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NickR
09-28-2014, 10:32 PM
I don’t ride that often with a group on Saturday morning due to my wife’s work schedule. I made the exception this past Saturday for a Breast Cancer awareness ride. On the return trip on the bike path, the pace line was forming about 30 riders. I was somewhere in the middle of the pack, when my handlebars drop and steering got hairy. I keep the bike under control and was able to move to the side of the path with out injury.

[img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3914/15200838230_6b78caafcc_o.jpg

thirdgenbird
09-28-2014, 10:36 PM
Props to keeping it up and keeping others safe.

Threaded to threadless adaptor broken at the shoulder?

illuminaught
09-28-2014, 10:49 PM
Wow. Glad you're okay. Scary!
I snapped a carbon fork and didn't notice until I got home... Makes you a bit nervous...

Louis
09-28-2014, 10:54 PM
Threaded to threadless adaptor broken at the shoulder?

That's also what I was thinking.

Nick, what's (or should I say what was :( ) your setup?

NickR
09-28-2014, 10:57 PM
Yes broke at the shoulder where the size transitions. My previous ride had a 15 mile decent avg 30+ mph :eek:

Louis
09-28-2014, 11:07 PM
Picking up on the Zipp front hub failure thread, IMO the single most important safety characteristic of failure-critical bike components is that they have graceful failure properties. Stuff that goes "BAM" and is gone is bad. Stuff that gives you enough time to slow down and get off to the side is good. You can't always design for that, but when you can it's always nice to have.

fogrider
09-29-2014, 12:26 AM
I don’t ride that often with a group on Saturday morning due to my wife’s work schedule. I made the exception this past Saturday for a Breast Cancer awareness ride. On the return trip on the bike path, the pace line was forming about 30 riders. I was somewhere in the middle of the pack, when my handlebars drop and steering got hairy. I keep the bike under control and was able to move to the side of the path with out injury.

[img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3914/15200838230_6b78caafcc_o.jpg

Wow, why all the little spacers?

DRietz
09-29-2014, 01:33 AM
Wow, why all the little spacers?

It's an easy way to deal with a steerer that's too long. Rather than cut down the threaded steerer and then deal with refinishing what would then be the leading thread, just add spacers beneath the nut and above the preloading race.

BLD 25
09-29-2014, 05:42 AM
Whoa scary!

Peter P.
09-29-2014, 06:05 AM
So the threaded steerer didn't fail, the threadless adapter did, am I right?

oldpotatoe
09-29-2014, 06:23 AM
Yes broke at the shoulder where the size transitions. My previous ride had a 15 mile decent avg 30+ mph :eek:

Brand of threadless adapter?

NickR
09-29-2014, 09:48 AM
That's also what I was thinking.

Nick, what's (or should I say what was :( ) your setup? This was on my Serotta, running Thomson stem with Ritchey Classic bars

Picking up on the Zipp front hub failure thread, IMO the single most important safety characteristic of failure-critical bike components is that they have graceful failure properties. Stuff that goes "BAM" and is gone is bad. Stuff that gives you enough time to slow down and get off to the side is good. You can't always design for that, but when you can it's always nice to have. I agree, you should be able to walk away from a part failure, instead of a trip to the hospital.

It's an easy way to deal with a steerer that's too long. Rather than cut down the threaded steerer and then deal with refinishing what would then be the leading thread, just add spacers beneath the nut and above the preloading race. What he said.

So the threaded steerer didn't fail, the threadless adapter did, am I right? Yes the threadless adapter failed.

Brand of threadless adapter? Can't tell, the markings are Taiwan 22.2 JC

[img]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15205177430_9357e652fe_c.jpg

ultraman6970
09-29-2014, 10:11 AM
I used a cheappo adapter once and are way too flimsy... you have to go to a good one like a nitto, those weight a lot but wont go nowhere.

Good you are ok.

rwsaunders
09-29-2014, 10:55 AM
Back to a quill stem for you, sir. Just go for one of the Nitto units that can extend if you're worried about height, such as the Technomic Deluxe.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-2499-nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem.aspx

DRietz
09-29-2014, 11:28 AM
Back to a quill stem for you, sir. Just go for one of the Nitto units that can extend if you're worried about height, such as the Technomic Deluxe.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-2499-nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem.aspx

He's probably more worried about using a modern, OS bar.

buldogge
09-29-2014, 03:36 PM
That's a crappy machining transition...also, is that chromed steel?

-Mark in St. Louis

F150
09-29-2014, 04:02 PM
back to a quill stem for you, sir. Just go for one of the nitto units that can extend if you're worried about height, such as the technomic deluxe.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-2499-nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem.aspx

+1

NickR
09-30-2014, 03:43 PM
That's a crappy machining transition...also, is that chromed steel?

-Mark in St. Louis
Yes the transition is crappy, the bolt sits on it. Instead like the other designs on top of it and it's aluminum.

torquer
10-01-2014, 10:24 AM
On the return trip on the bike path, the pace line was forming about 30 riders.
This could have ended bad(ly) too, ATMO.
Glad both worked out OK, in any case.

bobswire
10-01-2014, 11:14 AM
I had a nitto adapter that was pretty neat. https://www.benscycle.com/p-2509-nitto-mtc-02-quill-stem-to-theadless-adapter-286254mm.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwzK6hBRCbzLz_r_f-3tkBEiQA-zyWsMmhTrxptpuFgMfuHIhNsgSe6LWUTHOjCdYaRgPRH3UaAq9 x8P8HAQ

Black Dog
10-02-2014, 10:50 AM
Well, the fixing bolt saved the day by preventing the steerer from separating from the bars.

p nut
10-02-2014, 10:57 AM
Wonder how long it had been cracked? Time for a thorough inspection on all of my bikes...