View Full Version : Rubberized coating on helmets?
sandyrs
06-04-2014, 08:23 AM
I recall seeing a thread about this, but can't find it, so if anyone can point me to it that would be much appreciated!
I have a helmet (Casco Speed Airo) to which I would like to apply a matte black thin rubberized coating. I've seen this done before on other helmets, so I know it's possible, but I don't know how I would do it or where I would take the helmet to get the work done. Does anyone have any experience doing this sort of treatment?
Thanks!
Also, if there's a reason this is a bad idea and I shouldn't do it, I'm all ears. I can repaint the helmet pretty easily, just thought I would change things up a bit.
Nooch
06-04-2014, 08:32 AM
I'm gonna say, if you can plasti-dip a car, you can plasti-dip a helmet...
http://www.plastidip.com/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/artixtn/2012-04-21_08-32-11_615.jpg
Mark McM
06-04-2014, 10:07 AM
I'm no helmet expert, but this sounds like a bad idea. Helmets are typically meant to slide on surfaces they hit. If the helmet has a grippy surface, it could stick to a surface it hits, possibly creating a torque about the head, and increasing the chance of a neck injury.
There's already some evidence that helmets may increase the chances of neck injuries. I wouldn't put a grippy coating on a helmet to increase those chances further.
mhespenheide
06-04-2014, 10:15 AM
I am not a lawyer nor an engineer, but...
To echo MarkM, I think that's a bad idea. Possibly a remarkably bad idea. I don't think you want to increase the coefficient of friction between the road (or other impact surface) and the helmet. Much better to slide across a surface than potentially create a torque that twists your neck.
I'd stay away from it.
ShaneAtSilca
06-04-2014, 10:20 AM
I second and third these guys. Seems like there is potential that this would be going the wrong way from a safety standpoint.
christian
06-04-2014, 10:56 AM
Plasti-dip isn't that grabby. I think it's fine. Good idea for Livestrong helmets, for instance!
Most helmet manufacturers tell you not to put even stickers on your helmet because they can damage the plastic or foam. The way helmets are designed, it only takes a tiny amount of deterioration or damage for the integrated structure to lose a lot of protective capability.
On the track we've done a lot of work looking at helmets and how they cause neck injuries versus allowing you to slide. Mostly it's been about helmet shape but I suppose a rubber dip could add to the problem. Mostly I ask, ... why? It adds weight too, where you really feel it.
I wouldn't do it. There are parts of me that are in serious need of rubber dipping, so my helmet just wouldn't get the priority.
I sprayed bedliner on a plastic kayak to make it more durable and slide easily on barnacled covered rocks. After getting caught and slammed then held against the side of a cliff the only thing that survived was the bedliner : )
https://plus.google.com/photos/107709068384636814318/albums/5544277317785532305
Bradford
06-04-2014, 11:10 AM
If you go back to the early 90's, there was a transition from lycra covered helmets to plastic covered helmets, the Giro Hammerhead was the first I remembered. I was a poor gradute student and had a lycra covered helmet, and I wasn't going to buy a new lid unless it was worth it, so I looked into the reason for the change.
The reason, I was told from multiple sources, was that in accidents that involved sliding, the friction from the lycra was grabbing the ground and snapping people's necks.
I don't know if that was 1 in a million, 1 in 100, or just plain made up marketing mumbo jumbo, but I bought a new helmet. You get to decide what risk level you are comfortable with, but I'd just buy a new helmet if I were you.
saf-t
06-04-2014, 04:19 PM
Bedliner material is harder than my plastic kayak. I'd imagine that a rubberized coating would be way softer than a typical helmet shell.
I wouldn't do it.
I sprayed bedliner on a plastic kayak to make it more durable and slide easily on barnacled covered rocks. After getting caught and slammed then held against the side of a cliff the only thing that survived was the bedliner : )
https://plus.google.com/photos/107709068384636814318/albums/5544277317785532305
SpokeValley
06-04-2014, 04:49 PM
I'm no expert nor am I an engineer but, like others here, I don't see how this would be any good in a fall. After all, if it was some kind of competitive advantage, someone would have done it and brought it to market.
Companies (like MIPS http://mipshelmet.com/how-it-works/Video-page) have designed helmets that reduce the friction from impacts to help prevent brain injuries. I think adding an essentially "non-slip" coating defeats the hard shell purpose.
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