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foo_fighter
05-04-2014, 11:59 AM
Does anyone have a good source for zip ties? I'm looking for the thin kind that usually come with bike computers. Whenever I try to find them, they are only available in 4" lengths which is not enough to get around every tube.
Thanks!
54ny77
05-04-2014, 12:05 PM
home depot electrical section. they have tons, and cheap. or your nearest electrician's supply house (if they sell to public).
Tony T
05-04-2014, 12:09 PM
Search Cable Ties (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_10?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=cable+ties&sprefix=cable+ties%2Caps%2C217) at Amazon
foo_fighter
05-04-2014, 12:23 PM
Okay, after some sleuthing, they are called "miniature cable ties." I'm pretty sure you can't them them in the longer lengths at Home Depot, Lowe's, OSH, or even electronic specialty stores like Fry's.
Mine actually measure 0.09 inches. These are 0.1 inches so that's close enough. Mainly the wide ones don't fit though the slots of some magnets or cadence/wheel sensors and are more conspicuous.
Here are some links:
http://www.securecableties.com/8-inch-black-miniature-nylon-cable-tie-100-pack
http://www.amazon.com/Inch-Black-Miniature-Nylon-Cable/dp/B004FV2LF2/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1399223872&sr=1-13&keywords=miniature+cable+ties#productDetails
54ny77
05-04-2014, 12:26 PM
thanks for that cabletie link. sounds like those will fit your needs....unless you only ride in alaska during winter and with a tandy trs-80 computer mounted to your stem. :p
" -40°F to 185°F and can support a maximum weight of 18lbs. "
zmudshark
05-04-2014, 12:31 PM
Harbor Freight $2/100
http://www.harborfreight.com/100-piece-8-black-cable-ties-60263.html
The ones you want are made by Thomas & Betts, come in all sizes, in translucent white and black and probably other colors as well. The particular model has a very high breaking strength and a very tiny head because the actual latching lever is made from stainless steel. It means the grooving on the strap part itself is rather subtle. The edges are smoothed and rounded, as is the head, so you don't have snags or have unnecessary dirt collecting. Breaking strength is something like 70 lbs -- 3-4 times what the basic plastic ones test out at.
You have to go to an electrical supply for them, or you can usually find them on Amazon or eBay. They are so much more subtle than the cheap ones and work so much better, there's no reason to use anything else. A package will last you forever. I usually just buy the 11 inch ones because they are thin enough to fit practically anything including hydraulic cable mounting saddles.
tigoat
05-04-2014, 05:56 PM
You may use two together to double up if they are too short.
dogdriver
05-04-2014, 06:17 PM
Yep-- HD, Lowe's, Harbor Freight, etc all have the pleasure pack of zip ties for cheap. As I recall, you can choose between black, clear-ish, or an assortment of colors. Cheap enough that what you buy will be a lifetime supply unless you run a bike shop.
PaulE
05-04-2014, 07:58 PM
Someone posted this a while back and I bookmarked it, but haven't had an opportunity to buy anything from them yet.
http://www.cableties.com/
enr1co
05-04-2014, 10:17 PM
Search Cable Ties (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_10?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=cable+ties&sprefix=cable+ties%2Caps%2C217) at Amazon
Avoid this Amazon reseller/source:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFKK8VA/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cheap but you get what you pay for. Used a few and they were so brittle they snapped before barely a snug cinch.
grailedmund
05-04-2014, 10:36 PM
home depot should be good
54ny77
05-04-2014, 10:46 PM
for whatever it's worth, something specific from an electrical supply house or home depot (from a reputable electrical supply company) might have a better shot at lasting outdoors, via uv degradation, weather, etc., than cheap junk ordered online.
but, that's a maybe. who the heck knows. i can only speak from experience, as i've got coax cables zip tied together from the roof down to the splitters at certain points. they've survived a handful of nasty winter/summer cycles without incident.
Davist
05-05-2014, 04:47 AM
As above, the ones you want are from Thomas and Betts, my employer, who invented them. We have all kinds of sizes and colors, and we sell through the big box home improvement centers. Look for the oval head, smooth back (not sawtooth which creates weak points) and steel barb. The "natural" whitish color is not UV resistant. The colors are UV resistant and weight rated. They're UL listed if that matters, too (those with electrical shifting maybe!) The brand name is Ty-rap. :)
54ny77
05-05-2014, 06:51 AM
Cool! I will look for your company's stuff and get some. I need some more for a few specific outdoor use projects. Thanks for the heads-up on the white being non-UV.
As above, the ones you want are from Thomas and Betts, my employer, who invented them. We have all kinds of sizes and colors, and we sell through the big box home improvement centers. Look for the oval head, smooth back (not sawtooth which creates weak points) and steel barb. The "natural" whitish color is not UV resistant. The colors are UV resistant and weight rated. They're UL listed if that matters, too (those with electrical shifting maybe!) The brand name is Ty-rap. :)
torquer
05-05-2014, 11:41 AM
Not sure if the answer to the OP's question is in here, but this is one of my all-time favorite threads on this forum:
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=123156&highlight=zip+ties
(Yeah, I'm funny that way. 3 pages, 36 replies. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back here.)
foo_fighter
05-05-2014, 07:32 PM
wow...epic. Learned a lot.
Not sure if the answer to the OP's question is in here, but this is one of my all-time favorite threads on this forum:
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=123156&highlight=zip+ties
(Yeah, I'm funny that way. 3 pages, 36 replies. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back here.)
Wilkinson4
05-05-2014, 07:36 PM
http://www.fastenal.com/web/home
mIKE
wow...epic.
Why are you all ragging on a thread about zip ties? There's a thread on this subject every year or two. It's an IMPORTANT subject! You learned something important from this thread, right, and saved yourself from a long ride home without the continuous flow of data from your GSC-10 speed and cadence sensor? What do you think is important around here? Really! Jeez! Don't you recognize what's really important in cycling, and thus in life? Try harder, folks! (Let's get to 50 posts!)
54ny77
05-05-2014, 11:19 PM
http://ziptieguy.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/zip-tie-room-art.jpg?w=640&h=392&crop=1
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Louis
05-05-2014, 11:23 PM
McMaster-Carr Link Here (http://www.mcmaster.com/#)
Greatest catalog EVER bar none, including bike catalogs. Massively informative and they have nearly everything you could ever want, other than bike-specific stuff.
If you don't enjoy just flipping through this you aren't qualified to even think about doing bike maintenance, or nearly any other type of real work with your head or your hands.
http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mcmaster-carr.jpg
54ny77
05-05-2014, 11:39 PM
http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents/gfx/large/2701t36p1l.png?ver=27514816
http://www.mcmaster.com/#cycles/=rubhui
McMaster-Carr Link Here (http://www.mcmaster.com/#)
Greatest catalog EVER bar none, including bike catalogs. Massively informative and they have nearly everything you could ever want, other than bike-specific stuff.
If you don't enjoy just flipping through this you aren't qualified to even think about doing bike maintenance, or nearly any other type of real work with your head or your hands.
http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mcmaster-carr.jpg
That's talkin'!
So here's a reward for all you zip tie fetishists!
http://www.itstactical.com/intellicom/tradecraft/how-to-escape-from-zip-ties/
Louis
05-05-2014, 11:45 PM
http://www.mcmaster.com/#cycles/=rubhui
OK, so they really do have everything. (Except the types of bikes those Lycra-wearing wimps tend to ride.)
Louis
05-05-2014, 11:51 PM
That's talkin'!
So here's a reward for all you zip tie fetishists!
http://www.itstactical.com/intellicom/tradecraft/how-to-escape-from-zip-ties/
Can the links to deviantart.com be far behind? ;)
54ny77
05-06-2014, 12:04 AM
http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac113/mahimama/new/1073_zpsaef13993.jpg
Louis
05-06-2014, 12:06 AM
And proud of it, because otherwise they would have used white ties!
Louis
05-06-2014, 12:08 AM
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Louis
05-06-2014, 12:09 AM
http://www.bikehacks.com/.a/6a0120a7ed5f9d970b013489655114970c-pi
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXBHkb8Eu0Dbp3q2Vl7e2hUZ4fZfi1T KTj9lkktjsGygLn5Xw23Q
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http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2008/06/13/CYP211.workshop.cabletie_prev-300-70.jpg
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