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thwart
10-10-2014, 06:38 PM
Okay, these are such great tires I thought I should post something about them.

The downsides of tubular tires:
They can flat, and then you're in some trouble.
They wear quickly.
They're expensive.
They're difficult to mount.
They lose lots of pressure in a short period of time… what a hassle, have to pump them up before every ride.

Well... these tires don't have at least four of the five outlined above.

You can pick them up for ~ $50-$55 per tire, they're tough, flat resistant and they wear slowly. The pictures below are after 400 miles of use, with lots of climbing out of the saddle (therefore much more wear on the rear tire). Top is the front, bottom the rear.

They have butyl tubes, so you can go at least 3 days before you have to top them off with your pump. In spite of that they (somehow) seem to ride just as smoothly as latex tube tires.

And they are super easy to mount, go on straight (even easier than other tires made by the same company). No fuss, no bother.

Oh, yeah. Get the 25's. :banana:

avalonracing
10-10-2014, 06:47 PM
I feel the same way about Vittoria Open CX clinchers. Best tires I've ever owned.

juanj
10-10-2014, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the report! How do these compare to the Open Corsa CX or SC, which go for about $70?

thwart
10-10-2014, 07:24 PM
Thanks for the report! How do these compare to the Open Corsa CX or SC, which go for about $70?

I've ridden both, but not a lot of miles on the SC's. Well, IMO the ride is awfully close in quality, and after you get in the first 25-50 miles of use, the grip seems about as good.

Wear rate is better, air pressure loss is dramatically better.

And they're easier to mount up and get straight on the rim than either of the other Vittoria tires.

rain dogs
10-10-2014, 07:39 PM
This thread :confused:

The Corsa elite is a tubular last time I looked. Does it make sense to compare it to the open corsa tire (either cx or sc)

There is no Open Corsa Elite is there? I don't think so.

I agree that Vittoria makes the tires that get my money. I'm out of the tubular game now, but the open corsa's are excellent.

LJohnny
10-10-2014, 07:45 PM
I have 4 of these coming, should be here early next week. I've heard a lot of good things about them in the past months.

buldogge
10-10-2014, 08:28 PM
I'm pretty sure Tom is comparing the Elite tubular to the Corsa CX and SC tubulars...FWIW.

-Mark in St. Louis

This thread :confused:

The Corsa elite is a tubular last time I looked. Does it make sense to compare it to the open corsa tire (either cx or sc)

There is no Open Corsa Elite is there? I don't think so.

I agree that Vittoria makes the tires that get my money. I'm out of the tubular game now, but the open corsa's are excellent.

Scuzzer
10-10-2014, 09:51 PM
I've only got 100 miles or so on the set I glued up last week but I really like them so far. Btw, I paid $38 each for them from Ribble with free shipping. In hindsight I should have ordered more than two but I was skeptical that a tubular priced so low would work so well.

teleguy57
10-10-2014, 10:14 PM
+1 to all the positive comments. If I don't look down, I have a hard time telling whether I'm on my Pave CGs or Corsa Elites -- both in 25mm. Thanks to OldPotatoe for being one of the first to call them out as a great tire, which helped me decide to give them a try. Now if they only came in a tan sidewall... :)

MattTuck
10-10-2014, 10:22 PM
The pictures below are after 400 miles of use, with lots of climbing out of the saddle (therefore much more wear on the rear tire).


This just made me laugh. I know what you're getting at, but all I could think of was the insinuation that you're laying down rubber every time you attack out of the saddle.

More seriously, at this price point, it actually seems reasonable to consider tubulars.

thwart
10-10-2014, 10:33 PM
… you're laying down rubber every time you attack out of the saddle.

Now that is funny.

Attack? I need to stand to climb just to get up the hill… :help:

cua90
10-11-2014, 06:40 AM
Do the Elites have the latex coating on the base tape?

nighthawk
10-11-2014, 07:04 AM
Thwart... Are those the tires I traded you for the Campy brifters? I rebuilt the right and have been getting lots of use out of 'em , so looks like a win-win trade. Enjoy the tires!

oldpotatoe
10-11-2014, 07:24 AM
Do the Elites have the latex coating on the base tape?

No. Don't think so..I'll check the new ones I have. Great tire, my now go to tire..290 TPI vs 320 of CX, butyl tube, hand made, great tire..25mm.

I have never taken anything off the base tape before gluing..just cleaned it with acetone.

thwart
10-11-2014, 08:56 AM
Do the Elites have the latex coating on the base tape?Mine did. Exactly the same as the CX's and SC's. A little solvent wipe (or like in the old days of Vittoria, abrade a bit with a butter knife, or something similar) before gluing up is recommended.

OP knows much more, but that's what I do…

Thwart... Are those the tires I traded you for the Campy brifters?
The very same. Glad to hear it worked out well both ways.

juanj
10-11-2014, 10:08 AM
I'll have to try them. My question was in ref. to the tubulars, which you figured out. Sorry for the confusion.

thwart
10-14-2014, 07:29 PM
Have to add here that these great tires are indeed still available for $38 each (yes, you read that right) from Ribble. And yes, they have 25's.

Free shipping if you buy a few… like yours truly.

Scuzzer
10-14-2014, 11:44 PM
still available for $38 each (yes, you read that right)

Helluva deal isn't it? In case anyone is wondering these (25c) measure 24.8mm pressurized to 90 psi, mounted and ridden for over two weeks.

LJohnny
10-15-2014, 03:37 PM
Just got the corsa elite in the mail. First thing I noticed was that there is no removable core. Luckily for me they just make it on the wheels.

oldpotatoe
10-15-2014, 03:50 PM
Just got the corsa elite in the mail. First thing I noticed was that there is no removable core. Luckily for me they just make it on the wheels.

hmmm, mine are.

LJohnny
10-15-2014, 03:59 PM
Oh wait. You are right, but on a second approximation it is still not obvious since they don't have the squarish tool appending part. How do you take them out?

oldpotatoe
10-15-2014, 04:00 PM
Oh wait. You are right, but on a second approximation it is still not obvious since they don't have the squarish tool appending part. How do you take them out?

Needle nose

LJohnny
10-15-2014, 04:02 PM
Needle nose on saddle bag. Multi-tool with pliers...

beeatnik
10-15-2014, 04:19 PM
+1 to all the positive comments. If I don't look down, I have a hard time telling whether I'm on my Pave CGs or Corsa Elites -- both in 25mm. Thanks to OldPotatoe for being one of the first to call them out as a great tire, which helped me decide to give them a try. Now if they only came in a tan sidewall... :)

Did you mount them on the Nucleons?

They are berry nice tires. And as thwart mentioned, the price makes them a no-brainer. First ride on them I sliced the front tire on construction debris and it didn't hurt 1% as much as losing a Corsa SC (with under 1000 miles) to sidewall rot a week later. I'm a cheap bastard.

teleguy57
10-15-2014, 08:18 PM
Just got the corsa elite in the mail. First thing I noticed was that there is no removable core. Luckily for me they just make it on the wheels.

Mine are removable... I carry one of these (http://www.notubes.com/Core-Remover-Tool-P350.aspx).
http://www.notubes.com/GetImage.ashx?Path=~%2fAssets%2fProductImages%2fAS 0015_Core_Remover_Packaged.jpg&maintainAspectRatio=true&maxHeight=550&maxWidth=550

Did you mount them on the Nucleons?

They are berry nice tires. And as thwart mentioned, the price makes them a no-brainer. First ride on them I sliced the front tire on construction debris and it didn't hurt 1% as much as losing a Corsa SC (with under 1000 miles) to sidewall rot a week later. I'm a cheap bastard.

As a matter of fact, I did:) Have Pave 24 tubs on my Nemesis, then got Pave 25 tubs on my next order and have those on my Bontrager D3 3 wheels. In theory the wider tubs would be on the Nemesis, but the glue job on the 24s is just fine so I left them on. Still thinking a tan sidewall tub will look better on the Bontragers, so I may just have to pop for Veloflex Roubaix as an upgrade over Vittoria SCs. Would be wonderful if the Corsa Elites came in tan, but for the price that's way too much to ask.

On cheap -- we're bros....

LJohnny
10-15-2014, 08:54 PM
Very well, that will do the job!

fogrider
10-16-2014, 01:50 AM
Have to add here that these great tires are indeed still available for $38 each (yes, you read that right) from Ribble. And yes, they have 25's.

Free shipping if you buy a few… like yours truly.

funny thing, it was 46 bucks when it was being shipped to the UK, I only changed the currency to $US...when I changed the destination to the US, the price changed to $38 bucks!

I had given up on vitttoria after they moved all of their production to Thailand... the ride was still good, but the tires were either wearing out quickly or I was getting flats from big cuts. I'm willing to give it another try.

fogrider
10-18-2014, 01:42 AM
they are now running a sale...enter 'stock13' and get 13% off...thats three tires for 101 bucks and free shipping!

Bantamben
10-18-2014, 11:16 AM
I've been riding the elites as well and honestly they feel the same as the corsa cx. They are slightly heavier. But unless your building a bike to start a weight weenies thread it's not worth it.
I bought mine at ribble for like 37 a piece in 25mm

I put sealant in mine too and swear by riding tubulars as everyday.
I used to ride continentals which are good but a pain in the axx to put on.

stackie
10-18-2014, 11:57 AM
I just went to Ribble site and the drop down box for destination does not show USA. Price stays at $46 for other destinations.

Anyone else see this?

I'd like to stock up on tires as I am down to my last two tubies.

Jon

LJohnny
10-18-2014, 12:06 PM
Are you on a mobile while browsing? Sometimes on a mobile you can't scroll on that little menu to show USA



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

stackie
10-18-2014, 01:51 PM
Nope,

iMac using Safari. I will try chrome.

Jon

edit. Didn't work with Chrome either. I think I'm going to put in Canada and just use my USA address.

AgilisMerlin
10-18-2014, 02:01 PM
my iPhone has a mind of its own // these days

vittoria - nice tires

thwart
10-20-2014, 08:52 PM
Always a pleasure to get home and see this waiting…

:banana::banana::banana:

juanj
10-29-2014, 09:08 AM
I put sealant in mine too and swear by riding tubulars as everyday.
I used to ride continentals which are good but a pain in the axx to put on.

What sealant are you using? Anyone else using sealant on their Elites?

oldpotatoe
10-30-2014, 08:06 AM
What sealant are you using? Anyone else using sealant on their Elites?

I use OrangeSeal...

juanj
10-30-2014, 09:39 AM
I use OrangeSeal...

Great, thanks.

LJohnny
10-30-2014, 01:28 PM
anyone use the Effeto Mariposa cafe Latex? I used to have the portable little can, but I have misplaced it. Need to get a replacement...