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A1CKot
08-30-2014, 06:30 PM
Can't fine any geometry numbers.

http://schillerbikes.com/buy

dustyrider
08-30-2014, 06:33 PM
Can it be used on the road? If not, it's not a bicycle; it's a boat.

thirdgenbird
08-30-2014, 06:44 PM
Can it be used on the road? If not, it's not a bicycle; it's a boat.

I disagree. It' not a bicycle because it doesn't have two wheels. Unicycles and tricycles are not bicycles either. You could theoretically make a bicycle for the water if you had tires large enough to stay buoyant, but this example is a boat because of the hull.

Louis
08-30-2014, 06:59 PM
If you want to exercise and go fast on the water you use something like this:

http://www.2xu.co.nz/files/blog_images/197__pic1.jpg

A1CKot
08-30-2014, 07:04 PM
But it says it can fit on most bike racks and it uses so many bicycle parts it must be a bicycle...;) I think its a silly idea. Just ran across it while killing time and thought I share it.

dustyrider
08-30-2014, 08:16 PM
But it says it can fit on most bike racks and it uses so many bicycle parts it must be a bicycle...;) I think its a silly idea. Just ran across it while killing time and thought I share it.

Oh it's cool! I want to use it on the river, but the used market has to pick up first!
I feel like a bicycle has to be able to move out of the water. Certainly some type of accessory could change it into a boat besides tires. A boat that you pedal is first and foremost a pedalboat.

christian
08-30-2014, 08:19 PM
Come on, it's awesome.

dustyrider
08-30-2014, 08:20 PM
If you want to exercise and go fast on the water you use something like this:


I was so envious of these when I kayaked.

Netdewt
08-30-2014, 08:26 PM
I don't like the tall-ness of it, on a boat.

I totally want a pedal powered fast boat. These seem like the best thing out there. I'd love to DIY one.

Open Water Cycling "Cadence"
http://outyourbackdoor.com/Images/HP.boats.pics/Cadence.jpg

dustyrider
08-30-2014, 08:31 PM
Come on, it's awesome.

DHriver biking. Do it! The Colorado in March/April would be bad-a.

ceolwulf
08-30-2014, 08:34 PM
Pontoons really?

A hydrofoil is what you want.

http://youtu.be/RaYhyeGxYoA

http://www.human-powered-hydrofoils.com/files/9012/8938/2957/SilverSwan_2554_x_459.jpg

dustyrider
08-30-2014, 08:34 PM
I don't like the tall-ness of it, on a boat.

I totally want a pedal powered fast boat. These seem like the best thing out there. I'd love to DIY one.

Open Water Cycling "Cadence"

The open water adventure boat for cyclists.
Why have I never seen one of these? It's perfect. A little longer in the back and you could put a bike rack on there.

Louis
08-30-2014, 08:56 PM
I will say, those "bike-based" systems do have one advantage over the racing shells - you can see where you're going.

Netdewt
08-30-2014, 09:31 PM
Pontoons really?

A hydrofoil is what you want.

http://youtu.be/RaYhyeGxYoA

http://www.human-powered-hydrofoils.com/files/9012/8938/2957/SilverSwan_2554_x_459.jpg

What a silly looking contraption...

I will say, those "bike-based" systems do have one advantage over the racing shells - you can see where you're going.

And I'm betting probably handle waves better, turn easier, more transportable, hands are more usable, and use same muscle groups as cycling.

54ny77
08-30-2014, 09:39 PM
i think it's awesome.

this past year we spent some time in southwest florida and i'd LOVE to have something like this cruising thru canals or even out on charlotte harbor.

Louis
08-30-2014, 09:47 PM
and use same muscle groups as cycling.

True, but if one really wants to use those, then ride a bike. The benefit of rowing is that it's a way more complete exercise than cycling.

If I were given the choice between the body of a world-class cyclist and a world-class rower, I'd take rowing any day.

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/skeletor1.jpg

http://www.christophermorris.com/gallery/large/rower-1.jpg

pbarry
08-30-2014, 10:05 PM
We've covered this before with a post about an SFBay pedal powered bike/boat.

Netdewt
08-30-2014, 10:14 PM
True, but if one really wants to use those, then ride a bike. The benefit of rowing is that it's a way more complete exercise than cycling.

If I were given the choice between the body of a world-class cyclist and a world-class rower, I'd take rowing any day.


Well sure, but I'm not world class anything. I'd be a much stronger pedaler than rower. I don't like rowing. Plus, gears and propellers. Nerd alert.

Louis
08-30-2014, 10:22 PM
I agree that cycling is a much more "practical" exercise than on-the-water rowing. But on the water or on the erg, it's a h3ll of a workout.

batman1425
08-30-2014, 11:23 PM
If I were given the choice between the body of a world-class cyclist and a world-class rower, I'd take rowing any day.


If you saw the hands of most rowers you might change your mind.

Louis
08-31-2014, 12:03 AM
Not, mine, but I'm sure he wears the calluses as a badge of honor.

Actually, the only real damage the erg has done to me (aggravated by shoveling too much snow) is a bad right elbow, that took over a year to heal.

When I was doing it fairly frequently, I did build up a few minor calluses, but not a whole lot, probably because I've never been a hard-core rower.

http://www.carlosdinares.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/blisters.jpg

ultraman6970
08-31-2014, 08:08 AM
As winter training those water bike things looks awesome. Wonder if they will work ok in rivers.

Scooper
08-31-2014, 09:00 AM
From what I've read over the past few months, Schiller's concept originated as a way to commute across bodies of water (like San Francisco Bay) without driving across a bridge or taking a ferry. Commuters aren't doing it just for exercise and don't want to get sprayed with salt water or work up a sweat; they just want a way to get from Oakland to San Francisco on their own schedule and under their own power without getting soaked. The Bay Bridge doesn't have a bike lane yet, so this is a pretty cool option ATMO.

Steve in SLO
08-31-2014, 10:05 AM
The first hydrofoil was ridden in 1983 by a professor of mine at USC medical school. His name is Alan Abbott, and he gave a great introductory lecture that I remember to this day.
Below are two YouTube videos showing his first try, which was impressively primitive, and the second is his second hydrofoil two years later. Much improved.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_3pqPRWTc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKSeRikfZeY

Scooper
08-31-2014, 12:27 PM
The first hydrofoil was ridden in 1983 by a professor of mine at USC medical school. His name is Alan Abbott, and he gave a great introductory lecture that I remember to this day.
Below are two YouTube videos showing his first try, which was impressively primitive, and the second is his second hydrofoil two years later. Much improved.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_3pqPRWTc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKSeRikfZeY

Wow! 11.3 mph.

Steve in SLO
08-31-2014, 02:13 PM
Wow! 11.3 mph.

It looks like the current top speed record is 22.49 mph over 100 m flying distance.