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Jason E
07-20-2014, 05:04 PM
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DA9000. Thankfully it happened in the garage on the way out and not in the middle of nowhere. I had a spare and it only delayed me 20 min.

Never had this happen before.


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John H.
07-20-2014, 05:07 PM
9000?
You should warranty them and get a set of 9001 shifters.
It will keep happening.

Jason E
07-20-2014, 05:11 PM
Is it 9000/9001 related?


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FlashUNC
07-20-2014, 05:13 PM
Yes. 9000 already has a reputation for eating cables.

Jason E
07-20-2014, 05:16 PM
So if I go to a shop they should be able to assist me with a claim? This was the right on my firefly. I did replace the left on my Madone.


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John H.
07-20-2014, 05:16 PM
Yes, me and all my 9000 riding cohorts have warrantied all of our shifters for 9001.
Shimano will absolutely warranty these. But they will also claim that they have not seen this issue.

Jason E
07-20-2014, 07:05 PM
Shimano will absolutely warranty these. But they will also claim that they have not seen this issue.


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oldpotatoe
07-21-2014, 08:33 AM
Yes, me and all my 9000 riding cohorts have warrantied all of our shifters for 9001.
Shimano will absolutely warranty these. But they will also claim that they have not seen this issue.

9001 was specific to broken cable end issue. The eagerness for them to warranty confirms this. If the shop is on decent terms with shimano, they may send a new lever w/o seeing the old one.

saab2000
07-21-2014, 09:12 AM
My opinion, which is worthless, is that they should just pay Campagnolo the patent licensing fee. I have read somewhere that Campagnolo owns a patent for superior cable routing and they have fewer of these issues.

I wouldn't be the first time that a company had paid to use a patented technology of a competitor. Campagnolo did this for threadless headsets and also to Shimano for their ramped cogs in the 1990s if I'm not mistaken.

Shimano never produced threadless headsets but you know they would have been good if they had. I heard they just didn't want to pay the licensing fee.

Anyway, this is all stuff I've heard over the years. I like my 9000 group set I have on one of my bikes.

Lionel
07-21-2014, 09:21 AM
make sure you carry a spare cable:)

saab2000
07-21-2014, 09:23 AM
make sure you carry a spare cable:)

Spare bike. Off the following car. And a push to get you back up to speed. And maybe an extended water bottle handup too.

ergott
07-21-2014, 09:26 AM
Do the Shimano R785s have this problem?:)

oldpotatoe
07-21-2014, 09:31 AM
My opinion, which is worthless, is that they should just pay Campagnolo the patent licensing fee. I have read somewhere that Campagnolo owns a patent for superior cable routing and they have fewer of these issues.

I wouldn't be the first time that a company had paid to use a patented technology of a competitor. Campagnolo did this for threadless headsets and also to Shimano for their ramped cogs in the 1990s if I'm not mistaken.

Shimano never produced threadless headsets but you know they would have been good if they had. I heard they just didn't want to pay the licensing fee.

Anyway, this is all stuff I've heard over the years. I like my 9000 group set I have on one of my bikes.

I doubt it. 7900 levers have almost the same routing as ERGO right down to the Delrin ramps. 9000 a lot different from anything prior.

sailorboy
07-21-2014, 10:29 AM
So back to the OP;

Was there any warning about this? i.e. poor or weird shifting behavior leading up to the complete snap?

Jason E
07-29-2014, 12:37 PM
UPDATE..

First, Sailor, no warning. I was in my kit and was shifting to an easier gear in my garage on the stand to then go for a ride and it was non responsive. Perfect to zero real quick.

The dealer I got the bike it is on from called Shimano. They are claiming that 9000 to 9001 was nothing more than a cosmetic change and that is installer issue, oh and by the way make sure you use Shimano shift grease on the last inch of cable.. Pretty much BS. There are threads all over the interweb showing the pin placement changes and talking about this issue.

The kid from the shop did not push back too hard and called me to tell me they were sending out a cable set and that that was the issue. I asked him to make another call. He's a good guy, so he's trying. Just not a high pressure phone guy.

grrrr.

Peter P.
07-29-2014, 06:33 PM
I just broke the cable on my front Shimano indexing bar end shifter this past Saturday. Couldn't tell you how old it was. Presumably broke right at the lead anchor because it's not in the hole.