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oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 09:04 AM
Saw the group yesterday. New for 2015 bits nothing less than spectacular, ders and crank. Looked at back of levers and altho the spool looked different, all else looked like 2009-2014 UltraShift levers. Jim is going to upgrade a Moots to 2015 Chorus but also check the 2014 levers with 2015 ders and vice versa. Will report back. Although known for 'tradition' and such, this stuff just oozes tech, sophistication and race function, IMHO. 9000 is nice stuff but seems plasticy
by comparison, as does 6800 when compared to Chorus. I know comparison to to bike stuff always elicits scorn but Campagnolo SR/Record/Chorus seems very Italiano, shimano9000/6800 seems very Japanese. Yes yes I know.

IMHO of course.

FlashUNC
10-23-2014, 09:26 AM
Would a change to the spool change the pull ratio at all? Curious if that's how they're causing the supposed incompatibility with the earlier stuff.

AngryScientist
10-23-2014, 09:30 AM
i just installed 2015 chorus on my new marinoni. pics soon.

it's sweet!

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 09:30 AM
Would a change to the spool change the pull ratio at all? Curious if that's how they're causing the supposed incompatibility with the earlier stuff.

Changing diameter does change cable pull per shift but...report to follow

I think their point is for absolute best performance, match it but I'm thinking it's more cross compatible but...

Report to follow...

Jeff N.
10-23-2014, 10:06 AM
I'd heard all year that Campy was going to 12-Speed. Apparently that was just a bad rumor. -Jeff N.

bluesea
10-23-2014, 10:20 AM
I'd heard all year that Campy was going to 12-Speed. Apparently that was just a bad rumor. -Jeff N.


If that's what it takes to create a 12-27, with straight block to 19, I'm all for it.

Duende
10-23-2014, 10:37 AM
Saw the 2015 grupo in Rome last week at Lazaretti's bike shop. Also saw 11-29 chorus cassettes! (Almost bought one too!)

Cranks look beefy and pure business. The folks at the store hadn't tried them out yet so no reports to give. :(.

Considering I just bought a record grupo this year... It's gonna be awhile before I upgrade.

rhump
10-23-2014, 11:30 AM
i just installed 2015 chorus on my new marinoni. pics soon.

it's sweet!

Any chance you could let us know where you found a Chorus group at? I've been looking for awhile and all I've found is a crankset here and there.

Thanks,

Rob

Bob Ross
10-23-2014, 11:41 AM
Am I reading this correctly? No Compact or Semi-Compact SR crankset for 2015?!?!
http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Components/super_record_crankset

Lanternrouge
10-23-2014, 11:50 AM
Saw the group yesterday. New for 2015 bits nothing less than spectacular, ders and crank. Looked at back of levers and altho the spool looked different, all else looked like 2009-2014 UltraShift levers. Jim is going to upgrade a Moots to 2015 Chorus but also check the 2014 levers with 2015 ders and vice versa. Will report back. Although known for 'tradition' and such, this stuff just oozes tech, sophistication and race function, IMHO. 9000 is nice stuff but seems plasticy
by comparison, as does 6800 when compared to Chorus. I know comparison to to bike stuff always elicits scorn but Campagnolo SR/Record/Chorus seems very Italiano, shimano9000/6800 seems very Japanese. Yes yes I know.

IMHO of course.

I currently don't have anything Campy, but ATMO, it is sexier than Shimano and I still think the 9000 group looks pretty darn nice too.

bluesea
10-23-2014, 11:55 AM
Nor have I seen a Chorus EPS upgrade group. Record/Super Record, yes.

54ny77
10-23-2014, 11:56 AM
Fugly.

I'll be skipping yet another generation of Campy.

Have been wanting to buy in for years, but alas, no.

FlashUNC
10-23-2014, 11:59 AM
Am I reading this correctly? No Compact or Semi-Compact SR crankset for 2015?!?!
http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Components/super_record_crankset

Seems to the case from their listing, though with their universal crank design now similar to Shimano's, I'm sure you can just swap rings.

thirdgenbird
10-23-2014, 12:45 PM
i just installed 2015 chorus on my new marinoni. pics soon.

it's sweet!

So excited. I think it will look great.

I currently don't have anything Campy, but ATMO, it is sexier than Shimano and I still think the 9000 group looks pretty darn nice too.

Agreed. 7900 was a mess but 9000 looks pretty nice. I still think campy is better looking at every level however.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 01:37 PM
Fugly.

I'll be skipping yet another generation of Campy.

Have been wanting to buy in for years, but alas, no.

So I guess you'll be skipping current gen shimano too.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 01:39 PM
Am I reading this correctly? No Compact or Semi-Compact SR crankset for 2015?!?!
http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Components/super_record_crankset

No, standard, compact, mid compact, all one SR crank. Just a matter of ring selection.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 01:41 PM
Nor have I seen a Chorus EPS upgrade group. Record/Super Record, yes.

Not even November, you'll see Chorus EPS components soon,

FlashUNC
10-23-2014, 01:44 PM
No, standard, compact, mid compact, all one SR crank. Just a matter of ring selection.

I think Bob's point is that the other ring options are mentioned for the other cranks (Record, Chorus), whereas the Super Record doesn't. So is Campy only selling SR cranks with the standard rings? Would suck to have to buy the compact rings separate.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 01:53 PM
I think Bob's point is that the other ring options are mentioned for the other cranks (Record, Chorus), whereas the Super Record doesn't. So is Campy only selling SR cranks with the standard rings? Would suck to have to buy the compact rings separate.

I think the one I saw was compact but I'll check.

CRs are the same for all 3 cranks, I'd be surprised if they didn't offer the smaller one with SR.

pdmtong
10-23-2014, 02:32 PM
Put my mitts on 2015 chorus yesterday - it looks like carbon 9000

The RD is all business. Chunk of carbon!

The crank and rings and FD are very shimano-esque but as OP notes, the incarnation is very Italian.

The new hood covers felt really nice but I didn't care for the white campagnolo branding on the outside.

54ny77
10-23-2014, 03:13 PM
Yup. Equally not my cuppa tea.

I'm scouring the universe for NOS silver alloy parts by both manufacturers. As to 11, 12 or however many more speeds with carbon bits are yet to come--whatever. Don't care.

Now get off my lawn!

:p

So I guess you'll be skipping current gen shimano too.

jerrym
10-23-2014, 03:38 PM
I've been riding Campy components since 1960, except for a Dura Ace deviation in the late 1980's/early 1990's when Campy lost its' way. Back in the day, they were the only thing you could get that wasn't plastic, and I guess they hooked me. I didn't like their first carbon cranks, but other than that I love the looks of their components, including 2015. Sometimes I wish I were Italian!

Wakatel_Luum
10-23-2014, 04:28 PM
Yep if I had the funds I'd happily update all three of my Merlin's with 2015 Campagnolo...Chorus, Record & Super Record... :)

SPOKE
10-23-2014, 05:21 PM
Not even November, you'll see Chorus EPS components soon,

I've had a Chorus EPS group for about 2 months now. LBS got it from J&B Importers.

beeatnik
10-23-2014, 05:39 PM
It's spensive.

fuzzalow
10-23-2014, 06:15 PM
I've advanced nowhere on the aesthetics of 2015 Campagnolo cranks.

Campagnolo is all there is for me as far as cycling components so it looks likely I will sit out the first generation of the Valentino-X crankset. Heck, won't be the first time taking a pass on the cranksets for me either - skipped over the entire series of square-taper carbon cranks.

I bought one set of SR 2014 cranks just to have should I want to build up a new bike while the current grouppos still have the Valentino-X cranks. So I am covered for my crankset intransigence. NBD. Campy will redesign the crank again in the future and this too shall pass.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 07:05 PM
I've advanced nowhere on the aesthetics of 2015 Campagnolo cranks.

Campagnolo is all there is for me as far as cycling components so it looks likely I will sit out the first generation of the Valentino-X crankset. Heck, won't be the first time taking a pass on the cranksets for me either - skipped over the entire series of square-taper carbon cranks.

I bought one set of SR 2014 cranks just to have should I want to build up a new bike while the current grouppos still have the Valentino-X cranks. So I am covered for my crankset intransigence. NBD. Campy will redesign the crank again in the future and this too shall pass.

Lessee, 2014 hidden arm design from 1984....30 years so next one in.....add this....carry the.......2045.

54ny77
10-23-2014, 07:10 PM
If Campy made a top of line Super Record all alloy group I'd buy it tomorrow.

But alas, everything's al carbone.

No grazie.

sailorboy
10-23-2014, 07:13 PM
i just installed 2015 chorus on my new marinoni. pics soon.

it's sweet!

I guess this means you don't want to purchase my shimano wheelset? ;)

actually, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to resist the gravitational pull of campy calling me back as I decide how to re-build my Peg duende.

oldpotatoe
10-23-2014, 07:15 PM
If Campy made a top of line Super Record all alloy group I'd buy it tomorrow.

But alas, everything's al carbone.

No grazie.

9000 is all alloy except for brake lever blades so.....

thirdgenbird
10-23-2014, 07:15 PM
If Campy made a top of line Super Record all alloy group I'd buy it tomorrow.

But alas, everything's al carbone.

No grazie.

They basically did when Athena had ultra-torque and ultra shift. Besides a few ceramic bearings and ti bolts, it was an alloy version of SR.

fuzzalow
10-23-2014, 07:31 PM
Lessee, 2014 hidden arm design from 1984....30 years so next one in.....add this....carry the.......2045.

I laughed! As much as for the imagery of doin' the math with the idea of "carrying the one" as I remember how the nuns taught addition arithmetic in 1st grade. And that in adding 30 to 2015 there is no "carry the one"!! How'd you manage to get the right answer with that?!?!

All kidding aside, the 1st gen square-taper carbon cranks only lasted 5 or 6 years before the UT, and that was through 2 versions of the square-T carbon crank. Oh well, I'm patient and I'm gonna wait that sucka out.

sg8357
10-23-2014, 07:49 PM
The new cranks use the ever popular 145/112 bcd combo,
so 50/34,52/36 and 53/39 are the available combos.

No Jens Voight compatible 53/42, sigh.

Special old folks crank available from Sugino.

http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/road-1-2-3-4-5-6/sugino-ox901d-compact-plus-11spd.html

thirdgenbird
10-23-2014, 08:01 PM
Did m950 xtr use 145/112?

Not that it manners...

cassa
10-23-2014, 08:52 PM
Am I reading this correctly? No Compact or Semi-Compact SR crankset for 2015?!?!
http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Components/super_record_crankset
The catalog (http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/035_200_Catalogue_groups_Campagnolo_2015.pdf) shows 50/34 available in all the groups.

Bob Ross
10-24-2014, 05:47 AM
The catalog (http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/035_200_Catalogue_groups_Campagnolo_2015.pdf) shows 50/34 available in all the groups.

Yay! Thanks.

binxnyrwarrsoul
10-24-2014, 06:07 AM
If Campy made a top of line Super Record all alloy group I'd buy it tomorrow.

But alas, everything's al carbone.

No grazie.

So would I, even at retail :eek:.

Saw Chorus EPS, nice, but that crankset.....pass. Chatter is the '14 crankset is compatible.

oldpotatoe
10-24-2014, 06:17 AM
So would I, even at retail :eek:.

Saw Chorus EPS, nice, but that crankset.....pass. Chatter is the '14 crankset is compatible.

No chatter..the older crank, brakes, cogset, etc., is compatible with 2015 stuff. The ? is levers->ders..

Lionel
10-24-2014, 06:21 AM
No chatter..the older crank, brakes, cogset, etc., is compatible with 2015 stuff. The ? is levers->ders..

The UK campy rep tried it on WW. Does not work.

soulspinner
10-24-2014, 06:26 AM
Saw a euro store already selling 2015 Chorus with a comp crank. Lighter than the all Record setup and better looking too.........and less $ than all Chorus.....

elong8
10-24-2014, 09:22 AM
Campy is and always has been the ultimate in form and function. Nothing else compares. I'd ride 9 speed Veloce before I'd ride anything Shimano. Any. Thing.

binxnyrwarrsoul
10-24-2014, 09:25 AM
Campy is and always has been the ultimate in form and function. Nothing else compares. I'd ride 9 speed Veloce before I'd ride anything Shimano. Any. Thing.

Plus approximately one billion!

dana_e
10-24-2014, 09:34 AM
I just sold all my UT cranks, I have a carbo centaur square taper left over and pair of veloce silver and chorus carbo ten speed version ergos, old shape

If i bought a new group, 2015 Chorus for sure, with a 52-36

I am getting a Crux with SRAM Rival, selling if off and making it all Campagnolo!! Need a Rival group in excellent shape??

Waldo
10-24-2014, 03:17 PM
Any chance you could let us know where you found a Chorus group at? I've been looking for awhile and all I've found is a crankset here and there.

Thanks,

Rob

It's available at Bike24 (http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13&search=chorus+2015), which I've found reliable. Shipping is somewhat pricey, but you can subtract VAT from the list price, so it works out to a pretty good deal.

elong8
10-24-2014, 03:37 PM
Awesome! Thanks vlad.

jerrym
01-13-2015, 11:30 AM
Notice how Campy Super Record is getting less and less expensive? The whole group can be had now for under $2200. Is this because the dollar has been so strong recently?

thirdgenbird
01-13-2015, 12:21 PM
Notice how expensive red has become?

bfd
01-13-2015, 01:01 PM
Notice how expensive red has become?

Ribble:

- SR 11 $1924.24
- Red 22 $1385.94

Free shipping too!

thirdgenbird
01-13-2015, 01:42 PM
Ribble:

- SR 11 $1924.24
- Red 22 $1385.94

Free shipping too!

Some US retailers have red priced more than record and dura ace.