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Grant McLean
03-08-2006, 05:23 PM
All this shimano talk reminded me of something.

Sometimes it's just best to admit you messed up,
and move on. For some people it takes like 10 years before
they finally get it.

-g

Too Tall
03-08-2006, 05:32 PM
Dude! Those old pedals are soooo nice are you kidding me? I borrowed a set for racing at T town track and have not looked back. Very fine bearings and heavy release.

Grant McLean
03-08-2006, 05:37 PM
Dude! Those old pedals are soooo nice are you kidding me? I borrowed a set for racing at T town track and have not looked back. Very fine bearings and heavy release.


That's what i'm saying! They had the great Look pedal. Messed it up by
going SPD - messed it again with SPD-R - and finally fixed it with the SL
which is basically back where they were with the 7400 pedal, just now
lighter. It took ten years to get back to what they already had.

-g

Louis
03-08-2006, 05:43 PM
So you're saying that if I don't worry that much about weight I can stick with my Looks?

fiamme red
03-08-2006, 05:43 PM
That's what i'm saying! They had the great Look pedal. Messed it up by going SPD - messed it again with SPD-R - and finally fixed it with the SL which is basically back where they were with the 7400 pedal, just now lighter. It took ten years to get back to what they already had.

-gThe old Dura-Ace Look-compatible pedals were the first clipless I ever used. I had Look cleats, and I had to step down very forcefully to click in. But otherwise, they were good pedals.

gdw
03-08-2006, 05:58 PM
Like Shimano 9 speed mountain drivetrains? 8 speed was much more reliable and required less maintenance but Shimano wouldn't go back. Who really needs a mountain bike which functions well under adverse conditions? Dual control shifters and rapid rise rear derailleurs are what we really should be using. Too bad Sram listened to the marketplace and perfected a reliable 9 speed system with those old school trigger shifters which Shimano decided we no longer needed.

97CSI
03-08-2006, 06:04 PM
DA SPD are great pedals. Won't have Shimano on my bikes except for these pedals. But, the Mg/Ti models from Performance are only 200g and work just as well, so use them instead. One of the advantages of a smaller foot. No hot-spot with the smallish SPD. Tried Record and Keo. Neither work as well. SPD rules.

Argos
03-08-2006, 06:09 PM
I get what you are saying exactly..... We had this.....

http://www.velomech.ch/images/parts/shimano500ex-biopacekurbel.jpg

messed around with round, and are now back to this.....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/tech/julich_csc_carbon/IMG_0324.jpg

:rolleyes:

No, I get you though. Couldn't help that.. :D

David Kirk
03-08-2006, 06:26 PM
Anyone remember the Campy SRG pedals (at least I think that's what they were called)? They were some of the worst high ends things ever concieved.

Dave

Grant McLean
03-08-2006, 06:40 PM
I get what you are saying exactly..... We had this.....

http://www.velomech.ch/images/parts/shimano500ex-biopacekurbel.jpg

messed around with round, and are now back to this.....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/tech/julich_csc_carbon/IMG_0324.jpg

:rolleyes:

No, I get you though. Couldn't help that.. :D


good one!

-g

Argos
03-08-2006, 06:42 PM
These?

http://www.cycle-yoshida.com/parts/pedal/sgx.jpg

David Kirk
03-08-2006, 06:46 PM
These?

http://www.cycle-yoshida.com/parts/pedal/sgx.jpg

You the man!..........those are indeed the disfunctional boat anchors I was thinking of.

I remember when they were first imported Campy sent them sans cleats and you got to buy them at an extra cost. As bad as that is the US importer didn't know this and didn't order cleats.

That worked out well.

Dave

nobrakes
03-08-2006, 11:22 PM
You the man!..........those are indeed the disfunctional boat anchors I was thinking of.

I remember when they were first imported Campy sent them sans cleats and you got to buy them at an extra cost. As bad as that is the US importer didn't know this and didn't order cleats.

That worked out well.

Dave

But the bearings were SMOOTH!

William
03-09-2006, 04:23 AM
But the bearings were SMOOTH!

....and only $110.95 each. Sweeeeeeet! :rolleyes:




William ;)

stevep
03-09-2006, 06:05 AM
i have never made any mistake of any kind.
george w bush

Too Tall
03-09-2006, 06:13 AM
Now now Steve...sandbox rules m'kay?
Grant right you are :)
Good thread. What else can we think of?

stevep
03-09-2006, 06:43 AM
delta brakes,
syncro 1 and 2
sampson clipless pedals

sspielman
03-09-2006, 06:45 AM
After years of attempting to impose a new "standard" in pedals with the ill-conceived SPD series, Shimano finally had to do better. The instructions to the engineering staff must have been something like, "We want it to appear and function like the old Look licensed design....but it MUST NOT be compatible with the Look cleat...."

OldDog
03-09-2006, 08:32 AM
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guyintense
03-09-2006, 09:32 AM
Scott self energizing brakes. Even with the smallest amount of front brake going into a corner they would self energize you right into the ground.

72gmc
03-09-2006, 12:25 PM
Scott self energizing brakes. Even with the smallest amount of front brake going into a corner they would self energize you right into the ground.

My old Scott mtb is now in my dad's garage so he can ride it around, pink splatter decals and all. Not sure if the brakes are Scott branded but they're black cantis with a very large pivot point and I recall them being marketed as super-powerful. Rode it in the driveway the other week and I'd forgotten how powerful they are... good for spiking the heart rate. Funny I didn't notice them on anyone's bikes after that model year.

nobrakes
03-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Several years ago I bought a pair of Time shoes based on the positive revues of the cycling press only to have my feet suffer unimaginally from the flexy sole and odd fit. I should have just stuck with the Sidi's I've always used and found the most comfortable, instead of trying to save money (this purchase was made in protest to Sidi's huge price increase that year), and believing the hype. Shoe fit is subjective and personal, but sometimes I can be swayed by someone else's glowing testimony.

csm
03-09-2006, 04:58 PM
I made a mistake once. I thought I was wrong about something. turns out I was right.
does that count?

wasfast
03-09-2006, 09:12 PM
I get what you are saying exactly..... We had this.....

http://www.velomech.ch/images/parts/shimano500ex-biopacekurbel.jpg

messed around with round, and are now back to this.....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/tech/julich_csc_carbon/IMG_0324.jpg

:rolleyes:

No, I get you though. Couldn't help that.. :D



One key difference is that the timing of where the "high" sections occur is very different between the Biopace and the "Julich" rings. True that eliptical rings aren't new but the concept seems at least reasonable on the new version.