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pbarry
11-07-2014, 08:42 PM
This will be interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/nyregion/a-lower-speed-limit-takes-effect-in-the-city-lower-speed-maybe-not-much.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Really curious about enforcement, especially in CP, and streets like Second Ave., south of 59th.

tumbler
11-07-2014, 09:18 PM
Yep. I appreciate the effort, but I can't imagine the police pulling over a meaningful amount of speeders. If they were serious about enforcement, they would install more speed and red light cameras.

ultraman6970
11-07-2014, 09:25 PM
The last time I went to NYC I almost had to get new shocks, roads were just a real POS, wonder were the 12 bucks to get into the city are going to :D

So no idea how you can even go faster in down town. Hope that helps the cyclist tho.

johnmdesigner
11-08-2014, 10:10 AM
http://gothamist.com/2014/11/07/dmv_liao_killed_tickets.php

tumbler
11-08-2014, 11:43 AM
http://gothamist.com/2014/11/07/dmv_liao_killed_tickets.php

So sad and far too common here. At least every few months, there is a story like this and almost every time, the driver walks away with nothing more than a minor ticket. I've punched a number of windows on cars that nearly ran me over in the crosswalk. Occasionally the driver isn't looking, but more often, they assume that pedestrians will just get out of their way. It happens everyday in plain view of the traffic enforcement agents and I've never witnessed them stop anyone.

There's a lot of talk about this being all about revenue, but I genuinely believe that the mayor, DOT, and other activists (e.g. Transportation Alternatives) have good intentions. If this was about revenue, they could have avoided the hassle of a new law and simply ticketed the endless stream of vehicles already exceeding the previous 30mph limit. The key to safer streets will be actual enforcement. Whether or not this will improve remains to be seen.

ByronApp
11-08-2014, 09:09 PM
Well said. Like the general sentiment, I believe cameras and true enforcement will ultimately make the streets safer. I'm sure they will be installed, first in school zones and then slowly throughout Manhattan in strategic corridors.

25 vs 30mph seems like a small difference but in conjunction with numerous other factors (redesigning traffic patterns, etc.) will have an effect on traffic speed.

So sad and far too common here. At least every few months, there is a story like this and almost every time, the driver walks away with nothing more than a minor ticket. I've punched a number of windows on cars that nearly ran me over in the crosswalk. Occasionally the driver isn't looking, but more often, they assume that pedestrians will just get out of their way. It happens everyday in plain view of the traffic enforcement agents and I've never witnessed them stop anyone.

There's a lot of talk about this being all about revenue, but I genuinely believe that the mayor, DOT, and other activists (e.g. Transportation Alternatives) have good intentions. If this was about revenue, they could have avoided the hassle of a new law and simply ticketed the endless stream of vehicles already exceeding the previous 30mph limit. The key to safer streets will be actual enforcement. Whether or not this will improve remains to be seen.

Likes2ridefar
11-08-2014, 09:14 PM
Commuting daily into Manhattan on motorcycle the way I see it is basically there's a small minority following the rules while the vast majority go as fast as they can in any given instant. Thankfully I don't ride much in the city streets, mostly the west side highway.

I think the 25mph is a big joke. Perhaps it needs time.

ByronApp
11-09-2014, 09:39 AM
Commuting daily into Manhattan on motorcycle the way I see it is basically there's a small minority following the rules while the vast majority go as fast as they can in any given instant. Thankfully I don't ride much in the city streets, mostly the west side highway.

I think the 25mph is a big joke. Perhaps it needs time.

Like anything else, it needs time. When coupled with the other measures the city is taking - redesigning high risk corridors, significantly increasing bike usage via the bike share program by 2017 - the 25mph limit will make a lot of sense.

johnmdesigner
11-09-2014, 10:08 AM
http://gothamist.com/2014/11/09/1_person_killed_2_others_injured_af.php

Last paragraph of this story is priceless.

johnmdesigner
11-09-2014, 10:22 AM
http://gothamist.com/2014/10/23/250_fine_for_suv_driver_who_deliber.php

If you missed this one. It's my favorite.
I'm sure someone's cousin is very happy having received the contract to make all these new signs.
The apple is rotten to the core.

leooooo
11-09-2014, 02:29 PM
Lowering limit to 25mph was stupid imo.

Should have just enforced the 30mph law.

Now we're just stuck with a lower limit for responsible drivers and morons flying down residential streets with the usual non-enforcement of moving violations.

johnmdesigner
11-09-2014, 05:02 PM
http://gothamist.com/2014/11/09/upstate_ny_cop_caught_on_camera_thr.php

Sorry just one more, couldn't resist. Not really relevant to NYC though.
So much low hanging fruit on the tree lately.

fuzzalow
11-09-2014, 06:14 PM
http://gothamist.com/2014/11/09/upstate_ny_cop_caught_on_camera_thr.php

Sorry just one more, couldn't resist. Not really relevant to NYC though.
So much low hanging fruit on the tree lately.

With a surname like his, it is no wonder that poor megalomaniacal schmuck has deluded himself into thinking he "is the law" rather than that his job is to "uphold the law".

CNY rider
11-09-2014, 06:17 PM
http://gothamist.com/2014/10/23/250_fine_for_suv_driver_who_deliber.php

If you missed this one. It's my favorite.
I'm sure someone's cousin is very happy having received the contract to make all these new signs.
The apple is rotten to the core.

If we can get a good Szechuan food joint up here are you ready to make the leap to country living?

johnmdesigner
11-09-2014, 07:16 PM
If we can get a good Szechuan food joint up here are you ready to make the leap to country living?

We had delicious tacos in the east village followed by red hot Thai shrimp sashimi. We then sat in Tompkins Square Park an absolutely peaceful place considering it's history. So yes, it's hard to leave. I see a spin bike in my future.