Help me understand Quill Stems

[Lugger]

I'm building up a Bridgestone RB-1 and would like to maintain the look of the original Nitto setup for the stem and handlebars. But I'm left scratching my head over my stem options. :confused:

I can't find a stem that provides the amount of rise I want for my desired seat to handlebar drop. I'd like to stay with a stem with a 72 degree angle, but maybe I'll have to compromise. I guess the issue is that the 54cm RB-1 has a short headtube (13cm).

Here's what I have:
Nitto Technomic - Min insertion to top of stem is about 150mm. This is a very long stem so if I push the stem all the way down and then bring it back up a skinch to make sure the clamp has a good grip, I have about 13cm exposed to the top of the stem. I'm trying to get this to about 10cm.

Here are my options (both too short):
Nitto Dynamic - Min insertion to top of quill is 78mm
Nitto Pearl - Min insertion to top of quill is 83mm

So the question are: Is there a quill stem out there that will give me a min insertion to top length of about 100mm? Why would there be such a large gap between the Technomic and the other two Nitto stems?

Thanks to all!

[stephenmarklay]

I don't think I can help you but I do have a pearl 110 in the classifieds and I also have one on my RB-1 if I can help in any way.

[christian]

You want the Technomic Deluxe (dlx). It splits the difference between a Technomic and the Pearl and has a nicer finish than the stock Technomic.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-2499-nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem.aspx

[John H.]

I remember the RB1 coming as a complete bike with a welded Ritchey chromoly stem. It was a -6 degree.
Salsa also made a +5 tig welded chromoly stem. I always thought that they looked great on quill stem bikes.

[christian]

Other buying option: http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1141/Nitto-Technomic-Deluxe-190/Detail

And a nice picture here: http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/nitto-technomic-deluxe-26-0mm

[John H.]

RB1 came with something like this- but not a WCS. Force pre-dated WCS.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ritchey-WCS-Force-Road-1-in-Quill-110mm-80-deg-26-0-/261531511837?pt=US_Stems&hash=item3ce47e2c1d
Description calls it 80 degree.
This is the Salsa.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salsa-quill-stem-1-26mm-clamp-125mm-5-rise-/291188386707?pt=US_Stems&hash=item43cc2e2b93

[Wilkinson4]

Well shoot. I just posted a WTB… Nitto Dynamic 2 stem is a 90d stem and what you are looking for:) Well, it's what I am looking for! Not sure if you really want that rise but it will get the bars up for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dynamic-2-Quill-Stem-26-0mm-90-Degree-Drop-All-Sizes-/201087089188?pt=US_Stems&var=&hash=item2ed1b97a24



mIKE

[eddief]

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/quill-stems.html

[svelocity]

Funny I've been researching similar quill stems.

The options I've found are the Nitto technomic deluxe mentioned by Christian and the Grand Compe ENE.

Cheers!

[EricEstlund]

I may be reading this incorrectly, but it sounds like you have 13cm above the headset, and want 10cm (as in, a lower bar position). Is there something preventing you from pushing the stem down 3cm (like butting in the steerer)?

[bobswire]

Soma Sutro is another longer quill stem, not quite as long as Technomic.
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/sutro-quill-stem


This is a Soma Sutro I have on one of my bikes,it also comes in silver.

http://i58.tinypic.com/sl2ypz.jpg

[Lugger]

I may be reading this incorrectly, but it sounds like you have 13cm above the headset, and want 10cm (as in, a lower bar position). Is there something preventing you from pushing the stem down 3cm (like butting in the steerer)?


Yeah, my head tube is pretty short so I can't insert the technomic any further.

[Lugger]

You want the Technomic Deluxe (dlx). It splits the difference between a Technomic and the Pearl and has a nicer finish than the stock Technomic.




The technomic deluxe looks like the winner. In further searching I also stumbled across the Nitto Lugged stem (if I decide to get crazy).

Thanks!

[christian]

The Nitto lugged stem is a useful anchor.

[merckx]

If you do decide to go crazy, do it with Winter. It will be aesthetically and geometrically perfect.

[palincss]

I'm building up a Bridgestone RB-1 and would like to maintain the look of the original Nitto setup for the stem and handlebars. But I'm left scratching my head over my stem options. :confused:

I can't find a stem that provides the amount of rise I want for my desired seat to handlebar drop. I'd like to stay with a stem with a 72 degree angle, but maybe I'll have to compromise. I guess the issue is that the 54cm RB-1 has a short headtube (13cm).

Here's what I have:
Nitto Technomic - Min insertion to top of stem is about 150mm. This is a very long stem so if I push the stem all the way down and then bring it back up a skinch to make sure the clamp has a good grip, I have about 13cm exposed to the top of the stem. I'm trying to get this to about 10cm.

Here are my options (both too short):
Nitto Dynamic - Min insertion to top of quill is 78mm
Nitto Pearl - Min insertion to top of quill is 83mm

So the question are: Is there a quill stem out there that will give me a min insertion to top length of about 100mm? Why would there be such a large gap between the Technomic and the other two Nitto stems?

Thanks to all!

You haven't mentioned the Technomic Deluxe, which in fact is the one you want.

[Lugger]

If you do decide to go crazy, do it with Winter.

Insert sound of homer simpson drooling here. "mmmmmmm....lugged stems......gurgle, gurgle, gurgle."

Thanks for posting that. I wasn't aware of that builder. Beautiful stuff!!!!!!.

[nbl78s]

I'd never heard of Winter either but after checking out their page I'm in love :) they kick out some beautiful stuff!