masi.gregfletcher.net/masi/html/faliero/faliero_masi.html (http://masi.gregfletcher.net/masi/html/faliero/faliero_masi.html)

[Mattbotak]

At this price, someone needs to buy it quick! Should sell for twice the amount. These commemorative frames (Russian Team, 60th Jubilee, Barcelona) have an interesting history. I'm not sure how much is truth and how much is internet banter. Torelli Imports was involved in commissioning some of them and many were built under contract by Mondonico. I owned a Jubilee 60th Anniversary that was one of the sweetest looking and riding frames I've owned. Regardless, they all seem to be well made and dynamite to ride. Plus, they have that specialness that isn't always the case with run-of-the-mill frames. http://masi.gregfletcher.net/masi/html/faliero/faliero_masi.html (http://masi.gregfletcher.net/masi/html/faliero/faliero_masi.html)

Great article, thanks.

[Mattbotak]

What is the ride like?

Purchased the bike for the campy group. Unfortunately the frame was far too big for me so i never got to ride it.

[bobswire]

hahaha...I actually tried to get one of these ages ago...753 OS tubing. It arrived in damaged condition and I sent it back. Would be nice to try one out...the thin-wall, larger diameter tubing might be similar to the Waterford OS2 tubing I love. I've got three lugged steel bikes that I love already...think I'm set!

Tai

That's why one should never say never. Something like this comes along at that price point and it fits,well..... Had three of these frames, all were too large but still couldn't let them pass without at least trying to make them work. If someone has one these frames or Cervelo Prodigy taking up space in this kind of condition in a 54 cm at this price point shoot me pm, worth breaking my pledge of not needing another bike.;)

[pcb]

PLEASE get this lovely/special frame to New Jersey, my brother!

pm'd you

[paredown]

Bob Hovey's site (http://bhovey.com/Masi/Nationality.htm) has some information on the 3Vs--it is a complicated history about when and where they were made:

Another easy call: If your bike is a Team 3V, it is American. But not necessarily American built... it may have been built elsewhere under subcontract (probably by Billato or Mondonico), but it is considered a US bike.
....

After 1974, most Italian Masi Prestiges, Gran Criteriums and 3V's had two or three digit date codes (two digit year followed by one or two digit month). Some time in the 90's I believe the year and month were reversed and sometimes a day was added as well (so in this case the date code might contain as many as six digits). These date codes are usually recognizable because they were done with a smaller size stamp than the frame size stamp. Some 80's Italian bikes, mostly 3V's, do occasionally turn up with serial numbers. They are usually three digits and are in the larger sized stamp that was used to stamp the frame size. These bikes are immediately recognizable as they are about the only Masis with three sets of numbers. There is one other instance of a third number appearing on Italian Masis, most often one, but occasionally two digits. This stamp is said to be a repaint number, applied when one took the frame back to Alberto for a respray. The number is usually located on the lower drive side chainstay tang of the bottom bracket, but once in a while it is seen on the BB shell itself below the date code or frame size stamps.

The 3V (Tre Volumetrica) began as Alberto's design and the first ones were probably built at the Vigorelli until sales began to outpace the capabilities of the small shop, at which time production probably moved to (or was augmented by) one or more subcontrators. The bike's growing popularity began to be felt in the US as well, but Alberto was still bound by the agreement that his father had made in 1973 (that Masi USA would retain all rights to the Masi name). But here was a bike design that was popular enough to potentially heal the rift, or to at least open the door to allow Alberto's bikes back into the US. Around 1983 or 1984, Alberto and Masi Worldwide struck a deal to allow the 3V to be sold in America. It is these mid-'80's 3V's that are probably the hardest to differentiate as being American or Italian. Sometimes there will be red, white and blue banner stripes (or US flag banner) on the seat tube (see the seat tube page of "Masi Bits") but the earliest bikes sold by Masi USA in the mid 80's looked exactly like the Italian ones. That's because at this point in Masi USA's sales agreement with Alberto, these were the same bikes from the same builder and had the same paint (often a pearl or opalescent topcoat) and decals. It is these 3V's that stretch our basic premise (that the nationality of the bike is considered to be that of the company selling it) to the breaking point... here we have two bikes, one (supposedly) American and one Italian, that are for all practical purposes identical with no real way to tell them apart. Any reasonable person would consider both bikes Italian, but some might argue that technically (or legally) they were different products.

Around 1987, 3V production began in the US and these 3V's are more easily recognized by Jim Allen's Imron paint and the Campagnolo dropouts (the Italian 3V dropouts were proprietary and socketed, like the lugs) as well as the Henry James crown. Alberto's 3V's and the earlier US-marketed 3V's had Alberto's slot-shouldered crown.

By the mid 90's most of the American 3V, Team 3V and Gran Criterium production went to Italian subcontractors (though a few custom orders continued to be built here, probably by Ted Kirkbride) so as with the Gran Corsa and Nuova Strada, we have a case of Italian frames that were sold as American. Some of the Team 3V's were painted in Italy with a few basic colors, but the greater majority of these frames were painted and decaled here by Jim Allen.

The topic is near and dear to me--I have a project 3V

Mine is not the Cyrillic one, not the one with the manufacturers' stickers including Power Bar but the plain frame that (I believe) is late construction (so probably built by the Italian subcontractors, and I think most likely Billato, NTTAWT) with a crack in the top tube.

I tried to roll out a dent, and either caused or exposed the crack and I am still debating if it is worth getting the tube replaced, since there are other areas of concern and paint to consider.

[Mattbotak]

PM's responded to. Still available.