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bcroslin
08-25-2014, 09:54 PM
Is there an easy way to replicate cleat position on different shoes? I'm switching from Fizik R3's to Shimano 270's and I'm dreading the next 4 or 5 rides because even though I've tried to match the cleat position on the old shoes I know it won't be right on the new ones.

Louis
08-25-2014, 09:59 PM
Measure the shoes - are they about the same length? And is the widest section about in the same position relative to the front or back?

If so, it's much easier to put the cleat in the same longitudinal position. I've found that lateral position isn't that big a deal, because the distances are smaller, so it's tough to mess up too much. I've had the most trouble duplicating angle, but depending on your type of pedal and cleat that may not be a big deal.

eddief
08-25-2014, 10:22 PM
a bunch o rides with the hex wrench in your back pocket. Buy two pairs of the same model shoes at the same time and then you won't have to worry about for 4 years or so.

CunegoFan
08-25-2014, 10:22 PM
[EDIT] Whoops. Not applicable.

Louis
08-25-2014, 10:24 PM
Fixed !

bcroslin
08-26-2014, 06:04 AM
a bunch o rides with the hex wrench in your back pocket. Buy two pairs of the same model shoes at the same time and then you won't have to worry about for 4 years or so.

That's what I'll be doing this morning. Sigh.

dogdriver
08-26-2014, 06:26 AM
I'm no expert, but I've had good luck over the years marking the ball of the foot on both old and new shoes and doing the fore-aft measurements from there. Pretty easy to get close, but don't forget the hex wrench on your next couple rides...

93legendti
08-26-2014, 07:04 AM
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=130783&highlight=cleat+position

DarkStar
08-26-2014, 08:55 AM
Timely, just about to setup new road shoes but hesitating, uncertain about cleat positioning after ten years exclusive use of MTB shoes. Run into knee issues previous attempt setting up road shoes.:banana:

bcroslin
08-26-2014, 09:33 AM
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=130783&highlight=cleat+position

From the Park Tool page (http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/recording-position-road) referenced in the thread:

Q: Shoes

Record shoe size, make, and model. It is also useful to record user preference of either a fixed or floating type of cleat. The cleat position on the sole may also be recorded.

Rotation: Engage shoes on pedals, without rider. Hold shoe parallel to crank. Measure distance from crank bolt to center of shoe sole. If the pedal has adjustable float, hold sole in middle of float range. If cleat has float, hold sole toward crank.

http://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/position37.jpg

Fore-Aft: Record cleat fore-aft position on sole by measuring from tip of sole to cleat.

http://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/position34.jpg

ergott
08-26-2014, 09:33 AM
Working with the location of your feet within the shoe is best. This video will get you closer than any other method I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvmY7fuKVq4

regularguy412
08-26-2014, 09:35 PM
From the Park Tool page (http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/recording-position-road) referenced in the thread:

Q: Shoes

Record shoe size, make, and model. It is also useful to record user preference of either a fixed or floating type of cleat. The cleat position on the sole may also be recorded.

Rotation: Engage shoes on pedals, without rider. Hold shoe parallel to crank. Measure distance from crank bolt to center of shoe sole. If the pedal has adjustable float, hold sole in middle of float range. If cleat has float, hold sole toward crank.

http://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/position37.jpg

Fore-Aft: Record cleat fore-aft position on sole by measuring from tip of sole to cleat.

http://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/position34.jpg


I saw those shoes and wondered if you were still wearing them! I have a pair from 1989. My pair had studs holding the cleat with cap nuts on the cleat locking the cleat to the shoe. I've not seen a pair with actual screw holes to fasten the cleat to the shoe. But they were the first pair of 'carbon' shoes I ever saw and owned.

As far as the cleat settings on different shoes: I put my 'current' shoe/cleat setup on the linoleum floor with the toe of the shoe touching the doorfacing -- heel sticking out perpendicular to the facing. I then measured the distance from the facing to the 'effective' center of the cleat. Most all cleats have the center-point (place where the cleat is centered over the axle of the pedal) marked on it in some way. You can then put the cleat on your 'new' shoe and measure the same way. Then use the pix above to get the 'angle' of the foot to pedal set. Using these two methods, you should at least get 'close' to where you need to be. You should note that two different brands of shoe may have the screw holes in slightly different placements, so you may necessarily have to not match your previous settings EXACTLY.

Mike in AR:beer:

Charles M
08-27-2014, 01:29 PM
Best way for me : http://www.d2shoe.com/cleatplacement.php


http://www.d2shoe.com/home/images/IMG_2861.jpg


It takes the measure from the heel point of the shoe (so changing styles is not an issue when the sole shape changes). And it keeps the distance and angle for placement.