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sparky33
09-29-2014, 09:15 AM
For cyclocross tubulars, do you glue or glue+tape?

I'm relatively new to cx tubs and had to I replace a tire that was glue+taped. What a royal pain to remove and clean-up!!! I curse that tape.
I'm thinking I could get away with a cross specific rim like a Major Tom and a few layers of glue - no tape. I'm not huge, and I'm racing a just few times a season.
From what I can tell adding tape is really just for building up a rim bed that is not ideally shaped for a wide tubular. Am I crazy?

BSUdude
09-29-2014, 09:32 AM
I use glue only. Have yet to roll a tire in 3 years. Probably will this weekend after saying this.

illuminaught
09-29-2014, 09:32 AM
I just use glue. Three dry layers on both rim and base tape... Then one wet bonding layer when mounting.

bcroslin
09-29-2014, 09:36 AM
Glue but if you really don't want your tires to come off use tape as well.

Don't do what I've seen a few people do and just use the tape. I have no idea where that idea came from but boy does it not work.

nooneline
09-29-2014, 10:41 AM
Glue only. If it's good enough for Stybar...

crankles
09-29-2014, 10:42 AM
CX... Glue + tape.

trust me, if you ride aggressively and run sub 30 psi at times, tape is your friend.

oldpotatoe
09-29-2014, 12:31 PM
I just use glue. Three dry layers on both rim and base tape... Then one wet bonding layer when mounting.

Glue only just like above.

FGC
09-29-2014, 12:59 PM
Glue only. I regularly run below 30psi and haven't rolled a tire.

PoppaWheelie
09-29-2014, 02:04 PM
I just glue. But my go-to OCD oxygen-depraved mid-race distraction is always focused on rolling a tire. I may go back to tape just to take that off the menu.

brando
09-29-2014, 02:49 PM
glue + tape and I do it myself. Let a shop glue once and rolled on the first ride. Never again!

Brian Cdn
09-29-2014, 04:25 PM
I just use glue. Three dry layers on both rim and base tape... Then one wet bonding layer when mounting.

Before there was tape, there was ... Glue
Ditto on the above.. it works !

Dr Luxurious
09-29-2014, 04:35 PM
Before there was tape, there was ... Glue
Ditto on the above.. it works !

yep. glue only.
usually 3m fast tack. been using it for road, track, cross, wheelchairs, shoes, floorwax, dessert topping for 20+ years for my stuff and at the shop. had wheels in TdF, Olympics, US & Can national champs, track worlds, pro kerin in Japan, cross natz, 100s of CX races, blah, blah... no problems. it's so good it's now illegal in kalifornia.

EDIT - BUT THINK TWICE ABOUT USING IT WITH CONTIS!! it seems to make conti base tape de-lam more quickly.
(thanks to jc031699 for reminding me.)

crankles
09-29-2014, 06:00 PM
It's true, glue works. However, I've seen more f-up glue jobs than f-up'ed tape jobs ( although folks manage that too).

I can also tape em friday night race and race em saturday morning.
Takes me a several days to do a proper glue only job.

gavingould
09-29-2014, 06:14 PM
Glue only. I'm a fat guy too... Two 20mph washouts yesterday did nothing to the glue job. My knee and ribs, that's another story.

BSUdude
09-29-2014, 06:29 PM
I might add that I was ripping on 21.5 and 22.5 psi yesterday on my tubulars which I glued (last year!) on the same course as gavingould. No tape required. I wouldn't trust a shop to glue my tubulars unless I knew that they knew the type of riding I was doing. My LBS does mostly campus bike repairs. No way would I let them glue tubies for me. Do it yourself. Then you know how its done. If you F it up, you only have yourself to blame and you can learn from your mistakes. Plenty of info here and other places online to learn how to glue yourself.

ChrisG
09-29-2014, 07:01 PM
One way or the other, it's really about the thought that goes into the job.

A proper job with glue-only was plenty good for a long time before tape arrived.

zacstanley
10-07-2014, 09:25 PM
+1 for Tape and Glue