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LegendRider
08-19-2014, 04:21 PM
I just got back from Sweden where I saw a lot of people roller skiing and it looks like fun. I'm intrigued. Anyone do it on a regular basis? Is it good training?

fiamme red
08-19-2014, 04:23 PM
I just got back from Sweden where I saw a lot of people roller skiing and it looks like fun. I'm intrigued. Anyone do it on a regular basis? Is it good training?It's good training for cross-country skiing if you don't have snow. :)

TBLS
08-19-2014, 04:27 PM
Excellent training if you can find good tarmac with limited traffic. Best to work on your double poling (I have the skate roller ski's)

Safety equipment mandatory!

Best deal for starting is roller ski shop in mn. If you are a 45 and need boots ping me

David Kirk
08-19-2014, 06:01 PM
I road ski some in the fall is snow is late in coming. I like it.

Come fall here we get groups of skiers doing laps in my suburban neighborhood getting preseason hours in and some of them are beautiful to watch.

dave

christian
08-19-2014, 06:21 PM
Preface this by saying... I'm Swedish.

Yeah, I rollerski. Classic, not skate. As TBLS says, best for double poling, as it's easy to develop a late kick otherwise. I'm training for Vasaloppet/Öppet Spår in 2016 and we don't have enough snow here to xc regularly, so it is one way to stay fit.

I like it. Flat, traffic-free, tarmac is pretty critical. Have any MUPs by you?

donevwil
08-19-2014, 06:37 PM
Preface this by saying... I'm Swedish.

Yeah, I rollerski. Classic, not skate. As TBLS says, best for double poling, as it's easy to develop a late kick otherwise. I'm training for Vasaloppet/Öppet Spår in 2016 and we don't have enough snow here to xc regularly, so it is one way to stay fit.

I like it. Flat, traffic-free, tarmac is pretty critical. Have any MUPs by you?

Last year while cycling it the Italian Alps I passed a man and a woman roller skiing up the Gavia. How is that possible ? Needless to say they were super-fit.

iml
08-19-2014, 06:39 PM
I live for XC skiing as much as riding, so yes, I roller ski. We can typically ski until May or June, and I tend to let about a month pass before getting on roller skis. When I get them out in late June or so, it's just once or twice a week until September, just to stay in touch with it, before increasing frequency and volume in the fall. I mostly put them away from the first snow in November, as I don't really like going back and forth between skis and roller skis.

But that's about me, and not really beneficial to you. I tend to think roller skiing is for skiers, and that learning to ski on snow should really come first. Roller skis aren't to be trifled with, and the majority of enthusiast skiers don't bother with it. Check it out if you're inspired, but be careful and aware that it's typically something that comes well after someone gains some competency in the real thing.

LegendRider
08-19-2014, 06:40 PM
Preface this by saying... I'm Swedish.

Yeah, I rollerski. Classic, not skate. As TBLS says, best for double poling, as it's easy to develop a late kick otherwise. I'm training for Vasaloppet/Öppet Spår in 2016 and we don't have enough snow here to xc regularly, so it is one way to stay fit.

I like it. Flat, traffic-free, tarmac is pretty critical. Have any MUPs by you?

There are definitely a number of decent MUPs nearby (rails-to-trails) that would be good for skate skiing.

BTW - I saw the skiers all over Ostersund.

tiretrax
08-19-2014, 06:41 PM
Last year while cycling it the Italian Alps I passed a man and a woman roller skiing up the Gavia.

Better that you passed them rather than the opposite.

donevwil
08-19-2014, 06:49 PM
Better that you passed them rather than the opposite.

It took a while.

Surprisingly they loaded into a car after reaching the top and drove down.

iml
08-19-2014, 06:56 PM
Roller skis and long descents don't mix. Most don't have brakes. I'll sometimes cajole my wife in to picking me up at the top of a local 15-ish km climb.

christian
08-19-2014, 06:58 PM
BTW - I saw the skiers all over Ostersund.What the heck were you doing there? I am from about an hour away.

krhea
08-19-2014, 07:48 PM
Roller skis and long descents don't mix. Most don't have brakes. I'll sometimes cajole my wife in to picking me up at the top of a local 15-ish km climb.

What 15k climb are you roller skiing in or around Stumptown? Do you ever 'ski" Fairmount Blvd? Great loop for the roller skis.

iml
08-19-2014, 09:26 PM
Larch. I don't often ski the loop, but some do. The circuit race loop at Tabor is good, as is Springwater, of course.

krhea
08-19-2014, 10:24 PM
Larch. I don't often ski the loop, but some do. The circuit race loop at Tabor is good, as is Springwater, of course.

Larch, gotcha. I always think of that as a 14mile climb starting at the Women's Forum "fork".

You're a better/fitter man then I am, no Larch on roller skis for me!

iml
08-19-2014, 10:34 PM
When rolling it I'll start from about the point the climb becomes more or less uninterrupted. 15 k or a bit more from where I start, I think. And that's skating, so perhaps not as bad/hard as classic double poling. I don't need that kind of hill for classic DP.

teleguy57
08-20-2014, 07:19 AM
I tend to think roller skiing is for skiers, and that learning to ski on snow should really come first. Roller skis aren't to be trifled with, and the majority of enthusiast skiers don't bother with it. Check it out if you're inspired, but be careful and aware that it's typically something that comes well after someone gains some competency in the real thing.

This.

Nordic skiing is a niche sport, and roller skiing is a niche portion of that. Back in the late 70s-early 80s when I was a competitive nordic racer chaser I roller skiied a lot on what's now pretty crude equipment. Biking for me was a means to training for skiing.

But while roller skiing looks fun (and it is) it's more a training tool than a sport in and of itself, and because of the nature of the activity there are some inherent risks involved.

If you want to train for skiing there are lots of drllls/activities that translate well to on-snow skills; roller skiing is the pinnacle of that, although as others have noted, it can mess with your technique.

Wow, sounds like I'm saying "get off my lawn" :) If it really calls to you, go for it, but understand where you're taking it.

LegendRider
08-20-2014, 07:21 AM
This.

Nordic skiing is a niche sport, and roller skiing is a niche portion of that. Back in the late 70s-early 80s when I was a competitive nordic racer chaser I roller skiied a lot on what's now pretty crude equipment. Biking for me was a means to training for skiing.

But while roller skiing looks fun (and it is) it's more a training tool than a sport in and of itself, and because of the nature of the activity there are some inherent risks involved.

If you want to train for skiing there are lots of drllls/activities that translate well to on-snow skills; roller skiing is the pinnacle of that, although as others have noted, it can mess with your technique.

Wow, sounds like I'm saying "get off my lawn" :) If it really calls to you, go for it, but understand where you're taking it.

I live in Georgia, so training for cross country skiing is not the objective. :p I simply thought it looked graceful and fun.

christian
08-20-2014, 08:18 AM
But while roller skiing looks fun (and it is) it's more a training tool than a sport in and of itself, and because of the nature of the activity there are some inherent risks involved.I'm going to agree and disagree. There's no doubt that roller skiing is primarily a training tool for xc racers in the US. But roller ski racing as its own discipline has really taken off in Scandinavia in the last ten years. And lots of people who don't have ready access to snow have started doing it for fun. I count myself in the latter group. When I get tired of cycling, I go for a trail run. When I don't feel like trail running, I clip into on my roller skis. And it's a nice activity for September/October/November for warming up for winter season.

teleguy57
08-20-2014, 10:12 AM
I'm going to agree and disagree. There's no doubt that roller skiing is primarily a training tool for xc racers in the US. But roller ski racing as its own discipline has really taken off in Scandinavia in the last ten years. And lots of people who don't have ready access to snow have started doing it for fun. I count myself in the latter group. When I get tired of cycling, I go for a trail run. When I don't feel like trail running, I clip into on my roller skis. And it's a nice activity for September/October/November for warming up for winter season.

Point well taken. Lots of cool YouTube vids on roller ski racing in Europe, and I know there are some races here in the US. You've gotten me thinking maybe I should get back into the roller ski world, Christian. I'm sure my wife would be thrilled to have me add more toys to the toybox. :)

cp43
08-20-2014, 10:22 AM
I have to ask, how do you stop on roller skis?

It seems like a fun activity/sport, and a great preseason training tool for XC skiing, but I'd be terrified to strap into roller skis on a public road without being able to stop quickly. I see people on them around here fairly frequently, and I don't think I'd be able to do it. Too many rolling hills that I'd be afraid of getting too much speed on.

Chris

christian
08-20-2014, 10:26 AM
I have to ask, how do you stop on roller skis? Friction/bearing drag or hitting a solid object. Some skis have speed reducers.

cp43
08-20-2014, 10:32 AM
Friction/bearing drag or hitting a solid object. Some skis have speed reducers.

This is what I thought. In that case, I'm going to stay off of roller skis.

To those of you who do use them, I wish you happy and safe skiing :beer:

Chris

teleguy57
08-20-2014, 11:19 AM
Friction/bearing drag or hitting a solid object. Some skis have speed reducers.

I thought you'd surely be the guy who can gracefully telemark into a soft stop :)